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Really Don't know where to go from here.

Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2016 8:41 pm
by New_Spice180
I'm not sure what's going on but I've scored the worst out of all my time of studying...It's completely demoralizing and all I can is think about how horribly I scored on my LR section, it's as though I have no desire to see my books anymore. I don't know where to go on from here, so I came to TLS to search from some guidance...A about a month away from December and I don't know if I can keep going...

Re: Really Don't know where to go from here.

Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2016 8:43 pm
by ml2srosie
Why law school?

Re: Really Don't know where to go from here.

Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2016 8:58 pm
by New_Spice180
ml2srosie wrote:Why law school?
It's been a childhood dream of mine. Ever since I was a kid, I can remember watching a show on Fox about plea bargains and I told myself I'd be the one to give people like that an opportunity for a just, fair trial. I've developed on that and met with so many lawyers during my time as an undergrad, I've only been more passionate about the whole gig. I guess I know what it takes to become a lawyer but this LSAT gig is hard, I've been studying for almost a year now and I'm trying to get the score I need to maximize my possibilities. I know some will say "but you don't need a 90+ percentile score", sure but I don't aim to be mediocre, I aim to be the best I can be in what I do.

All in all I don't know if it's burn out( being that I took a three day break) or I'm nervous or whatever, but I'm just at a loss right now, I want improvement, I've worked so hard, and I keep getting lashed every time...

Re: Really Don't know where to go from here.

Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2016 9:00 pm
by studyingeveryday
was september your first or second time taking the lsat? sorry about your score :(

Re: Really Don't know where to go from here.

Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2016 9:12 pm
by New_Spice180
studyingeveryday wrote:was september your first or second time taking the lsat? sorry about your score :(
Haha no no I didn't take in September! My last take was in February actually, but I've been prepping for quite some time now! Thanks for the sentiment. I know, it may seem over dramatic but I don't know where else to turn in this dark moment. It's really a test of strong I want this goal right now. I know, with a month left I can see reasonable improvement, but there's always a "what if I don't" tick going on in the back of my head. After scoring my LR section today, I don't even have the motivation to finish my full review.

I guess my best bet is to recalibrate and keep going...!

Re: Really Don't know where to go from here.

Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2016 9:48 pm
by Vino.Veritas
New_Spice180 wrote:
studyingeveryday wrote:was september your first or second time taking the lsat? sorry about your score :(
Haha no no I didn't take in September! My last take was in February actually, but I've been prepping for quite some time now! Thanks for the sentiment. I know, it may seem over dramatic but I don't know where else to turn in this dark moment. It's really a test of strong I want this goal right now. I know, with a month left I can see reasonable improvement, but there's always a "what if I don't" tick going on in the back of my head. After scoring my LR section today, I don't even have the motivation to finish my full review.

I guess my best bet is to recalibrate and keep going...!
Redo a section that you ROCKED to get back on track. Remind yourself that if you don't try again, that will be worse than failing a second time. At least if you failed a second time you can be at peace with the knowledge that you tried your best.

Re: Really Don't know where to go from here.

Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2016 10:17 pm
by btruj777
It seems like this "low score" was in a PT. And if you are on TLS you are as hardcore as anyone here, because you care so much about what you do ROCK ON. BUT THAT INTENSITY COMES AT A PRICE


While it sounds like BS right now, BURNOUT IS VERY REAL I stood in your shoes many times. Look I am not the HIGHEST SCORER OUT THERE but improvement is what we are tracking for this purpose.


My first test ever was a 150. There was a season in my studies where I was climbing fast, 160, 163, 164, 166, 167, 167 etc etc then one dreadful weekend came.

Sat and sunday, 153, 153, I could vomit both days, I was outraged and upset, demoralized and in pain, with EXACTLY 1 MONTH LEFT. I called everyone I knew for support. The best tip came from my pastor, who is an incredibly well read and educated man as it happens.



He called it like it was, BURNOUT! He told me that I need to let the information sink in and to let my brain store it properly and strongly encouraged me to take a few days off, to go watch a movie and abstain from LSAT (seriously not even 1 LR) for some time. It seemed like BS, but it was my last move.

My very next PT, back in the flow, 167, 168, etc.....


But from there I never pushed it as hard as I did before the WEEKEND FROM HELL (153) in fear of another burnout.


It sounds nuts, but go watch a movie, buy new shoes, spend money else where, dont think of LSAT or law school. PLEASE you will do yourself a favor.


This is a standardized test, you can always repeat the same results and improve, but only after a diagnostic. I hate to say this but your body is much like a machine, some times you gotta reset it and let it cool down.


RELAX, GO SHOPPING, TAKE A DAY, AND THENNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN "KEEP GOING"

You will overcome, but only when you let your body and brain take their time to let this info get recorded in its long term memory lol DONT OVER DO IT

Re: Really Don't know where to go from here.

Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2016 10:38 pm
by Instrumental
Yo, I just shit the bed on my September test. It's a real kick in the groin. After venting some, I signed up for December, ordered my final PT book, and set up my calendar to schedule out my final month and a half of study. You've got to look at that test as just another PT because that's all it will be worth once you take this next test.

Re: Really Don't know where to go from here.

Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2016 1:26 am
by Csta5315
btruj777 wrote:It seems like this "low score" was in a PT. And if you are on TLS you are as hardcore as anyone here, because you care so much about what you do ROCK ON. BUT THAT INTENSITY COMES AT A PRICE


While it sounds like BS right now, BURNOUT IS VERY REAL I stood in your shoes many times. Look I am not the HIGHEST SCORER OUT THERE but improvement is what we are tracking for this purpose.


My first test ever was a 150. There was a season in my studies where I was climbing fast, 160, 163, 164, 166, 167, 167 etc etc then one dreadful weekend came.

Sat and sunday, 153, 153, I could vomit both days, I was outraged and upset, demoralized and in pain, with EXACTLY 1 MONTH LEFT. I called everyone I knew for support. The best tip came from my pastor, who is an incredibly well read and educated man as it happens.



He called it like it was, BURNOUT! He told me that I need to let the information sink in and to let my brain store it properly and strongly encouraged me to take a few days off, to go watch a movie and abstain from LSAT (seriously not even 1 LR) for some time. It seemed like BS, but it was my last move.

My very next PT, back in the flow, 167, 168, etc.....


But from there I never pushed it as hard as I did before the WEEKEND FROM HELL (153) in fear of another burnout.


It sounds nuts, but go watch a movie, buy new shoes, spend money else where, dont think of LSAT or law school. PLEASE you will do yourself a favor.


This is a standardized test, you can always repeat the same results and improve, but only after a diagnostic. I hate to say this but your body is much like a machine, some times you gotta reset it and let it cool down.


RELAX, GO SHOPPING, TAKE A DAY, AND THENNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN "KEEP GOING"

You will overcome, but only when you let your body and brain take their time to let this info get recorded in its long term memory lol DONT OVER DO IT

This is AMAZING advice! I too went through a similar experience last week. I kept practice testing and scoring at a 160, 162, 162, 167, and then got a 153 and a 155. I was mortified, and to top it off, I attended a Columbia law school info session the day after scoring a 155 which was very depressing. I feared never being able to score in the 160's again, nevermind in the 170's (which is my goal).

Honestly, a break was needed, and I took it. I reviewed my tests and visited my noted from my LSAT class. I also looked at previous tests I had taken to remind myself of what I am capable of.

It helps to chart your past progress so you can see your upward trend. There will be outliers!!! You will have a bad test or a couple of bad tests but they are now outside of what is now the "norm".

I completely understand the SUPER shitty feeling of sitting down for 3/3.5 hours to take a practice test and bombing it. I've been there, and I'm sure that I will, unfortunately, be there again throughout this path.

What also helps is to review those REALLY awful tests. Spend enough time reviewing to get DEEP understanding of each question you got wrong. I've found that once I do that, I feel much better about it.

Re: Really Don't know where to go from here.

Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2016 9:56 am
by New_Spice180
Csta5315 wrote:
btruj777 wrote:It seems like this "low score" was in a PT. And if you are on TLS you are as hardcore as anyone here, because you care so much about what you do ROCK ON. BUT THAT INTENSITY COMES AT A PRICE


While it sounds like BS right now, BURNOUT IS VERY REAL I stood in your shoes many times. Look I am not the HIGHEST SCORER OUT THERE but improvement is what we are tracking for this purpose.


My first test ever was a 150. There was a season in my studies where I was climbing fast, 160, 163, 164, 166, 167, 167 etc etc then one dreadful weekend came.

Sat and sunday, 153, 153, I could vomit both days, I was outraged and upset, demoralized and in pain, with EXACTLY 1 MONTH LEFT. I called everyone I knew for support. The best tip came from my pastor, who is an incredibly well read and educated man as it happens.



He called it like it was, BURNOUT! He told me that I need to let the information sink in and to let my brain store it properly and strongly encouraged me to take a few days off, to go watch a movie and abstain from LSAT (seriously not even 1 LR) for some time. It seemed like BS, but it was my last move.

My very next PT, back in the flow, 167, 168, etc.....


But from there I never pushed it as hard as I did before the WEEKEND FROM HELL (153) in fear of another burnout.


It sounds nuts, but go watch a movie, buy new shoes, spend money else where, dont think of LSAT or law school. PLEASE you will do yourself a favor.


This is a standardized test, you can always repeat the same results and improve, but only after a diagnostic. I hate to say this but your body is much like a machine, some times you gotta reset it and let it cool down.


RELAX, GO SHOPPING, TAKE A DAY, AND THENNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN "KEEP GOING"

You will overcome, but only when you let your body and brain take their time to let this info get recorded in its long term memory lol DONT OVER DO IT

This is AMAZING advice! I too went through a similar experience last week. I kept practice testing and scoring at a 160, 162, 162, 167, and then got a 153 and a 155. I was mortified, and to top it off, I attended a Columbia law school info session the day after scoring a 155 which was very depressing. I feared never being able to score in the 160's again, nevermind in the 170's (which is my goal).

Honestly, a break was needed, and I took it. I reviewed my tests and visited my noted from my LSAT class. I also looked at previous tests I had taken to remind myself of what I am capable of.

It helps to chart your past progress so you can see your upward trend. There will be outliers!!! You will have a bad test or a couple of bad tests but they are now outside of what is now the "norm".

I completely understand the SUPER shitty feeling of sitting down for 3/3.5 hours to take a practice test and bombing it. I've been there, and I'm sure that I will, unfortunately, be there again throughout this path.

What also helps is to review those REALLY awful tests. Spend enough time reviewing to get DEEP understanding of each question you got wrong. I've found that once I do that, I feel much better about it.
Hey TLSers,

You guys really rock hahah. Like really. I' studied lightly yesterday I'm going to start small chunking my study sessions so that I don't experience mental fatigue as easily. Honestly, thank you guys so much. The road isn't easy but I'm going to keep chugging along! I'll keep revisiting this post to remind myself of some fall backs and keep my head high.

Re: Really Don't know where to go from here.

Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2016 1:08 pm
by btruj777
New_Spice180 wrote:
Csta5315 wrote:
btruj777 wrote:It seems like this "low score" was in a PT. And if you are on TLS you are as hardcore as anyone here, because you care so much about what you do ROCK ON. BUT THAT INTENSITY COMES AT A PRICE


While it sounds like BS right now, BURNOUT IS VERY REAL I stood in your shoes many times. Look I am not the HIGHEST SCORER OUT THERE but improvement is what we are tracking for this purpose.


My first test ever was a 150. There was a season in my studies where I was climbing fast, 160, 163, 164, 166, 167, 167 etc etc then one dreadful weekend came.

Sat and sunday, 153, 153, I could vomit both days, I was outraged and upset, demoralized and in pain, with EXACTLY 1 MONTH LEFT. I called everyone I knew for support. The best tip came from my pastor, who is an incredibly well read and educated man as it happens.



He called it like it was, BURNOUT! He told me that I need to let the information sink in and to let my brain store it properly and strongly encouraged me to take a few days off, to go watch a movie and abstain from LSAT (seriously not even 1 LR) for some time. It seemed like BS, but it was my last move.

My very next PT, back in the flow, 167, 168, etc.....


But from there I never pushed it as hard as I did before the WEEKEND FROM HELL (153) in fear of another burnout.


It sounds nuts, but go watch a movie, buy new shoes, spend money else where, dont think of LSAT or law school. PLEASE you will do yourself a favor.


This is a standardized test, you can always repeat the same results and improve, but only after a diagnostic. I hate to say this but your body is much like a machine, some times you gotta reset it and let it cool down.


RELAX, GO SHOPPING, TAKE A DAY, AND THENNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN "KEEP GOING"

You will overcome, but only when you let your body and brain take their time to let this info get recorded in its long term memory lol DONT OVER DO IT

This is AMAZING advice! I too went through a similar experience last week. I kept practice testing and scoring at a 160, 162, 162, 167, and then got a 153 and a 155. I was mortified, and to top it off, I attended a Columbia law school info session the day after scoring a 155 which was very depressing. I feared never being able to score in the 160's again, nevermind in the 170's (which is my goal).

Honestly, a break was needed, and I took it. I reviewed my tests and visited my noted from my LSAT class. I also looked at previous tests I had taken to remind myself of what I am capable of.

It helps to chart your past progress so you can see your upward trend. There will be outliers!!! You will have a bad test or a couple of bad tests but they are now outside of what is now the "norm".

I completely understand the SUPER shitty feeling of sitting down for 3/3.5 hours to take a practice test and bombing it. I've been there, and I'm sure that I will, unfortunately, be there again throughout this path.

What also helps is to review those REALLY awful tests. Spend enough time reviewing to get DEEP understanding of each question you got wrong. I've found that once I do that, I feel much better about it.
Hey TLSers,

You guys really rock hahah. Like really. I' studied lightly yesterday I'm going to start small chunking my study sessions so that I don't experience mental fatigue as easily. Honestly, thank you guys so much. The road isn't easy but I'm going to keep chugging along! I'll keep revisiting this post to remind myself of some fall backs and keep my head high.

Honestly I was not a TSLer until I saw how helpful people were and decided to give back. When I saw your post, I remember being your spot so I had to reply. Let me give you another example of why it is crucial to take time totally off, not just limiting, but a literalstepping away.

When I first took my official test, I was right around my PT average (slightly below actually). Then I got my score and signed up for September, I took a few weeks totally off, and the very first PT I took after my official LSAT was 7 points higher than my real score, and the highest I have ever scored to date. Granted this is a small sample size and I have not repeated the results to that extreme, but time away has always elevated my performance.


Please please please take one day for yourself.

Re: Really Don't know where to go from here.

Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2016 1:20 pm
by New_Spice180
btruj777 wrote:
New_Spice180 wrote:
Csta5315 wrote:
btruj777 wrote:It seems like this "low score" was in a PT. And if you are on TLS you are as hardcore as anyone here, because you care so much about what you do ROCK ON. BUT THAT INTENSITY COMES AT A PRICE


While it sounds like BS right now, BURNOUT IS VERY REAL I stood in your shoes many times. Look I am not the HIGHEST SCORER OUT THERE but improvement is what we are tracking for this purpose.


My first test ever was a 150. There was a season in my studies where I was climbing fast, 160, 163, 164, 166, 167, 167 etc etc then one dreadful weekend came.

Sat and sunday, 153, 153, I could vomit both days, I was outraged and upset, demoralized and in pain, with EXACTLY 1 MONTH LEFT. I called everyone I knew for support. The best tip came from my pastor, who is an incredibly well read and educated man as it happens.



He called it like it was, BURNOUT! He told me that I need to let the information sink in and to let my brain store it properly and strongly encouraged me to take a few days off, to go watch a movie and abstain from LSAT (seriously not even 1 LR) for some time. It seemed like BS, but it was my last move.

My very next PT, back in the flow, 167, 168, etc.....


But from there I never pushed it as hard as I did before the WEEKEND FROM HELL (153) in fear of another burnout.


It sounds nuts, but go watch a movie, buy new shoes, spend money else where, dont think of LSAT or law school. PLEASE you will do yourself a favor.


This is a standardized test, you can always repeat the same results and improve, but only after a diagnostic. I hate to say this but your body is much like a machine, some times you gotta reset it and let it cool down.


RELAX, GO SHOPPING, TAKE A DAY, AND THENNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN "KEEP GOING"

You will overcome, but only when you let your body and brain take their time to let this info get recorded in its long term memory lol DONT OVER DO IT

This is AMAZING advice! I too went through a similar experience last week. I kept practice testing and scoring at a 160, 162, 162, 167, and then got a 153 and a 155. I was mortified, and to top it off, I attended a Columbia law school info session the day after scoring a 155 which was very depressing. I feared never being able to score in the 160's again, nevermind in the 170's (which is my goal).

Honestly, a break was needed, and I took it. I reviewed my tests and visited my noted from my LSAT class. I also looked at previous tests I had taken to remind myself of what I am capable of.

It helps to chart your past progress so you can see your upward trend. There will be outliers!!! You will have a bad test or a couple of bad tests but they are now outside of what is now the "norm".

I completely understand the SUPER shitty feeling of sitting down for 3/3.5 hours to take a practice test and bombing it. I've been there, and I'm sure that I will, unfortunately, be there again throughout this path.

What also helps is to review those REALLY awful tests. Spend enough time reviewing to get DEEP understanding of each question you got wrong. I've found that once I do that, I feel much better about it.
Hey TLSers,

You guys really rock hahah. Like really. I' studied lightly yesterday I'm going to start small chunking my study sessions so that I don't experience mental fatigue as easily. Honestly, thank you guys so much. The road isn't easy but I'm going to keep chugging along! I'll keep revisiting this post to remind myself of some fall backs and keep my head high.

Honestly I was not a TSLer until I saw how helpful people were and decided to give back. When I saw your post, I remember being your spot so I had to reply. Let me give you another example of why it is crucial to take time totally off, not just limiting, but a literalstepping away.

When I first took my official test, I was right around my PT average (slightly below actually). Then I got my score and signed up for September, I took a few weeks totally off, and the very first PT I took after my official LSAT was 7 points higher than my real score, and the highest I have ever scored to date. Granted this is a small sample size and I have not repeated the results to that extreme, but time away has always elevated my performance.


Please please please take one day for yourself.
I feel like you guys are the big bros/sisters telling me to "chill out." I guess chilling out is what I'll have to do!

Re: Really Don't know where to go from here.

Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2016 1:23 pm
by btruj777
Hahaha, best of luck! Remember this thing is beatable. We just have to play it smart. This is way it pays big dividends to give this things proper attention

Re: Really Don't know where to go from here.

Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2016 5:59 pm
by Voyager
New_Spice180 wrote:I'm not sure what's going on but I've scored the worst out of all my time of studying...It's completely demoralizing and all I can is think about how horribly I scored on my LR section, it's as though I have no desire to see my books anymore. I don't know where to go on from here, so I came to TLS to search from some guidance...A about a month away from December and I don't know if I can keep going...
This is just one practice test? No worries, friend!

As everyone else said, keep on rolling.

You have 5 weeks until the exam, your likely just need to step back for a day or two.

Then roll back into drilling and section prep taking 2 practice tests a week or so.

Everyone's scores bounce around a bit and if you take enough tests you will have outliers.