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Is it harder to improve a high-ish starting LSAT?

Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2016 7:29 pm
by bigchiefhoho
Forgive me if this has been asked a million times, but a cursory search didn't turn up much.

I took a practice test cold (correctly timed, no interruptions) a week ago and got a 168. Missed two on each LR, 2 on the RC, and 11 on the LG (actually ran out of time on the LG section). After seeing that my week point is logic games, I got the Bible on the section, and it seems to be helping already.

Anyway, since then I've been browsing around a fair bit, and I see a lot of people talking about bringing their score up from the 140s/150s to the 160s/170s. That's great, obviously, but I'm wondering if the same amount of improvement is possible when you're starting from a higher score, or if improvement will be harder/slower because all the easier points are already snapped up. I'd really like to bring my 168 up to 175+, ideally in time for the December LSAT. Does that seem doable or am I pushing my luck to think I can get 7-10 points in six weeks?

Re: Is it harder to improve a high-ish starting LSAT?

Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2016 8:06 pm
by QuentonCassidy
bigchiefhoho wrote:Forgive me if this has been asked a million times, but a cursory search didn't turn up much.

I took a practice test cold (correctly timed, no interruptions) a week ago and got a 168. Missed two on each LR, 2 on the RC, and 11 on the LG (actually ran out of time on the LG section). After seeing that my week point is logic games, I got the Bible on the section, and it seems to be helping already.

Anyway, since then I've been browsing around a fair bit, and I see a lot of people talking about bringing their score up from the 140s/150s to the 160s/170s. That's great, obviously, but I'm wondering if the same amount of improvement is possible when you're starting from a higher score, or if improvement will be harder/slower because all the easier points are already snapped up. I'd really like to bring my 168 up to 175+, ideally in time for the December LSAT. Does that seem doable or am I pushing my luck to think I can get 7-10 points in six weeks?
Improvement from a high starting score is certainly doable, especially given that your weak point is LG, the most learnable section. I got a 174 on my diagnostic LSAT and ended up with a 180, but I got all the LG questions right on my diagnostic, so not counting the LG section your diagnostic score is much better than mine was. Given that and the fact that LG is the most learnable section, you seem very well set up to be able to score 175+ by December; get LG down, shore up any potential weak spots in LR and RC, and go ace it. Good luck!

Re: Is it harder to improve a high-ish starting LSAT?

Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2016 10:04 pm
by Instrumental
From what I've seen, people who start off with a high scoring diagnostic like yours have little trouble working their way to the mid to upper 170s. Nice work.

Re: Is it harder to improve a high-ish starting LSAT?

Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2016 11:23 pm
by Barack O'Drama
Instrumental wrote:From what I've seen, people who start off with a high scoring diagnostic like yours have little trouble working their way to the mid to upper 170s. Nice work.
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Congrats man. You are soon going to be a LSAT beast. Within a month of earnest LG work, you should have a score in the 170s easily.

Check out the free 7Sage LG explanations to aid you!

Re: Is it harder to improve a high-ish starting LSAT?

Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2016 7:16 pm
by bigchiefhoho
Thanks for the encouragement! I'll keep hitting the LG hard and see what I can do in December.

Re: Is it harder to improve a high-ish starting LSAT?

Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2016 8:00 pm
by Pneumonia
It's the opposite.

Re: Is it harder to improve a high-ish starting LSAT?

Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2016 8:10 pm
by izha
bigchiefhoho wrote:Forgive me if this has been asked a million times, but a cursory search didn't turn up much.

I took a practice test cold (correctly timed, no interruptions) a week ago and got a 168. Missed two on each LR, 2 on the RC, and 11 on the LG (actually ran out of time on the LG section). After seeing that my week point is logic games, I got the Bible on the section, and it seems to be helping already.

Anyway, since then I've been browsing around a fair bit, and I see a lot of people talking about bringing their score up from the 140s/150s to the 160s/170s. That's great, obviously, but I'm wondering if the same amount of improvement is possible when you're starting from a higher score, or if improvement will be harder/slower because all the easier points are already snapped up. I'd really like to bring my 168 up to 175+, ideally in time for the December LSAT. Does that seem doable or am I pushing my luck to think I can get 7-10 points in six weeks?
You are doomed. No chance to improve even measly 15 points.
If seriously, to get from from 168 to 175 is pretty hard, and 6 weeks is too close to count on it.

Re: Is it harder to improve a high-ish starting LSAT?

Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2016 11:39 pm
by Pneumonia
^ normally that's true, but with a 168 diagnostic, OP should have no trouble getting to -0 on LG within a month.

Re: Is it harder to improve a high-ish starting LSAT?

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2016 11:18 pm
by SunDevil14
The test is scaled so generally speaking, it will take more time and effort to go from a 168 to 175 rather than 140 to 160.

That being said the rate of improvement is dependent on the person since you are already scoring so high, improving to 175 in a shorter amount of time may be possible for you where as it may not be for others.

Re: Is it harder to improve a high-ish starting LSAT?

Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2016 12:14 am
by Pneumonia
SunDevil14 wrote:The test is scaled so generally speaking, it will take more time and effort to go from a 168 to 175 rather than 140 to 160.

That being said the rate of improvement is dependent on the person since you are already scoring so high, improving to 175 in a shorter amount of time may be possible for you where as it may not be for others.
The flaw here is that most people on this board who are at 168 have already perfected LG and are working on LR and RC. All OP has to do is spend some time on LG and he's golden.

Re: Is it harder to improve a high-ish starting LSAT?

Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2016 12:39 am
by SunDevil14
Pneumonia wrote:
SunDevil14 wrote:The test is scaled so generally speaking, it will take more time and effort to go from a 168 to 175 rather than 140 to 160.

That being said the rate of improvement is dependent on the person since you are already scoring so high, improving to 175 in a shorter amount of time may be possible for you where as it may not be for others.
The flaw here is that most people on this board who are at 168 have already perfected LG and are working on LR and RC. All OP has to do is spend some time on LG and he's golden.
I think you may have misunderstood my post, what you have described as flaw is the sort of thing I was hinting at was possible for OP but not for others.