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Game Type/Question Type Training & Practice Tests
Posted: Sat May 14, 2016 5:56 pm
by Rupert Pupkin
Hello all,
I finished the Official LSAT Superprep introduction and have begun the Powerscore Bibles. I looked at several study plans on this forum like PithyPike's and even the powerscore study plan on their website. In all, it was recommended to organize games and questions by type to practice while you are doing the bibles-these questions come from previous real LSAT tests.
I checked out Powerscore's book that organizes questions by Type and it said the questions came from real PT's. Additionally, if I am not mistaken, on PithyPike's study plan or more generally most people's studyplans, people bought the "10 Real Lsat PT Books" and organized those games and questions by type. First, which is more preferable (PS or 10 Real..), would they not include the same questions, and since they both come from PTs, when it comes time for me to PT, wouldn't I have already seen all the Questions?
I know it doesn't make sense that people would practice all the questions on the PTs and then sit down and do PTs made up of questions they would have already seen, so I would greatly appreciate if someone could resolve my confusion and provide some recommendations on how I can add the "DRILL" aspect to my training. In regards to this DRILL aspect, should I get the PS Workbook's and how does that practice compare to Game/Question Type training? When you are sitting down and taking full sections before doing full PTs where do you take these sections from?
My current study setup is:
-LSAT Superprep
-PS LG Bible
-PS LR Bible
-PS RC Bible (I know its not the best, so I am going to do some research on the Manhattan, 7Sage and Blueprint RC book)
Do I need to add anything?
Any and all recommendations are welcome. Thank you
Cheers,
Josh
Re: Game Type/Question Type Training & Practice Tests
Posted: Sat May 14, 2016 8:15 pm
by BobLobLaw11
the LSAT Trainer is pretty helpful too. It really solidifies the fundamentals
Re: Game Type/Question Type Training & Practice Tests
Posted: Sat May 14, 2016 8:18 pm
by proteinshake
I would try not to drill questions from PTs that I plan on taking later. do you plan on taking PTs 41-50? if not, Manhattan has this book of the Qs from PTs 41-50 organized by type and difficulty that would be good for drilling:
http://www.amazon.com/Real-LSATs-Groupe ... attan+lsat
don't get the PS workbooks, they aren't really helpful if you have the fundamentals down.
Re: Game Type/Question Type Training & Practice Tests
Posted: Sun May 15, 2016 12:44 am
by Rupert Pupkin
proteinshake wrote:I would try not to drill questions from PTs that I plan on taking later. do you plan on taking PTs 41-50? if not, Manhattan has this book of the Qs from PTs 41-50 organized by type and difficulty that would be good for drilling:
http://www.amazon.com/Real-LSATs-Groupe ... attan+lsat
don't get the PS workbooks, they aren't really helpful if you have the fundamentals down.
I havent figured out yet which ones I am doing. its probably better to save the latest ones for full PTs, right? Then use the rest for by Type and individual sections.
Re: Game Type/Question Type Training & Practice Tests
Posted: Sun May 15, 2016 12:52 am
by proteinshake
jagerbom79 wrote:proteinshake wrote:I would try not to drill questions from PTs that I plan on taking later. do you plan on taking PTs 41-50? if not, Manhattan has this book of the Qs from PTs 41-50 organized by type and difficulty that would be good for drilling:
http://www.amazon.com/Real-LSATs-Groupe ... attan+lsat
don't get the PS workbooks, they aren't really helpful if you have the fundamentals down.
I havent figured out yet which ones I am doing. its probably better to save the latest ones for full PTs, right? Then use the rest for by Type and individual sections.
well do you even have PTs 41-50? they only sell them individually (not in the Next 10 books), so unless you bought them individually, you won't have them. and if you don't plan on getting them, the Manhattan book might be a good option for drilling.
but a better question: which PTs do you have? if you have all of them (preferably in PDF form), you can just sift through the PTs and drill that way using PTs 1 to 38 (what most people use). the LSAT Blog has a list of all the LR and LG questions by type.
Re: Game Type/Question Type Training & Practice Tests
Posted: Sun May 15, 2016 1:45 am
by Rupert Pupkin
proteinshake wrote:jagerbom79 wrote:proteinshake wrote:I would try not to drill questions from PTs that I plan on taking later. do you plan on taking PTs 41-50? if not, Manhattan has this book of the Qs from PTs 41-50 organized by type and difficulty that would be good for drilling:
http://www.amazon.com/Real-LSATs-Groupe ... attan+lsat
don't get the PS workbooks, they aren't really helpful if you have the fundamentals down.
I havent figured out yet which ones I am doing. its probably better to save the latest ones for full PTs, right? Then use the rest for by Type and individual sections.
well do you even have PTs 41-50? they only sell them individually (not in the Next 10 books), so unless you bought them individually, you won't have them. and if you don't plan on getting them, the Manhattan book might be a good option for drilling.
but a better question: which PTs do you have? if you have all of them (preferably in PDF form), you can just sift through the PTs and drill that way using PTs 1 to 38 (what most people use). the LSAT Blog has a list of all the LR and LG questions by type.
I haven't purchased any yet. I wanted to understand better which I should use for questions, full sections and full PTs. Are you saying that most people use 1 to 38 to Drill and do sections and then the rest for full PTs?
Thanks for the help
Re: Game Type/Question Type Training & Practice Tests
Posted: Sun May 15, 2016 1:54 am
by proteinshake
jagerbom79 wrote:proteinshake wrote:jagerbom79 wrote:proteinshake wrote:I would try not to drill questions from PTs that I plan on taking later. do you plan on taking PTs 41-50? if not, Manhattan has this book of the Qs from PTs 41-50 organized by type and difficulty that would be good for drilling:
http://www.amazon.com/Real-LSATs-Groupe ... attan+lsat
don't get the PS workbooks, they aren't really helpful if you have the fundamentals down.
I havent figured out yet which ones I am doing. its probably better to save the latest ones for full PTs, right? Then use the rest for by Type and individual sections.
well do you even have PTs 41-50? they only sell them individually (not in the Next 10 books), so unless you bought them individually, you won't have them. and if you don't plan on getting them, the Manhattan book might be a good option for drilling.
but a better question: which PTs do you have? if you have all of them (preferably in PDF form), you can just sift through the PTs and drill that way using PTs 1 to 38 (what most people use). the LSAT Blog has a list of all the LR and LG questions by type.
I haven't purchased any yet. I wanted to understand better which I should use for questions, full sections and full PTs. Are you saying that most people use 1 to 38 to Drill and do sections and then the rest for full PTs?
Thanks for the help
yes, most people use 1-38 because that's how Cambridge LSAT sold them when they used to sell drill packs. this would leave about 36 fresh PTs.
Re: Game Type/Question Type Training & Practice Tests
Posted: Sun May 15, 2016 8:50 am
by Rupert Pupkin
proteinshake wrote:jagerbom79 wrote:proteinshake wrote:jagerbom79 wrote:proteinshake wrote:I would try not to drill questions from PTs that I plan on taking later. do you plan on taking PTs 41-50? if not, Manhattan has this book of the Qs from PTs 41-50 organized by type and difficulty that would be good for drilling:
http://www.amazon.com/Real-LSATs-Groupe ... attan+lsat
don't get the PS workbooks, they aren't really helpful if you have the fundamentals down.
I havent figured out yet which ones I am doing. its probably better to save the latest ones for full PTs, right? Then use the rest for by Type and individual sections.
well do you even have PTs 41-50? they only sell them individually (not in the Next 10 books), so unless you bought them individually, you won't have them. and if you don't plan on getting them, the Manhattan book might be a good option for drilling.
but a better question: which PTs do you have? if you have all of them (preferably in PDF form), you can just sift through the PTs and drill that way using PTs 1 to 38 (what most people use). the LSAT Blog has a list of all the LR and LG questions by type.
I haven't purchased any yet. I wanted to understand better which I should use for questions, full sections and full PTs. Are you saying that most people use 1 to 38 to Drill and do sections and then the rest for full PTs?
Thanks for the help
yes, most people use 1-38 because that's how Cambridge LSAT sold them when they used to sell drill packs. this would leave about 36 fresh PTs.
Great, Thank you. So did you buy the Cambridge LSAT packets by type for LG and LR? or did you buy the PTs 1 - 38 individually and sort them yourself following the blog?
BobLobLaw11 wrote:the LSAT Trainer is pretty helpful too. It really solidifies the fundamentals
And thats what I hear. I heard that its long and Im just trying to make sure that I also don't go over kill with content so I can begin drilling and PT heavily, but I think I am going to buy it. Only have heard good things about it.
Re: Game Type/Question Type Training & Practice Tests
Posted: Sun May 15, 2016 11:58 am
by Mikey
I believe I told you this in another thread but yeah the trainer is a great resource to have. If you can some how find Cambridge's LR by type packets on ebay or amazon for cheap (people are selling them for like double their OG price now), then definitely snatch one. I have volume 2 for their LR by type packet (PT 21-40) and it was extremely helpful. Most people use the earlier one (Volume 1) but it's up to you. But like I said, people sell them for a crazy amount of money now, so if you can luck out and find a decently priced one then definitely get it.
Re: Game Type/Question Type Training & Practice Tests
Posted: Sun May 15, 2016 10:47 pm
by Rupert Pupkin
TheMikey wrote:I believe I told you this in another thread but yeah the trainer is a great resource to have. If you can some how find Cambridge's LR by type packets on ebay or amazon for cheap (people are selling them for like double their OG price now), then definitely snatch one. I have volume 2 for their LR by type packet (PT 21-40) and it was extremely helpful. Most people use the earlier one (Volume 1) but it's up to you. But like I said, people sell them for a crazy amount of money now, so if you can luck out and find a decently priced one then definitely get it.
Alright, so far I haven't found them reasonably priced so ill opt to just organizing myself. and Yes, you did mention the trainer to me and how good it was. I am going to order it.
Thanks for your advice
Re: Game Type/Question Type Training & Practice Tests
Posted: Sun May 15, 2016 11:54 pm
by proteinshake
the first time I studied I organized the questions myself using the PTs. I bought the Cambridge packers when I retook.
Re: Game Type/Question Type Training & Practice Tests
Posted: Mon May 16, 2016 12:07 pm
by Rupert Pupkin
proteinshake wrote:the first time I studied I organized the questions myself using the PTs. I bought the Cambridge packers when I retook.
I looked at the 1st book in the Official 10 series and it skips a few tests. It starts a 7 and goes to 18, but the Powerscore Game Type Training book says that the games are organized from type from preptests 1-20. Am I better off just going with the Powerscore book?
Re: Game Type/Question Type Training & Practice Tests
Posted: Mon May 16, 2016 12:16 pm
by proteinshake
jagerbom79 wrote:proteinshake wrote:the first time I studied I organized the questions myself using the PTs. I bought the Cambridge packers when I retook.
I looked at the 1st book in the Official 10 series and it skips a few tests. It starts a 7 and goes to 18, but the Powerscore Game Type Training book says that the games are organized from type from preptests 1-20. Am I better off just going with the Powerscore book?
if I were to do it again, I would choose the PS books for drilling. so yes I think it is better. I didn't know PS had that book until you mentioned it.
Re: Game Type/Question Type Training & Practice Tests
Posted: Mon May 16, 2016 12:21 pm
by Rupert Pupkin
proteinshake wrote:jagerbom79 wrote:proteinshake wrote:the first time I studied I organized the questions myself using the PTs. I bought the Cambridge packers when I retook.
I looked at the 1st book in the Official 10 series and it skips a few tests. It starts a 7 and goes to 18, but the Powerscore Game Type Training book says that the games are organized from type from preptests 1-20. Am I better off just going with the Powerscore book?
if I were to do it again, I would choose the PS books for drilling. so yes I think it is better. I didn't know PS had that book until you mentioned it.
Okay, great. I am going to get the PS books. Thanks for all of your help. I appreciate it