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Should you retake? I made a graph

Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2016 12:59 pm
by forum_user
I was bored at work and calculated the t14 admissions probabilities according to my GPA range of 3.8-3.9 and LSAT scores from 170-180. It's basically a visualization of mylsn data from the past 5 years (so sample sizes are relatively small, but still instructive) over a greater number of scores than mylsn allows at a time. Thought it might be interesting to others.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... nteractive

My main takeaways:

At HYS, intuitively, the higher score is generally better, with greatest returns after 172.
178-179 is a weird score, probably owing to the relatively low incidences. It's just like an odd no-man's-land between a great score and a perfect one, and the mean acceptance is slightly lower for these scores than a 177 or a 180.
I thought this point was most interesting: at just about every t14 other than HYS, there is almost no percentage difference between a 172 and a 176 in terms of admission probability. At UVA, Mich, and Penn you're statistically worse off. I haven't looked at scholarships (that's probably where the bigger difference is), but you're no more likely to get in with a 3.85/172 than a 3.85/176, at least broadly speaking according to this data.

Anyways, hope this is helpful! These are fun so if there's a demand for more using different ranges let me know.

And here's a graph for the 3.6-3.7 range.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... nteractive

The higher ranges should be taken with a pound of salt because sample sizes over the past 5 years are generally <20 for each school between 177 and 180.

Re: Should you retake? I made a graph

Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2016 5:30 pm
by simplypara588
This is helpful, thanks! Any interest in doing one for a 3.6-3.7 GPA? :wink:

Re: Should you retake? I made a graph

Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2016 5:32 pm
by Mikey
simplypara588 wrote:This is helpful, thanks! Any interest in doing one for a 3.6-3.7 GPA? :wink:
I second this! ;)

Re: Should you retake? I made a graph

Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2016 10:25 am
by forum_user
TheMikey wrote:
simplypara588 wrote:This is helpful, thanks! Any interest in doing one for a 3.6-3.7 GPA? :wink:
I second this! ;)
Absolutely! I'll update the OP with the link.

Re: Should you retake? I made a graph

Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2016 10:51 am
by Mikey
forum_user wrote:
TheMikey wrote:
simplypara588 wrote:This is helpful, thanks! Any interest in doing one for a 3.6-3.7 GPA? :wink:
I second this! ;)
Absolutely! I'll update the OP with the link.
Thanks! This is actually very helpful :)

Re: Should you retake? I made a graph

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2016 11:36 am
by RamTitan
This is a hall of fame thread

Re: Should you retake? I made a graph

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2016 12:48 pm
by HYSplease
The first graph (3.8-3.9) is locked for me...says I need permission?

Re: Should you retake? I made a graph

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2016 1:18 pm
by KunAgnis
forum_user wrote: I thought this point was most interesting: at just about every t14 other than HYS, there is almost no percentage difference between a 172 and a 176 in terms of admission probability. At UVA, Mich, and Penn you're statistically worse off. I haven't looked at scholarships (that's probably where the bigger difference is), but you're no more likely to get in with a 3.85/172 than a 3.85/172,
Did you mean to write there is no difference between a 3.85/172 and a 3.85/176? Confused as to your intended meaning. Hope you can clarify this for me OP.

Re: Should you retake? I made a graph

Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2016 1:48 pm
by forum_user
RamTitan wrote:This is a hall of fame thread
Cheers! :D
HYSplease wrote:The first graph (3.8-3.9) is locked for me...says I need permission?
That's weird--did the same for me and I made the damn thing. Let me try to fix that.

EDIT: Okay try now? I think something weird happened when I published the second graph, but it looks like both links are working for me now.
KunAgnis wrote:
forum_user wrote: I thought this point was most interesting: at just about every t14 other than HYS, there is almost no percentage difference between a 172 and a 176 in terms of admission probability. At UVA, Mich, and Penn you're statistically worse off. I haven't looked at scholarships (that's probably where the bigger difference is), but you're no more likely to get in with a 3.85/172 than a 3.85/172,
Did you mean to write there is no difference between a 3.85/172 and a 3.85/176? Confused as to your intended meaning. Hope you can clarify this for me OP.
That's right, sorry about that--I updated the OP to fix the typo.