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Post by appind » Sat Sep 17, 2016 2:26 pm

any way to see 7sage difficulty rating of a section without scoring that PT?

my 7sage stats are all messed up because in order to see the star-rating i was scoring empty bubbles for pt

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Post by littlewing67 » Sat Sep 17, 2016 2:27 pm

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Post by 34iplaw » Sat Sep 17, 2016 2:31 pm

theboringest wrote:Did PT 76, misread a rule on game 3- spent five minutes staring at the game before I re-read the rules and realized my mistake. Solved for all possibilities within two minutes but was out of time. Fuck my life.

edit: it is especially bad because I literally invented a new group member and it should have taken me much less time to realize my fuckup. The positive I choose to take away from this is that had I read correctly I could have easily gone -0 for the section.
Just did that one. I'm kind of surprised 7Sage has it labeled as 'easiest.' BRing now.

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Post by proteinshake » Sat Sep 17, 2016 2:32 pm

appind wrote:any way to see 7sage difficulty rating of a section without scoring that PT?

my 7sage stats are all messed up because in order to see the star-rating i was scoring empty bubbles for pt
just score it without putting the answers in, then go back and put your answers in when you're ready.

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Post by Instrumental » Sat Sep 17, 2016 2:40 pm

Took PT 74 this morning

LR: -5
RC: -3 (Dope!)
AR: -6 (Not so dope)

Score: 168

Missed the first question on RC so I thought it was going to be really bad, but turned out to be my best score in a while. AR really tripped me up on that last game. Understanding it wasn't difficult, but the questions asked made it particularly slow for me to work through. Glad to see my LR and RC move up. The difficulty of the last game in AR seems to be the defining aspect of whether I'll do well in that section. I want that 170+ goddammit!

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Post by Mikey » Sat Sep 17, 2016 2:41 pm

PT78 S1 Q14
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Wow. I thought this question was pretty tough and I chose C, and felt that negated it even screwed the argument but I guess not. On 7sage, like half the people who submitted their answers for this question chose A, which is a complete 180 of what it should've said. And I caught onto that which I guess was a good thing so I was surprised so many people chose it. My prephrase was something similar to answer choice D though, but I kind of overlooked it.

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Post by Mikey » Sat Sep 17, 2016 2:50 pm

Then I look at some of these questions that tricked a large amount of people into picking a trick answer choice while I got it right and say to myself "how did they pick this answer, it's so clear that it's not it because of ____".

Well, at least I'm not the shittiest LSAT taker out there, so there's that

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Post by theboringest » Sat Sep 17, 2016 3:14 pm

34iplaw wrote:
theboringest wrote:Did PT 76, misread a rule on game 3- spent five minutes staring at the game before I re-read the rules and realized my mistake. Solved for all possibilities within two minutes but was out of time. Fuck my life.

edit: it is especially bad because I literally invented a new group member and it should have taken me much less time to realize my fuckup. The positive I choose to take away from this is that had I read correctly I could have easily gone -0 for the section.
Just did that one. I'm kind of surprised 7Sage has it labeled as 'easiest.' BRing now.
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Once you realize you can solve it down to 3 sub game boards that only have a couple open spots each it becomes super easy.

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Post by theboringest » Sat Sep 17, 2016 3:19 pm

172 overall for PT76. My epic LG fuckup cost me- went -0 for RC and -4 for LR. A couple of the LR questions I missed were reaaaaaallly subtle. I'm finding that I'm getting much faster with LR but with minimal accuracy improvements...I've been at -3 or -4 combined both sections for a while now.

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Post by 34iplaw » Sat Sep 17, 2016 3:23 pm

theboringest wrote:172 overall for PT76. My epic LG fuckup cost me- went -0 for RC and -4 for LR. A couple of the LR questions I missed were reaaaaaallly subtle. I'm finding that I'm getting much faster with LR but with minimal accuracy improvements...I've been at -3 or -4 combined both sections for a while now.
Yeah. I didn't find it insanely hard but I just about finished. My only score up on G3 was # of each in stim so I missed 17. I dunno. I guess that it was also just a group of games that didn't totally play to my strengths. I'm imagining -1 based on that.

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Post by tofuspeedstar » Sat Sep 17, 2016 3:26 pm

Alexandros wrote:I certainly hope we get a more forgiving curve than June did. :S

Hoping for a curve like the one 71 had (-14 I think)

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Post by theboringest » Sat Sep 17, 2016 3:29 pm

34iplaw wrote:
theboringest wrote:172 overall for PT76. My epic LG fuckup cost me- went -0 for RC and -4 for LR. A couple of the LR questions I missed were reaaaaaallly subtle. I'm finding that I'm getting much faster with LR but with minimal accuracy improvements...I've been at -3 or -4 combined both sections for a while now.
Yeah. I didn't find it insanely hard but I just about finished. My only score up on G3 was # of each in stim so I missed 17. I dunno. I guess that it was also just a group of games that didn't totally play to my strengths. I'm imagining -1 based on that.
4 grouping games would make me sooooooooo happy.

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Post by Alexandros » Sat Sep 17, 2016 3:47 pm

tofuspeedstar wrote:
Alexandros wrote:I certainly hope we get a more forgiving curve than June did. :S

Hoping for a curve like the one 71 had (-14 I think)
-14 would be much more my style. 8)

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Post by Instrumental » Sat Sep 17, 2016 3:49 pm

Damn, the way 7sage split up the board in Game 4 of PT74 is ace. Gotta remember to do that when I'm feeling stuck. Also no thanks to the grouping games. 1 to 1 sequencing plz.

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Post by Mikey » Sat Sep 17, 2016 4:12 pm

What do you guys translate "nearly all" into? Do you translate it into "most" or "the majority"??

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Post by Alexandros » Sat Sep 17, 2016 4:15 pm

TheMikey wrote:What do you guys translate "nearly all" into? Do you translate it into "most" or "the majority"??
Don't both mean the same thing? (more than half)
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Post by Mikey » Sat Sep 17, 2016 4:17 pm

Alexandros wrote:
TheMikey wrote:What do you guys translate "nearly all" into? Do you translate it into "most" or "the majority"??
Don't both mean the same thing?
Oh, the most and majority? Nah I didn't mean it as comparing which one is the right one, I was just trying to clarify if nearly all properly translates into most/majority. Sorry for being unclear lol

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Post by Alexandros » Sat Sep 17, 2016 4:19 pm

TheMikey wrote:
Alexandros wrote:
TheMikey wrote:What do you guys translate "nearly all" into? Do you translate it into "most" or "the majority"??
Don't both mean the same thing?
Oh, the most and majority? Nah I didn't mean it as comparing which one is the right one, I was just trying to clarify if nearly all properly translates into most/majority. Sorry for being unclear lol
Oh! Sorry. In that case, yes. :)
(eta: although I don't really feel the need to translate it into anything. I think "nearly all" implies a somewhat greater proportion than "most" might , and I'd argue that they're not entirely synonymous, (most = 60%. nearly all =/= 60% for me) but for all intents and purposes they have the same meaning. :P )
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Post by Mikey » Sat Sep 17, 2016 4:21 pm

Alexandros wrote:
TheMikey wrote:
Alexandros wrote:
TheMikey wrote:What do you guys translate "nearly all" into? Do you translate it into "most" or "the majority"??
Don't both mean the same thing?
Oh, the most and majority? Nah I didn't mean it as comparing which one is the right one, I was just trying to clarify if nearly all properly translates into most/majority. Sorry for being unclear lol
Oh! Sorry. In that case, yes. :)
iight thanks!

What about "virtually every". Does this mean most as well?

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Post by Alexandros » Sat Sep 17, 2016 4:33 pm

TheMikey wrote:
Alexandros wrote:
TheMikey wrote:
Alexandros wrote:
TheMikey wrote:What do you guys translate "nearly all" into? Do you translate it into "most" or "the majority"??
Don't both mean the same thing?
Oh, the most and majority? Nah I didn't mean it as comparing which one is the right one, I was just trying to clarify if nearly all properly translates into most/majority. Sorry for being unclear lol
Oh! Sorry. In that case, yes. :)
iight thanks!

What about "virtually every". Does this mean most as well?
What I said in the edit to the other post applies here too. I think "virtually every" implies a greater proportion than 'most' does. I don't think I really translate anything in that way tbh unless I don't know what it means.

IMO, to be extremely pedantic -> 'Virtually every'/'nearly al'l is a sufficient condition for the proportion to count as 'most.' However, 'most' is not a sufficient condition for the proportion to count as 'virtually every/nearly all.' (ie, if the proportion was 55%) So I wouldn't consider them completely synonymous.

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Post by Mikey » Sat Sep 17, 2016 4:36 pm

Alexandros wrote:
TheMikey wrote:
Alexandros wrote:
TheMikey wrote:
Alexandros wrote:
TheMikey wrote:What do you guys translate "nearly all" into? Do you translate it into "most" or "the majority"??
Don't both mean the same thing?
Oh, the most and majority? Nah I didn't mean it as comparing which one is the right one, I was just trying to clarify if nearly all properly translates into most/majority. Sorry for being unclear lol
Oh! Sorry. In that case, yes. :)
iight thanks!

What about "virtually every". Does this mean most as well?
What I said in the edit to the other post applies here too. I think "virtually every" implies a greater proportion than 'most' does. I don't think I really translate anything in that way tbh unless I don't know what it means.

IMO, to be extremely pedantic -> 'Virtually every'/'nearly al'l is a sufficient condition for the proportion to count as 'most.' However, 'most' is not a sufficient condition for the proportion to count as 'virtually every/nearly all.' (ie, if the proportion was 55%) So I wouldn't consider them completely synonymous.
Hmm interesting. Thanks boii!

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Post by PhiladelphiaCollins » Sat Sep 17, 2016 4:51 pm

Alexandros wrote:
PhiladelphiaCollins wrote:Just scored 162 on PT 77. what was supposed to be my final PT :( . This is the lowest score I've gotten in my last 4 tests goddamnit I dunno what to do. This was also my worst RC score in a solid 2 months, I ran out of time on the final DNA passage. Breakdown ended up being:

RC: -8
LR: -3
LG: -5 (didn't figure that 3rd game out until I had about 2 minutes left)
LR2: -6

On one hand I'm happy that I've gotten my LR down to under -5 on average per section. On the other hand, I don't know WTF happened to me with the RC over here.

I honestly don't know whether I should cancel or not.
Dips happen. Sucks to have that on your final PT, but don't let it destroy your confidence, and definitely don't cancel over an outlier.
I wrote this right after I finished scoring so I may have been a tad bit melodramatic haha. I think I'm going to spend the rest of the week (Sun-Thurs) just drilling the shit out of the PT sections in the 70s.

The one thing I've gathered is that the LG have not gotten harder, but just weirder. In the older games even if you had some difficult game, you could at least proceed mechanically, but in the last 8-9 PTs you've had to really adapt to at least one game where a weird rule is thrown in there that isn't exactly traditional.

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Post by PhiladelphiaCollins » Sat Sep 17, 2016 4:56 pm

theboringest wrote:Did PT 76, misread a rule on game 3- spent five minutes staring at the game before I re-read the rules and realized my mistake. Solved for all possibilities within two minutes but was out of time. Fuck my life.

edit: it is especially bad because I literally invented a new group member and it should have taken me much less time to realize my fuckup. The positive I choose to take away from this is that had I read correctly I could have easily gone -0 for the section.
This game ruined me a year ago, and when I took PT 76 a week ago. The one big take away I got from it is to always template when in doubt and always re-read rules.

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Post by thatlawlkid » Sat Sep 17, 2016 4:58 pm

brand new box of dixon ticonderoga's in the mail for a tuesday deliver. I'm pretty much assured a 180, right?

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Post by PhiladelphiaCollins » Sat Sep 17, 2016 5:03 pm

Just drove down to my TC in the pouring rain with god awful traffic. Pissed me off to no ends and ate up an 1.5 hours of my day but it definitely gave me some piece of mind.

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