real The Official December 2016 Waiters Group - Patience is a Virtue Forum

[scalawag]

Just smoked some weed - can't even tell I have Crohn's. I'll have a medical card soon in the state in which I reside so no big deal whatever as Bruno would say.

Y'all have got me pumped about going -0 on games. I never would have thought it to be possible for me. I just realized how much time I have until December.

What are your post law school ambitions?

Mine are kind of twofold - go to USC, study entertainment law hopefully work on some copyright law cases. USC has briefed every music copyright case and I've always wanted to go over them, especially with scores. I would love to work on something the Zeppelin case (rock, blues, jazz, classical, funk etc.) but no so interested in computers and what part of that is copyrightable (techno, electronic) I know theory and play a traditional instrument so that's the area I feel like I could do effectively. The Zeppelin verdict was spot on - you can't copyright a chord progression - they're too commonplace. If Spirit had written the arpeggios into the song (which would in turn be a melody) then they would have reached the burden of proof. That's actually what I thought had happened because every radio station basically said they ripped it off.

The other one is go to a state school and work for the public defender's office. I would probably spend that time building a website for the family firm, which doesn't see much action nowadays. There's this one firm that I would have to beat in Google rankings and if anyone asked how I did it I would say it just happened.

If any of you are going to be solo practitioners you can go to http://www.teamtreehouse.com. Learning HTML, and CSS would be enough to build a website and if you learn JavaScript then you could do some killer stuff and make an easy jump to PHP for webforms (the code to do that correctly doesn't take much).

As far as SEO having a FAQ or pages that detail information specific to the categories of the legal services you provide and how scenarios will affect your clients will help out a ton. There are new attorney and lawyer domain names that might help as well. I've also heard having pictures helps and found in experience that the HTML meta description tag helps a lot.

Anyways would like to hear about what you want to do with a law degree. What motivates you to take this test?

Haha! Nice I'm glad to hear it helps with medical stuff...

Plans for after I graduate... Hmmm... Cliche, but Big law. I seem to be the person cut out for it. I'd like to do that and then get good training at a good firm and then see what the future holds. If I like it and am good at it, I'd like to stay. But if I'm miserable I'll leave and do something I like better. Recently I've become H /Y or bust, so hopefully I'll have some decent options. I don't really see myself staying in law forever and there is lots I'd love to do.

That's great man. There's a lot you can do with a J.D. One of the reasons we don't have much business is because my dad quit practicing law years ago to do other stuff with his J.D. But I'm sure you'll have a lot of options with those schools.

By the way - spot on with the 7 Sage recommendation. I'm getting used to it.

[Nik9639]

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[Barack O'Drama]

Wow, conversation finally picked up! Welcome everyone!

I'm finally done with my finals, and now just LSAT until fall semesters starts. Soooo behind on my study plan Have a lot of catching up to do

Welcome back, Nik! Glad to hear you're free until the fall semester starts.

If you feel you are too far behind, you can always postpone. But I think overall you should be ok. We have almost exactly 4 months, 120 days to learn this test!

[Nik9639]

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[FedReserved]

Just smoked some weed - can't even tell I have Crohn's. I'll have a medical card soon in the state in which I reside so no big deal whatever as Bruno would say.

Y'all have got me pumped about going -0 on games. I never would have thought it to be possible for me. I just realized how much time I have until December.

What are your post law school ambitions?

Mine are kind of twofold - go to USC, study entertainment law hopefully work on some copyright law cases. USC has briefed every music copyright case and I've always wanted to go over them, especially with scores. I would love to work on something the Zeppelin case (rock, blues, jazz, classical, funk etc.) but no so interested in computers and what part of that is copyrightable (techno, electronic) I know theory and play a traditional instrument so that's the area I feel like I could do effectively. The Zeppelin verdict was spot on - you can't copyright a chord progression - they're too commonplace. If Spirit had written the arpeggios into the song (which would in turn be a melody) then they would have reached the burden of proof. That's actually what I thought had happened because every radio station basically said they ripped it off.

The other one is go to a state school and work for the public defender's office. I would probably spend that time building a website for the family firm, which doesn't see much action nowadays. There's this one firm that I would have to beat in Google rankings and if anyone asked how I did it I would say it just happened.

If any of you are going to be solo practitioners you can go to http://www.teamtreehouse.com. Learning HTML, and CSS would be enough to build a website and if you learn JavaScript then you could do some killer stuff and make an easy jump to PHP for webforms (the code to do that correctly doesn't take much).

As far as SEO having a FAQ or pages that detail information specific to the categories of the legal services you provide and how scenarios will affect your clients will help out a ton. There are new attorney and lawyer domain names that might help as well. I've also heard having pictures helps and found in experience that the HTML meta description tag helps a lot.

Anyways would like to hear about what you want to do with a law degree. What motivates you to take this test?

Hmm good ole MMJ, it fixes everything

Interested in IP post-law school. Hopefully my plan works out. Would like to practice in LA, maybe the biotech hub in Orange County. We'll see, it all depends on scholarship $$$. Fully or bust

[muscleboundlaw]

Hit a bit of a bump on the studying front the past week. Have myself set up on the LSAT trainer. I did have a question in regards to their study plan. How do you review their drilling sets? Since they take their drills from pt's and they make us take pt's, do we have a resource to go over these or am I supposed to find these elsewhere?

[muscleboundlaw]

Also, when do you guys plan on stopping? A couple of days before the test? A week? The day before?

I am doing the 12 week LSAT trainer and finishing up the month by drilling PS workbooks and 2 pt's a week. Probably 6 hours a day the final month. The 12 weeks of the LSAT trainer will be about 12 to 15 hours per week.

[Alanya]

Anyone looking for a study partner(s)?

I'll be retaking in December. My previous score from the June 2015 LSAT was 162 and I'm aiming to score 170+ this round. I work full-time for a big law firm in downtown LA (fortunately the job isn't too intense). Hence, I'm giving myself 4 months to study, beginning in less than 2 weeks.

I'm open to having online study buddies or if anyone is in the LA area and wants to study together, let me know!

[scalawag]

Also, when do you guys plan on stopping? A couple of days before the test? A week? The day before?

I'm not stopping until the day before the test.

I want to take a practice test a day the month before the test. I would recommend that you try to do this as well. It seems like a good time to move towards predominantly doing Mixed Review. You can take percentages of weak question types and drill them alongside the mixed review.

I think the final week or two it will be about adding stamina but you can definitely do both at once.

[Walliums]

Posted last week about crap going on with my current job. Studied a bit over the weekend and this week but have mostly been using my time and mental energy to get my resume and a cover letter together for a sick job that as just opened up at a nearby federal public defender office. Just thrilled at the idea to be switching industries and getting real law experience. Have always been interested in public defense. Just getting my cover letter reviewed and am going to send in my stuff tonight. Oscillating between paranoia of being under-qualified and of being over-qualified. Wishing I was bilingual as well lol. And keep wondering if I should leave off my cover letter that I am interested in going to law school...

[scalawag]

Posted last week about crap going on with my current job. Studied a bit over the weekend and this week but have mostly been using my time and mental energy to get my resume and a cover letter together for a sick job that as just opened up at a nearby federal public defender office. Just thrilled at the idea to be switching industries and getting real law experience. Have always been interested in public defense. Just getting my cover letter reviewed and am going to send in my stuff tonight. Oscillating between paranoia of being under-qualified and of being over-qualified. Wishing I was bilingual as well lol. And keep wondering if I should leave off my cover letter that I am interested in going to law school...

I would just list qualifications you posses that are skills your job requires, or those that will help you do it better.

If it comes up naturally in the conversation maybe mention you're studying for the LSAT or you want to go to law school. I wouldn't put anything on the cover letter about wanting to go to law school though.

If you have to write why you want the job maybe put the experience and that you want to go to law school, am interesting in being a public defender or whatever.

But if you write about it I wouldn't bring up going to law school in conversation.

[FedReserved]

Studying LR is boring af..

[Deardevil]

Studying LR is boring af..

I actually quite enjoy drilling LR;
hones in on the myriad of mistakes I have now come to realize so that I can improve.
I wouldn't argue that games are the most fun of the bunch, but LR can be enjoyable, too.

How are you finding the passages in the reading department?

[maybeman]

Also, when do you guys plan on stopping? A couple of days before the test? A week? The day before?

I'm not stopping until the day before the test.

I want to take a practice test a day the month before the test. I would recommend that you try to do this as well. It seems like a good time to move towards predominantly doing Mixed Review. You can take percentages of weak question types and drill them alongside the mixed review.

I think the final week or two it will be about adding stamina but you can definitely do both at once.

This is way too much. 7 PTs a week is beyond overkill, and you will have no time to review or rest. Great to be motivated, but be realistic and smart about your study schedule.

[tofuspeedstar]

here we go! back in a few, September gang.

[scalawag]

Also, when do you guys plan on stopping? A couple of days before the test? A week? The day before?

I'm not stopping until the day before the test.

I want to take a practice test a day the month before the test. I would recommend that you try to do this as well. It seems like a good time to move towards predominantly doing Mixed Review. You can take percentages of weak question types and drill them alongside the mixed review.

I think the final week or two it will be about adding stamina but you can definitely do both at once.

This is way too much. 7 PTs a week is beyond overkill, and you will have no time to review or rest. Great to be motivated, but be realistic and smart about your study schedule.

How long should I spend reviewing a practice test? I typically figure out what I did wrong right away. It takes me maybe an hour to review at most.

If I'm not spending enough time reviewing let me know but if I am it's reasonable and will make me more confident and comfortbale when I sit for the exam.

[maybeman]

Also, when do you guys plan on stopping? A couple of days before the test? A week? The day before?

I'm not stopping until the day before the test.

I want to take a practice test a day the month before the test. I would recommend that you try to do this as well. It seems like a good time to move towards predominantly doing Mixed Review. You can take percentages of weak question types and drill them alongside the mixed review.

I think the final week or two it will be about adding stamina but you can definitely do both at once.

This is way too much. 7 PTs a week is beyond overkill, and you will have no time to review or rest. Great to be motivated, but be realistic and smart about your study schedule.

How long should I spend reviewing a practice test? I typically figure out what I did wrong right away. It takes me maybe an hour to review at most.

If I'm not spending enough time reviewing let me know but if I am it's reasonable and will make me more confident and comfortbale when I sit for the exam.

I mean, to each their own. It depends on how you review. If you are reviewing by checking your answers and quickly understanding what you did wrong, that is probably not sufficient. If you're BRing correctly and can still take 7 a week, you're a god and give me your brain. Do whatever makes you comfortable, of course. Most people say 3 a week is the max you can sustainably do in an extended period of time.

[scalawag]

Also, when do you guys plan on stopping? A couple of days before the test? A week? The day before?

I'm not stopping until the day before the test.

I want to take a practice test a day the month before the test. I would recommend that you try to do this as well. It seems like a good time to move towards predominantly doing Mixed Review. You can take percentages of weak question types and drill them alongside the mixed review.

I think the final week or two it will be about adding stamina but you can definitely do both at once.

This is way too much. 7 PTs a week is beyond overkill, and you will have no time to review or rest. Great to be motivated, but be realistic and smart about your study schedule.

You need to be doing predominantly mixed review in the final stage of study before you take the exam. A practice test is the best way to do this - if you're studying a few hours a day you've got time. This is not the stage for drilling individual question types extensively - that should have been done by then.

At this stage we should be drilling individual question types and doing less mixed review.

[scalawag]

Also, when do you guys plan on stopping? A couple of days before the test? A week? The day before?

I'm not stopping until the day before the test.

I want to take a practice test a day the month before the test. I would recommend that you try to do this as well. It seems like a good time to move towards predominantly doing Mixed Review. You can take percentages of weak question types and drill them alongside the mixed review.

I think the final week or two it will be about adding stamina but you can definitely do both at once.

This is way too much. 7 PTs a week is beyond overkill, and you will have no time to review or rest. Great to be motivated, but be realistic and smart about your study schedule.

How long should I spend reviewing a practice test? I typically figure out what I did wrong right away. It takes me maybe an hour to review at most.

If I'm not spending enough time reviewing let me know but if I am it's reasonable and will make me more confident and comfortbale when I sit for the exam.

I mean, to each their own. It depends on how you review. If you are reviewing by checking your answers and quickly understanding what you did wrong, that is probably not sufficient. If you're BRing correctly and can still take 7 a week, you're a god and give me your brain. Do whatever makes you comfortable, of course. Most people say 3 a week is the max you can sustainably do in an extended period of time.

I'll put more time into review and consider what you said. Thanks

[Burt Macklin]

Moving to this thread from the September one.... Started studying ~ January this year, with intermittent breaks (week here and week there for moving houses and what not). Decided I am not going to register for LSAT until I'm averaging over 170 on PTs. Started with LSAT Trainer in January, worked through it taking about 5 PTs, hitting high 150s timed / low 160s in BR. Decided to get 7Sage starter and am now working through CC, at about 67% right now, probably going to upgrade as I enjoy having detailed explanations of LR and RC. For those on 7Sgae, I have the same user name on there as here if you wanna study buddy it up.

What do y'all see as possibilities, assuming a 165 LSAT with the following softs? 3.4 GPA from a senior military college, BSME with distinction, Tau Beta Pi, Pi Tau Sigma, Distinguished Military Graduate, 4.5 years active duty military service.

[Barack O'Drama]

Moving to this thread from the September one.... Started studying ~ January this year, with intermittent breaks (week here and week there for moving houses and what not). Decided I am not going to register for LSAT until I'm averaging over 170 on PTs. Started with LSAT Trainer in January, worked through it taking about 5 PTs, hitting high 150s timed / low 160s in BR. Decided to get 7Sage starter and am now working through CC, at about 67% right now, probably going to upgrade as I enjoy having detailed explanations of LR and RC. For those on 7Sgae, I have the same user name on there as here if you wanna study buddy it up.

What do y'all see as possibilities, assuming a 165 LSAT with the following softs? 3.4 GPA from a senior military college, BSME with distinction, Tau Beta Pi, Pi Tau Sigma, Distinguished Military Graduate, 4.5 years active duty military service.

Great choice man!

I'm a mentor over on 7sage, pm me and I'l let you know my name. It is my real name and I don't want to out myself on here. Although it might be obvious, lol.

I found 7Sage was the turning point in my studying. The CC is amazing if you go through it thoroughly! I definitely think upgrading to the ultimate or Ultimate + is worth it. You get TONS of extra drills/problem sets, every test explanation on video 36-78, and other neat little things. Imo, it is worth it just for the video explanations... It is a game changer having a detailed video review for every question. Many of them have JY doing the questions live for you to watch as well. It is helpful getting in the head of a "Sage" lol

What would the possibility be with those stats (3.4/165) I think you should be good outside of the T14, but I think with a 3.4 you should aim a bit higher depending on your goals.

[yungkahlo]

Checking in, folks! I'm currently drilling and reviewing the Bibles. I'll be sitting in December and February. Let the slog continue!

[maybeman]

3rd PT (64) hit 167--up from 162 diagnostic! LR -7 LG -5 RC -5. Progress! That third game tho... jeezus

[PAtoSC]

Hi All!

This is my first post. I recently decided to go to law school and plan on taking the LSAT in December, and also in February if I don't like my December score.

After reviewing several posts, my brain is starting to get foggy with how I should start prepping for the LSAT. I know many praise 7Sage. Can anyone recommend a set of books I should buy?

[Barack O'Drama]

Hi All!

This is my first post. I recently decided to go to law school and plan on taking the LSAT in December, and also in February if I don't like my December score.

After reviewing several posts, my brain is starting to get foggy with how I should start prepping for the LSAT. I know many praise 7Sage. Can anyone recommend a set of books I should buy?

7Sage + The LSAT Trainer

I purchased every book from Powerscore Bibles to Manhattan, nothing worked as well as those two. 7Sage was my come to jesus moment for the LSAT.
I've been more active on the 7Sage forums recently so let me know if you have any questions. We are a very supportive and helpful community. Stop on by and say hi!