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It makes no sense at all for you to take the LSAT at this time. You're not where you want to be in your preparation, you're not even applying this cycle, and you've already used up a take. Withdraw and take it when you're ready.

Paul Campos wrote:It makes no sense at all for you to take the LSAT at this time. You're not where you want to be in your preparation, you're not even applying this cycle, and you've already used up a take. Withdraw and take it when you're ready.

I'm planning on taking it anyways, because I don't get a refund? Might as well take it, and withdraw afterwards (you get up to 6 days), so at least I can get some more LSAT test experience? My question is though, how bad would two cancellations look? Especially to T-14 schools?

rn2012 wrote:

Paul Campos wrote:It makes no sense at all for you to take the LSAT at this time. You're not where you want to be in your preparation, you're not even applying this cycle, and you've already used up a take. Withdraw and take it when you're ready.

I'm planning on taking it anyways, because I don't get a refund? Might as well take it, and withdraw afterwards (you get up to 6 days), so at least I can get some more LSAT test experience? My question is though, how bad would two cancellations look? Especially to T-14 schools?

Do not do this. It's the worst idea I've seen on this site and has no upside at all. After this test you only have one more shot to get it right. If you freak out on the third take you're screwed. You should withdraw and take it when you're ready. You aren't even applying this cycle! Lsat experience is really dumb. Take a pt at home.

rn2012 wrote:

Paul Campos wrote:It makes no sense at all for you to take the LSAT at this time. You're not where you want to be in your preparation, you're not even applying this cycle, and you've already used up a take. Withdraw and take it when you're ready.

I'm planning on taking it anyways, because I don't get a refund? Might as well take it, and withdraw afterwards (you get up to 6 days), so at least I can get some more LSAT test experience? My question is though, how bad would two cancellations look? Especially to T-14 schools?

Think of it this way, would you rather "save" $200 and have one shot at $100k+, or would you rather "spend" $200 and have two shots at $100k+?
I'm not an economist, but I think the second option is a better use of your money and time.

Clearly wrote:

rn2012 wrote:

Paul Campos wrote:It makes no sense at all for you to take the LSAT at this time. You're not where you want to be in your preparation, you're not even applying this cycle, and you've already used up a take. Withdraw and take it when you're ready.

I'm planning on taking it anyways, because I don't get a refund? Might as well take it, and withdraw afterwards (you get up to 6 days), so at least I can get some more LSAT test experience? My question is though, how bad would two cancellations look? Especially to T-14 schools?

Do not do this. It's the worst idea I've seen on this site and has no upside at all. After this test you only have one more shot to get it right. If you freak out on the third take you're screwed. You should withdraw and take it when you're ready. You aren't even applying this cycle! Lsat experience is really dumb. Take a pt at home.

But I read online that a withdrawal counts as another chance. So either way, I only have one shot to get it right. Might as well show up for the test, right? And I know, the third time around will be super nerve wracking, but I will have a full year off and come Jan., my work schedule will be less grilling (I'll be working part time, not full), so I'll have so much more time to study.

Minnietron wrote:

rn2012 wrote:

Paul Campos wrote:It makes no sense at all for you to take the LSAT at this time. You're not where you want to be in your preparation, you're not even applying this cycle, and you've already used up a take. Withdraw and take it when you're ready.

I'm planning on taking it anyways, because I don't get a refund? Might as well take it, and withdraw afterwards (you get up to 6 days), so at least I can get some more LSAT test experience? My question is though, how bad would two cancellations look? Especially to T-14 schools?

Think of it this way, would you rather "save" $200 and have one shot at $100k+, or would you rather "spend" $200 and have two shots at $100k+?
I'm not an economist, but I think the second option is a better use of your money and time.

Well, that's exactly my question! Would I still have a shot at $100k+, with TWO LSAT cancellation? I know that law schools, especially top law schools, get a bit nervous with two cancellations. If I have a shot at a bottom T-12, with two LSAT cancellations, I will definitely withdraw.

Withdraw before this exam and then you are left with 2 more chances to take the exam within this two-year period. Consider the $200 gone. Take the test when you are ready.

seashell.economy wrote:Withdraw before this exam and then you are left with 2 more chances to take the exam within this two-year period. Consider the $200 gone. Take the test when you are ready.

But doesn't a withdrawal count as a chance?

No, it doesn't count as one of your 3 chances IF you withdraw before the deadline. Check LSAC for the deadline.

Even if you cancel the night before the exam it does NOT count as a take.

seashell.economy wrote:No, it doesn't count as one of your 3 chances IF you withdraw before the deadline. Check LSAC for the deadline.

The deadline was weeks ago.

You don't seem to be listening. The deadline is for a refund. You can cancel up till midnight the night before, it doesn't count as a take and you get no refund.

rn2012 wrote:

seashell.economy wrote:No, it doesn't count as one of your 3 chances IF you withdraw before the deadline. Check LSAC for the deadline.

The deadline was weeks ago.

https://www.powerscore.com/lsat/help/absences.cfm
Withdrawing after the deadline costs you money, not a "take." If you don't trust TLS posters or Powerscore, you can run a google search and find many sources relaying this information.

ETA: OP, you say you have a 176 from the Feb. LSAT. Why are you worried about a retake? The difference between a 176 and 180 will not be significant enough to change your outcome given your 3.0 gpa.

seashell.economy wrote:No, it doesn't count as one of your 3 chances IF you withdraw before the deadline. Check LSAC for the deadline.

And you're not helping by providing misinformation. It doesn't count as a take even if you withdraw the evening before the test. You just don't get a refund. The deadline is about refunds, not about it counting as a take.

Clearly wrote:

seashell.economy wrote:No, it doesn't count as one of your 3 chances IF you withdraw before the deadline. Check LSAC for the deadline.

And you're not helping by providing misinformation. It doesn't count as a take even if you withdraw the evening before the test. You just don't get a refund. The deadline is about refunds, not about it counting as a take.

I said that you can withdraw before the deadline and not have it count as a take. The deadline is 11:59pm the night before the exam. I mentioned loosing out on the money (but not the take) in my previous post. The confusion might be that some people are referring to a deadline for a monetary refund, and others are referring to a deadline to withdraw from the exam and not have it count as a take.

Minnietron wrote:

rn2012 wrote:

seashell.economy wrote:No, it doesn't count as one of your 3 chances IF you withdraw before the deadline. Check LSAC for the deadline.

ETA: OP, you say you have a 176 from the Feb. LSAT. Why are you worried about a retake? The difference between a 176 and 180 will not be significant enough to change your outcome given your 3.0 gpa.

lol busted.

seashell.economy wrote:

Clearly wrote:

seashell.economy wrote:No, it doesn't count as one of your 3 chances IF you withdraw before the deadline. Check LSAC for the deadline.

And you're not helping by providing misinformation. It doesn't count as a take even if you withdraw the evening before the test. You just don't get a refund. The deadline is about refunds, not about it counting as a take.

I said that you can withdraw before the deadline and not have it count as a take. The deadline is 11:59pm the night before the exam. I mentioned loosing out on the money (but not the take) in my previous post. The confusion might be that some people are referring to a deadline for a monetary refund, and others are referring to a deadline to withdraw from the exam and not have it count as a take.

Cmon bro, you told him to check LSAC to find "the night before the exam" deadline?

Even if you just don't show up at the test center it doesn't count as a take. I believe the midnight before exam thingie is just a matter of difference in notation on your score report.

ihenry wrote:Even if you just don't show up at the test center it doesn't count as a take. I believe the midnight before exam thingie is just a matter of difference in notation on your score report.

Correct. Essentially a take starts when you see the test.

Clearly wrote:

ihenry wrote:Even if you just don't show up at the test center it doesn't count as a take. I believe the midnight before exam thingie is just a matter of difference in notation on your score report.

Correct. Essentially a take starts when you see the test.

I think they use "attempt", which is a proper word for it.

ihenry wrote:

Clearly wrote:

ihenry wrote:Even if you just don't show up at the test center it doesn't count as a take. I believe the midnight before exam thingie is just a matter of difference in notation on your score report.

Correct. Essentially a take starts when you see the test.

I think they use "attempt", which is a proper word for it.

Lol semantics, I'm using the common tls lingo, take.

Clearly wrote:

seashell.economy wrote:

Clearly wrote:

seashell.economy wrote:No, it doesn't count as one of your 3 chances IF you withdraw before the deadline. Check LSAC for the deadline.

And you're not helping by providing misinformation. It doesn't count as a take even if you withdraw the evening before the test. You just don't get a refund. The deadline is about refunds, not about it counting as a take.

I said that you can withdraw before the deadline and not have it count as a take. The deadline is 11:59pm the night before the exam. I mentioned loosing out on the money (but not the take) in my previous post. The confusion might be that some people are referring to a deadline for a monetary refund, and others are referring to a deadline to withdraw from the exam and not have it count as a take.

Cmon bro, you told him to check LSAC to find "the night before the exam" deadline?

Absolutely, bro. I didn't even initially want to mention the time, even though I knew it because I myself cancelled around 11pm in June. They could have changed the rules since then...OP still needs to check the deadlines themselves on LSAC.

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Clearly wrote:

ihenry wrote:

Clearly wrote:

ihenry wrote:Even if you just don't show up at the test center it doesn't count as a take. I believe the midnight before exam thingie is just a matter of difference in notation on your score report.

Correct. Essentially a take starts when you see the test.

I think they use "attempt", which is a proper word for it.

Lol semantics, I'm using the common tls lingo, take.

Well if a Withdraw doesn't count as a take (sorry everyone, I was really misinformed on LSAC's policies regarding this), I'll definitely withdraw. Thanks everyone!