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oldercoldervoice · Post by **oldercoldervoice** » Mon Oct 05, 2015 11:01 pm

theugg wrote:I often wonder if some of the people who hate the Kardashians might just have a subconscious problem with women doing whatever they want with their life and with their overt sexuality.

+1

SirArthurDayne · Post by **SirArthurDayne** » Mon Oct 05, 2015 11:02 pm

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mist4bison · Post by **mist4bison** » Mon Oct 05, 2015 11:02 pm

theugg wrote:I often wonder if some of the people who hate the Kardashians might just have a subconscious problem with women doing whatever they want with their life and with their overt sexuality.

I think most people hate them probably because they make millions of dollars for simply existing. America is gross.

SirArthurDayne · Post by **SirArthurDayne** » Mon Oct 05, 2015 11:06 pm

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McJimJam · Post by **McJimJam** » Mon Oct 05, 2015 11:07 pm

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bnssweeney · Post by **bnssweeney** » Mon Oct 05, 2015 11:08 pm

Sometimes I like the Kardashians, and sometimes I don't. The fact that I follow Kylie on Snapchat is my little secret though :/

ugg · Post by **ugg** » Mon Oct 05, 2015 11:09 pm

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SirArthurDayne · Post by **SirArthurDayne** » Mon Oct 05, 2015 11:09 pm

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Talarose · Post by **Talarose** » Mon Oct 05, 2015 11:12 pm

mist4bison wrote:
Talarose wrote:+1 for SATC. I'm already in season 2
When I was like 11 or so my sister had the boxed DVD set for SATC and I would sneak into her room and steal them. I knew way too much for an 11 year old. The episodes also make a lot more sense a decade and a half later lol

Sooooo much better now

SirArthurDayne · Post by **SirArthurDayne** » Mon Oct 05, 2015 11:12 pm

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ugg · Post by **ugg** » Mon Oct 05, 2015 11:13 pm

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ugg · Post by **ugg** » Mon Oct 05, 2015 11:13 pm

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mist4bison · Post by **mist4bison** » Mon Oct 05, 2015 11:13 pm

SirArthurDayne wrote:
mist4bison wrote:
theugg wrote:I often wonder if some of the people who hate the Kardashians might just have a subconscious problem with women doing whatever they want with their life and with their overt sexuality.
I think most people hate them probably because they make millions of dollars for simply existing. America is gross.

This is such a silly thing to say. There are plenty of people making bank but they don't receive anywhere close to the level of resentment. It stems from the fact that they don't do shit. They simply became famous by association.

Yes, I literally just said "for simply existing." As in they make millions of dollars for, as you said it, not doing shit.

oldercoldervoice · Post by **oldercoldervoice** » Mon Oct 05, 2015 11:14 pm

theugg wrote:I believe that it is the intensity of the hate as compared to similar male counterparts (any male reality TV star) that gives me pause.

Again, I'm not accusing you of anything. But the ferocity of the hate and some of the words used to describe them make me suspect what I said previously in many cases.

Especially the frequent reiteration re:Kim that "all she ever did was make a sex tape." For people who are still bringing that up however many years later, that's a pretty clear indication that there's some misogyny going on.

mist4bison · Post by **mist4bison** » Mon Oct 05, 2015 11:15 pm

theugg wrote:Kim and her mother are actually PR geniuses. Thousands have failed to actually make it big after something like a sex tape. Not to mention the whole family has had many successful businesses. You can talk shit about them all day, but they are good at what they do. I'd call that talent that many businessmen would kill for.

This I agree with. I actually have nothing against the Kardashians. They're doing what any sane person would do--profit.

What I hate is that our society is a place where the Kardashians thrive. It certainly says something about the American people.

SirArthurDayne · Post by **SirArthurDayne** » Mon Oct 05, 2015 11:16 pm

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Talarose · Post by **Talarose** » Mon Oct 05, 2015 11:17 pm

It's just sad how many people follow them and do everything they say. I really don't mind them. I mean, I do think they're stupid but whatever. I just hate Kim. She has gotten too trashy and needy for my taste. Lacks self respect.

ugg · Post by **ugg** » Mon Oct 05, 2015 11:17 pm

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McJimJam · Post by **McJimJam** » Mon Oct 05, 2015 11:17 pm

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oldercoldervoice · Post by **oldercoldervoice** » Mon Oct 05, 2015 11:18 pm

theugg wrote:
Talarose wrote:It's just sad how many people follow them and do everything they say. I really don't mind them. I mean, I do think they're stupid but whatever. I just hate Kim. She has gotten too trashy and needy for my taste. Lacks self respect.
This is exactly the stuff I was taking about

Lmao @ "she's too trashy for my taste" == "she doesn't respect herself"

ugg · Post by **ugg** » Mon Oct 05, 2015 11:19 pm

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SirArthurDayne · Post by **SirArthurDayne** » Mon Oct 05, 2015 11:19 pm

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oldercoldervoice · Post by **oldercoldervoice** » Mon Oct 05, 2015 11:19 pm

Is anyone still watching this game?

Literally only the Lions could ever get a chance that good and fuck it up this badly.

McJimJam · Post by **McJimJam** » Mon Oct 05, 2015 11:20 pm

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Talarose · Post by **Talarose** » Mon Oct 05, 2015 11:21 pm

oldercoldervoice wrote:
theugg wrote:
Talarose wrote:It's just sad how many people follow them and do everything they say. I really don't mind them. I mean, I do think they're stupid but whatever. I just hate Kim. She has gotten too trashy and needy for my taste. Lacks self respect.
This is exactly the stuff I was taking about
Lmao @ "she's too trashy for my taste" == "she doesn't respect herself"

Guys I thought we were trying to fight, what's going on