Page 1 of 2

prep tests 52-71 too old ?

Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2015 3:43 pm
by jaysan150
I will be going through these tests but I am curious if they're still good enough for the lsat if I plan to take it sometime this year . I know this test is constantly evolving

Re: prep tests 52-71 too old ?

Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2015 3:45 pm
by Dr. Nefario
jaysan150 wrote:I will be going through these tests but I am curious if they're still good enough for the lsat if I plan to take it sometime this year . I know this test is constantly evolving
Every prep test is fine to use. Especially that range.

Re: prep tests 52-71 too old ?

Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2015 4:01 pm
by msp8
If we had told you they were too old, what would you have used?

Re: prep tests 52-71 too old ?

Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2015 4:05 pm
by nlee10
The "evolution" isn't as drastic as you think it is.
I would consider anything 52- to be fairly modern.

Re: prep tests 52-71 too old ?

Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2015 6:15 pm
by jaysan150
msp8 wrote:If we had told you they were too old, what would you have used?



More recent tests like the last ten that have been administered

Re: prep tests 52-71 too old ?

Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2015 6:16 pm
by leslieknope
December was PT 74, so 64-74 are the most recent 10 administered.

Re: prep tests 52-71 too old ?

Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2015 7:15 pm
by Rigo
Everything pre-PT70 is a waste of time and you'll actually be learning bad habits.


Eta: obvious joke. You're good to go, OP. 52+ is what I consider "modern" LSATs.

Re: prep tests 52-71 too old ?

Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2015 8:18 pm
by GameOfLoans
Honestly, Depending how long you're studying you may want to use testing going as far back as 1. I would the earlier ones (1-40/45) to get started or for warm up/experimental.

45-74 are fine, 62-74 are your best bet (I think there is a book containing 62-71).


To answer your question, NO -- 52-71 are not too old.

Re: prep tests 52-71 too old ?

Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2015 8:37 pm
by yamamoto90
Totally agree that they're not too old. I used practice tests from as early as PT<10 and just interspliced the newer ones throughout, saving the most recent for last. It really helped me writing out my study plan with the exact PTs I planned on taking.

Don't think you'll acquire bad study habits. Consistently scored high 170s on PTs and ended up with mid-170s on test day.

Re: prep tests 52-71 too old ?

Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2015 1:25 am
by Louis1127
nlee10 wrote:The "evolution" isn't as drastic as you think it is.
This this this!

They're totally fine to learn from OP.

Re: prep tests 52-71 too old ?

Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2015 6:24 pm
by Clyde Frog
PT 71 is insanely outdated.

Re: prep tests 52-71 too old ?

Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2015 7:28 pm
by Clearly
This thread makes me feel old.

Re: prep tests 52-71 too old ?

Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2015 11:29 pm
by Jeffort
Clearly wrote:This thread makes me feel old.
Ok Padawan, how do you think it makes me feel? :wink: lol

Re: prep tests 52-71 too old ?

Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 12:04 am
by xxx
I'd sign up with an LSAT prep company. They will have all the up to date stuff.
Cost a little more up front (but not much when you factor in the cost of retaking)

Re: prep tests 52-71 too old ?

Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 12:28 am
by NonTradLawHopeful
xxx wrote:I'd sign up with an LSAT prep company. They will have all the up to date stuff.
Cost a little more up front (but not much when you factor in the cost of retaking)
LSAC also has all of the "up to date stuff" for $3 a test.

Re: prep tests 52-71 too old ?

Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 12:32 am
by xxx
NonTradLawHopeful wrote:
xxx wrote:I'd sign up with an LSAT prep company. They will have all the up to date stuff.
Cost a little more up front (but not much when you factor in the cost of retaking)
LSAC also has all of the "up to date stuff" for $3 a test.
I'd still avoid the "save a penny now cost a dollar later" mentality

Re: prep tests 52-71 too old ?

Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 12:48 am
by NonTradLawHopeful
xxx wrote:
NonTradLawHopeful wrote:
xxx wrote:I'd sign up with an LSAT prep company. They will have all the up to date stuff.
Cost a little more up front (but not much when you factor in the cost of retaking)
LSAC also has all of the "up to date stuff" for $3 a test.
I'd still avoid the "save a penny now cost a dollar later" mentality
Not sure where you're going with that. Unless you go with an online company like 7Sage (and maybe Velocity? Don't know a lot about them) the best place to get the recent full length tests is either LSAC or Amazon. The self study guides use older questions to keep the new tests fresh, and live prep classes will only have you take a small number of full length tests. Regardless of the option you choose, the tests from LSAC are a smart purchase.

Re: prep tests 52-71 too old ?

Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 12:56 am
by xxx
I'm not sure if you've sat the LSAT yet or not, so I'll be kind on this. Its not worth playing the "I'll be ok" game. PAY FOR THE PREP COURSE. Even just 5 extra LSAT points can be the difference between admissions or not, or of an increased scholarship which saves you FAR MORE than the prep course costs.

I took Kaplan, but I hear others are good too.

Re: prep tests 52-71 too old ?

Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 1:01 am
by A. Nony Mouse
Kaplan is pretty notoriously terrible.

Re: prep tests 52-71 too old ?

Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 1:04 am
by xxx
A. Nony Mouse wrote:Kaplan is pretty notoriously terrible.
I still felt better with them than no one
if you know of a better one, well, then use the better one
but don't walk blindly into the night happy that you saved money not buying a flashlight is my point

Re: prep tests 52-71 too old ?

Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 1:07 am
by NonTradLawHopeful
xxx wrote:I'm not sure if you've sat the LSAT yet or not, so I'll be kind on this. Its not worth playing the "I'll be ok" game. PAY FOR THE PREP COURSE. Even just 5 extra LSAT points can be the difference between admissions or not, or of an increased scholarship which saves you FAR MORE than the prep course costs.

I took Kaplan, but I hear others are good too.
Yes, I've taken the LSAT, and would recommend to anyone to self study with quality materials (powerscore, Manhattan, LSAT Trainer, Cambridge packets, PTs) over the live classes. In your Kaplan class you probably only took 4-6 full length practice tests. That's not nearly enough for most people to be prepared.

Re: prep tests 52-71 too old ?

Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 1:08 am
by xxx
NonTradLawHopeful wrote:
xxx wrote:I'm not sure if you've sat the LSAT yet or not, so I'll be kind on this. Its not worth playing the "I'll be ok" game. PAY FOR THE PREP COURSE. Even just 5 extra LSAT points can be the difference between admissions or not, or of an increased scholarship which saves you FAR MORE than the prep course costs.

I took Kaplan, but I hear others are good too.
Yes, I've taken the LSAT, and would recommend to anyone to self study with quality materials (powerscore, Manhattan, LSAT Trainer, Cambridge packets, PTs) over the live classes. In your Kaplan class you probably only took 4-6 full length practice tests. That's not nearly enough for most people to be prepared.
You sound like you think someone has to pick between eating only fruits or only vegetables

Re: prep tests 52-71 too old ?

Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 1:13 am
by Clearly
xxx wrote:
A. Nony Mouse wrote:Kaplan is pretty notoriously terrible.
I still felt better with them than no one
if you know of a better one, well, then use the better one
but don't walk blindly into the night happy that you saved money not buying a flashlight is my point
How did you do?

Re: prep tests 52-71 too old ?

Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 1:14 am
by Louis1127
So who would be in a situation where they could take either Kaplan or no course, xxx?

Re: prep tests 52-71 too old ?

Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 1:17 am
by NonTradLawHopeful
xxx wrote:
NonTradLawHopeful wrote:
xxx wrote:I'm not sure if you've sat the LSAT yet or not, so I'll be kind on this. Its not worth playing the "I'll be ok" game. PAY FOR THE PREP COURSE. Even just 5 extra LSAT points can be the difference between admissions or not, or of an increased scholarship which saves you FAR MORE than the prep course costs.

I took Kaplan, but I hear others are good too.
Yes, I've taken the LSAT, and would recommend to anyone to self study with quality materials (powerscore, Manhattan, LSAT Trainer, Cambridge packets, PTs) over the live classes. In your Kaplan class you probably only took 4-6 full length practice tests. That's not nearly enough for most people to be prepared.
You sound like you think someone has to pick between eating only fruits or only vegetables
You can certainly do both. I have personally found a lot more value in the self study route, so I see no point in dropping $1,000+ on a substandard prep option.