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PT 74 lg #23
Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2015 11:03 am
by gojj11
I still cannot get it.
As I know, contrapositive of ''If not K to T -> both A and B to T" is "either A or B is not to T(or Unless either A or B to T) -> K to T".
Why E is wrong?
I'm getting confused now

Re: PT 74 lg #23
Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2015 11:08 am
by leslieknope
E says "either H or F to T" and translates to "/(H or M) to T ----> K to T". That's different than the language in the rule, which calls for a block. C says "/K to T---> FM to T", which, since FH are basically the same item due to the block language, makes it correct.
Re: PT 74 lg #23
Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2015 11:47 am
by gojj11
leslieknope wrote:E says "either H or F to T" and translates to "/(H or M) to T ----> K to T". That's different than the language in the rule, which calls for a block. C says "/K to T---> FM to T", which, since FH are basically the same item due to the block language, makes it correct.
thanks! got what I missed. really helped!

Re: PT 74 lg #23
Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2015 3:33 pm
by Rook
can someone explain to me how exactly you go about diagramming C? as far as i understand, whatever comes after the 'unless' is the necessary condition, and whatever comes before it is the sufficient negated. i dont know how to diagram this rule, as unless is the first word.
Re: PT 74 lg #23
Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2015 3:40 pm
by leslieknope
Rook wrote:can someone explain to me how exactly you go about diagramming C? as far as i understand, whatever comes after the 'unless' is the necessary condition, and whatever comes before it is the sufficient negated. i dont know how to diagram this rule, as unless is the first word.
That's actually the trick to diagram the contrapositive. I personally find it easier to think of unless (and without/except/until) as negate sufficient indicators. You take whatever is after the unless, negate it, and that's your sufficient condition. The other term is the necessary condition. So "Unless K is in T, F and M are in T" becomes "/K to T---> FM to T."
Re: PT 74 lg #23
Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2015 4:29 pm
by Rook
leslieknope wrote:Rook wrote:can someone explain to me how exactly you go about diagramming C? as far as i understand, whatever comes after the 'unless' is the necessary condition, and whatever comes before it is the sufficient negated. i dont know how to diagram this rule, as unless is the first word.
That's actually the trick to diagram the contrapositive. I personally find it easier to think of unless (and without/except/until) as negate sufficient indicators. You take whatever is after the unless, negate it, and that's your sufficient condition. The other term is the necessary condition. So "Unless K is in T, F and M are in T" becomes "/K to T---> FM to T."
i see...thanks for the explanation!