Help... taking the LSAT four times? Forum

YorkshireRose · Post by **YorkshireRose** » Tue Oct 21, 2014 1:02 pm

Just in need of some advice and/or anecdotal evidence. I might take the LSAT a fourth time this December. I got a 161 on the Oct 2011 test, 164 in Oct 2013, and 167 on the most recent LSAT. Just short of my goal, which is agonizing. I didn't study much for the first two takes, but I studied for about 5 months straight every day for that 167 and I'm pretty disappointed. I choked on one of the logic games, which is usually my best section, and missed 3 questions (where I normally miss zero). Now I'm wondering if it's worth it to take the LSAT one more time. I do believe I can crack 170, and I made significant improvements in the RC and LR sections (down to -4 where I was normally -8). I have a modified study plan in mind for the re-take, mainly involving LG drilling. I know I can do better. But… I'm worried about how 4 scores look to adcomms.

My first choice is UCLA. My chances with my current stats don't look too promising (GPA is 3.76). Is it worth it to take the LSAT a fourth time, or will it hurt me more than help me, even if I achieve a 170+?

p89sean16 · Post by **p89sean16** » Tue Oct 21, 2014 1:08 pm

I don't believe scoring higher will hurt you at UCLA or similar schools, maybe a 4th test will be averaged at Berkeley / Y / S, etc. Continued improvement and upward trends are definitely favored, and I think adcomms know the LSAT tests taking the LSAT, rather than any great skill. For full disclosure I am 3x taker, having gone from 159 -> 166 -> 169, and I added an addendum about how I take self improvement and my law school education seriously, and as such worked until I received a score most reflective of my abilities. All the adcomms I have spoken to mentioned it was totally okay.

If you think you can improve, go for it. Esp given the highest overall score emphasis from the ABA.

phillywc · Post by **phillywc** » Tue Oct 21, 2014 1:09 pm

I know several people at T14 schools with 4+ takes. Just get there eventually and be prepared to ride a watlist or 8.

YorkshireRose · Post by **YorkshireRose** » Tue Oct 21, 2014 3:08 pm

Thanks for the replies!

Does anyone else have any insight? I'm leaning towards a re-take in December, while everything is still fresh in my mind. I'm not applying to any T14 schools. I want to stay in SoCal with my partner, so I'm aiming for USC or UCLA.

p89sean16 · Post by **p89sean16** » Tue Oct 21, 2014 10:05 pm

YorkshireRose wrote:Thanks for the replies!

Does anyone else have any insight? I'm leaning towards a re-take in December, while everything is still fresh in my mind. I'm not applying to any T14 schools. I want to stay in SoCal with my partner, so I'm aiming for USC or UCLA.

I think you're already in decent shape at USC, probably better than a coin flip at UCLA, but a few points would shore that up and add $$. I think it may be worth applying to T14 for you even if you don't want to attend, if you improve your score, for scholarship negotiation purposes. Helps to have leverage and bargaining chips from higher ranked schools. Would suggest Cornell and GULC, and NU loves WE.

dontdoitkid · Post by **dontdoitkid** » Wed Oct 22, 2014 11:00 am

I'm taking it a fourth time this December as well (glad to see I'm not the only one).

Most of the consensus I've gathered is that if you've taken three times, a fourth won't hurt but can definitely help if you score higher. Don't worry about how how having four scores will look to the admission committees. Even if they would be at all slightly impacted by it, they'll be much more greatly impacted by seeing an improvement in your LSAT, since that's what they really care about.

YorkshireRose · Post by **YorkshireRose** » Wed Oct 22, 2014 1:03 pm

Thank you very much everyone! I feel better about my retakes now. I'm all signed up for December.

Donashimen · Post by **Donashimen** » Wed Oct 22, 2014 7:25 pm

Hello everyone,

I am contemplating taking the December LSAT as well. It will be my third time. I wasn't sure how many time we are allowed to take the LSATs. It seems that we can take it a fourth time? and it would not look bad?

LawzGurl · Post by **LawzGurl** » Wed Oct 22, 2014 7:29 pm

Holla I got a 2.8 and 144 lsat test which school should i go to?

phillywc · Post by **phillywc** » Wed Oct 22, 2014 7:33 pm

Donashimen wrote:Hello everyone,

I am contemplating taking the December LSAT as well. It will be my third time. I wasn't sure how many time we are allowed to take the LSATs. It seems that we can take it a fourth time? and it would not look bad?

You can only take it 3 times in a 2 year period. After that you can take it again.

thecap91 · Post by **thecap91** » Mon Oct 26, 2015 10:24 pm

LawzGurl wrote:Holla I got a 2.8 and 144 lsat test which school should i go to?

this is great.

PatriotP74 · Post by **PatriotP74** » Mon Oct 26, 2015 10:26 pm

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KPUSN07 · Post by **KPUSN07** » Tue Oct 27, 2015 9:29 am

LawzGurl wrote:Holla I got a 2.8 and 144 lsat test which school should i go to?

You need to retake the LSAT again.....

CanadianWolf · Post by **CanadianWolf** » Tue Oct 27, 2015 9:39 am

You need to retake the LSAT in order to generate a significant scholarship offer from your two target schools (USC & UCLA). Also, if you increase your LSAT score, consider applying to Cornell & Michigan in order to create more negotiating leverage with your two target schools.

dontdoitkid · Post by **dontdoitkid** » Wed Nov 04, 2015 5:23 pm

PatriotP74 wrote:
dontdoitkid wrote:I'm taking it a fourth time this December as well (glad to see I'm not the only one).

Most of the consensus I've gathered is that if you've taken three times, a fourth won't hurt but can definitely help if you score higher. Don't worry about how how having four scores will look to the admission committees. Even if they would be at all slightly impacted by it, they'll be much more greatly impacted by seeing an improvement in your LSAT, since that's what they really care about.

Another 4th time taker here, also really glad to see I am not the only one.

whoaaaa it's been a while since I've been on there. but yeah 4th time = worth it. Got me 10,000 more a year on an already good scholarship. Well into my 1L semester. Best of luck, and on the bright side I promise you will completely forget what the LSAT ever was.

DrSpaceman · Post by **DrSpaceman** » Wed Nov 04, 2015 5:47 pm

Sweet Jesus, 4 takes. That kind of self-flagellation deserves a scholarship even if your score goes down each time.

Cubank · Post by **Cubank** » Wed Nov 04, 2015 5:58 pm

dontdoitkid wrote:
PatriotP74 wrote:
dontdoitkid wrote: whoaaaa it's been a while since I've been on there. but yeah 4th time = worth it. Got me 10,000 more a year on an already good scholarship. Well into my 1L semester. Best of luck, and on the bright side I promise you will completely forget what the LSAT ever was.

Do you mind explaining how the timeline worked out for you to get a scholly increase with an LSAT score while already a 1L? Would appreciate.

Phoenix97 · Post by **Phoenix97** » Wed Nov 04, 2015 6:59 pm

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thecap91 · Post by **thecap91** » Wed Nov 04, 2015 8:32 pm

Phoenix97 wrote:
thecap91 wrote:
LawzGurl wrote:Holla I got a 2.8 and 144 lsat test which school should i go to?
this is great.
Did you see this troll's other posts? Looks like a fake profile created by someone who is bitter about the fact he/she did not qualify for an URM boost.
Pretty pathetic.

Yeah I think it's pretty hilarious to be honest. Holla hahaha

Phoenix97 · Post by **Phoenix97** » Wed Nov 04, 2015 8:50 pm

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ihenry · Post by **ihenry** » Fri Nov 06, 2015 8:24 am

I laughed past two stations on subway train. Your bumping the one-year old thread is appreciated.