joeisreallycool wrote:KDLMaj wrote:ilikebaseball wrote:blacklungz wrote:Hey all. Long time lurker, and I've decided to create an account and ask a few questions regarding my study strategy for the September LSAT. I'm currently enrolled in a Testmasters course and have been doing all the homework (just recently started incorporating timing into the HW). I've taken only two five-section-PTs. I'm currently missing 6 on RC, 7 on each LR and I'm nearing perfection on LG. However, in untimed conditions, I'm getting 1-2 misses in LR and 2-3 misses in RC. I feel as though my fundamentals are pretty sound but it's just a matter of taking it under timed conditions. I plan on taking about 10-12 additional PTs before actual test day.
A few questions:
(1) Is a 170+ realistically attainable?
(2) Should I be focusing on completing all of my Testmasters HW, or just really focus on the harder questions at the end of the HW sections only?
(3) What can I do other than PTs to work on my timing? Drilling certain sections? Timing my homework more frequently?
Thanks for any advice in advance!
If you're doing fine in untimed conditions than it sorta says that you have the concepts down, you just gotta keep taking sections or PT's. The common sentiment is for LR finish "10 in 10 minutes" and then once that's easy try "15 in 15 minutes." Although the latter has always been odd to me, because I find questions 12-17 to be the hardest in the section almost routinely.
For RC I feel your pain. I struggled and struggled and struggled. I even got to the point where I didn't think it was possible for me to get below -8. I took for granted the advice that people gave on the forums. You seriously do naturally get stronger the more you do it. Its insane. There is no "go to" strategy for it. The more you do, the higher of a chance you'll find what works for you. No joke, literally fuckin 2 and a half weeks ago I was timed almost every single time on RC at 42 or 43 minutes while missing 8. Now I'm missing below 5 and finishing in 34 minutes because I just worked the shit out of them. There is a pattern. Despite what anyone says, there is a pattern in the questions and the types of passages. Its all about repitition
You got 6 weeks. I know you want people to tell you "oh man you can do it!" But none of that's gonna matter. You can do it if you put the time in. If you treat it like a job, you can do it. If you take it lightly at all, then you wont. There's always someone out there drilling for September. So time you spend on other activities is time that other people are getting better.
1) Here are some RC Tips:
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... 6&t=234382 (There IS a strategy for RC, most people just don't know it)
2) Agreed with previous posted that 15 in 15 is insane and should be avoided at all costs. And by that I don't mean it's necessarily a bad thing to get 15 in 15 (though it makes me damn wary), but actively aiming for that (or even 10 in 10 honestly) is a recipe for disaster. You'll start prioritizing your clock over your points. If you're going to pull a 170, you can't afford to be missing a bunch of easy questions because you went into rush mode.
3) Do not just focus on harder questions. They often test different things than the rest (or the same things in different ways), and so if you spend all of your time there you'll find you start losing points elsewhere. There are generally enough easy and medium level difficulty questions to get you into the 160s by themselves (including guess points for the rest). Never forget that.
Good luck!
If 15 in 15 is bad, and 10 in 10 is also not ideal, how would you suggest I manage time in LR? Like OP I also seem to be struggling with timing.
Thank you for your RC guide by the way, really has helped me improve.
You're welcome on the RC Guide- glad it was helpful!
People get too caught up on time when they should be more worried about points. Let's take a typical 25 Q LR Section. Say you only did the first 15 questions, and you skipped everything else. Assuming you got them all right (which is a big assumption- there are 2-3 toughies in there usually), you'd have:
15 points from questions
2 points from guessing on the other 10 (20% chance of getting it right)
That's 17/25, or 68%. And that's a weird, worst case scenario where you don't do any of the last 10. For a lot of people, that's a better LR Score than they're getting.
What I'm getting at here, is those first 15 questions are your cash cow. The vast majority of your points are going to come from there, odds are. So you do whatever you need to in order to make sure you're maximizing your points in those questions. Think to the last 10 questions- you're going to miss more there than the rest more likely than not. What do you lose if you don't get to 2 questions at the end that you were going to get wrong anyway? Nothing. What have you gained? If you play your cards right- time.
So here's the real practical suggestion I have:
From now on, after you finish question 15, record your time in the test booklet. Then, when you review those questions, review every question you got wrong very carefully and put it into one of three categories (you really should always be doing this)
1. DUH- I can't believe I got this wrong. The second I looked at it, the answer was obvious. Didn't even need explanations.
2. I get it now, but I wouldn't have at the time. There was something I didn't realize I should be looking for, or some wrong answer trap I wasn't aware existed.
3. I'm still confused
If you've got ANY questions in the first 15 that are in category 1, you're mismanaging your time. Try giving yourself a little more time and slowing down a bit on those questions.* On the other hand, if all of the ones you missed were in category 2 or 3, then timing is not the issue. See if you can speed up ever so slightly until you find yourself missing category 1 questions again.
There's no set amount of time needed for the first 15- it depends on you and the section. Remember- half of your job is to study yourself during this whole process. But when I hear LSAT instructors say things like "Do the first 15 in 15 minutes", I want to throttle them. People who should be doing that were already doing it and didn't need to hear it. The other 90% are now going to start rushing and missing questions there for no good reason- just so they can get to some questions at the end that they're WAY less likely to get right. Remember- there's no prize for completion. Just for high scores. Sometimes the two are mutually exclusive.
Make sense?
*When I say slow down- be careful about WHERE you're slowing down. I don't mean stare at answer choices longer. You should be spending relatively little in answer choices and spending more time reading the stim more carefully and predicting the answer. The stim has the answer. The choices have the traps. More time in the latter generally = lower score.