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"Many" and "Some," quick question

Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2014 3:52 pm
by WaltGrace83
Does "many" = "some?" As in, if I negate "many" is it "none?"

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Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2014 3:56 pm
by mornincounselor
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Re: "Many" and "Some," quick question

Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2014 3:58 pm
by gavaga1
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Re: "Many" and "Some," quick question

Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2014 4:16 pm
by ilikebaseball
WaltGrace83 wrote:Does "many" = "some?" As in, if I negate "many" is it "none?"
literally reading this exact chapter in the LR bible and a bit confused as well. I don't understand how "some" can equal "all". For example, in the book it says that to negate some, you must use none, because some means 1-100, while none means 0. How does some mean 100?

Maybe I'm just thinking too hard about it and that it won't be a big deal come test day, but still its throwing me off.

Re: "Many" and "Some," quick question

Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2014 4:30 pm
by dkb17xzx

Re: "Many" and "Some," quick question

Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2014 4:52 pm
by 03152016
choward014 wrote:
WaltGrace83 wrote:Does "many" = "some?" As in, if I negate "many" is it "none?"
literally reading this exact chapter in the LR bible and a bit confused as well. I don't understand how "some" can equal "all". For example, in the book it says that to negate some, you must use none, because some means 1-100, while none means 0. How does some mean 100?

Maybe I'm just thinking too hard about it and that it won't be a big deal come test day, but still its throwing me off.
suppose i come up to you and ask if you have a match
it's a binary proposition, you answer yes or no
if you do not have a match, you answer "no"
if you have a match, if you have two matches, if you have several matches, or if you have all the matches in the world, you answer "yes"

that's how some and none work, it's like yes and no
you either have zero "none"
or you have greater than zero "some"
for some, it wouldn't matter if i had one or all, i can still call it some because i'm still answering "yes" to the question

"some" means "greater than zero" so the negation of "some" is "not greater than zero"
in other words, "zero"

"none" means "zero" so the negation of "none" is "not zero"
in other words, "some"
in this case, you don't necessarily know if you have one, many, half, most, all, etc
you just know you have "some" quantity

think: some and none are like yes and no
some encompasses a range of different quantities
but at the end of the day, it just signals that "yes" you have an amount greater than zero

Re: "Many" and "Some," quick question

Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2014 4:56 pm
by 03152016
WaltGrace83 wrote:Does "many" = "some?" As in, if I negate "many" is it "none?"
many does not equal some
many falls under the umbrella of some

think:
if i have many of something, i have some
but if i have some, i don't necessarily have many

to negate, add the word "not"
example: walt has many complaints about my posts
negation: walt does not have many complaints about my posts

in the case of the negation, do i know exactly how many complaints walt has? no
he could have few
he could have none
we don't know
all we know is - he doesn't have many

Re: "Many" and "Some," quick question

Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2014 4:58 pm
by 052220151
many and some are the same

Re: "Many" and "Some," quick question

Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2014 4:58 pm
by 03152016
deputydog wrote:many and some are the same
mehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Re: "Many" and "Some," quick question

Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2014 5:00 pm
by 03152016
Brut wrote:many does not equal some
many falls under the umbrella of some

Re: "Many" and "Some," quick question

Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2014 5:30 pm
by sfoglia
Brut wrote:
choward014 wrote:
WaltGrace83 wrote:Does "many" = "some?" As in, if I negate "many" is it "none?"
literally reading this exact chapter in the LR bible and a bit confused as well. I don't understand how "some" can equal "all". For example, in the book it says that to negate some, you must use none, because some means 1-100, while none means 0. How does some mean 100?

Maybe I'm just thinking too hard about it and that it won't be a big deal come test day, but still its throwing me off.
suppose i come up to you and ask if you have a match
it's a binary proposition, you answer yes or no
if you do not have a match, you answer "no"
if you have a match, if you have two matches, if you have several matches, or if you have all the matches in the world, you answer "yes"

that's how some and none work, it's like yes and no
you either have zero "none"
or you have greater than zero "some"
for some, it wouldn't matter if i had one or all, i can still call it some because i'm still answering "yes" to the question

"some" means "greater than zero" so the negation of "some" is "not greater than zero"
in other words, "zero"

"none" means "zero" so the negation of "none" is "not zero"
in other words, "some"
in this case, you don't necessarily know if you have one, many, half, most, all, etc
you just know you have "some" quantity

think: some and none are like yes and no
some encompasses a range of different quantities
but at the end of the day, it just signals that "yes" you have an amount greater than zero
This is a great explanation.

Re: "Many" and "Some," quick question

Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2014 7:29 pm
by brooklynboy
Pretty much every LSAT question I've seen with the word "many" uses it in a functionally equivalent way to "some."