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Question Difficulty Reversal

Posted: Wed May 28, 2014 8:58 pm
by berkeleynick
I just did the second LR portion of PT 61 and felt that the more difficult questions appeared first and then they got easier in the second half (while the conventional wisdom says easy 10-15 first questions). Is this a trend for the new PTs? I was freaking out about time at the beginning but finished just in time. I went into panic for the first half and it psyched me out.

Re: Question Difficulty Reversal

Posted: Wed May 28, 2014 9:04 pm
by dasani13
berkeleynick wrote:I just did the second LR portion of PT 61 and felt that the more difficult questions appeared first and then they got easier in the second half (while the conventional wisdom says easy 10-15 first questions). Is this a trend for the new PTs? I was freaking out about time at the beginning but finished just in time. I went into panic for the first half and it psyched me out.
I'm not sure if this is a trend but I definitely noticed some tougher/trickier questions than usual in the first 10/15 of PTs 70 and 71.

Re: Question Difficulty Reversal

Posted: Wed May 28, 2014 9:38 pm
by Pneumonia
LSAC is in a constant battle to supersede the advice given by test prep companies. So once the first 10 are easier thing got popular they started throwing harder ones in there to screw with everyone. It's not a full reversal, but it's def harder to do the first "10 in 10 mins" on recent tests then it is on tests in the 50's and before.

Re: Question Difficulty Reversal

Posted: Wed May 28, 2014 9:53 pm
by Tyr
Pneumonia wrote:LSAC is in a constant battle to supersede the advice given by test prep companies. So once the first 10 are easier thing got popular they started throwing harder ones in there to screw with everyone. It's not a full reversal, but it's def harder to do the first "10 in 10 mins" on recent tests then it is on tests in the 50's and before.
So would you say that they are "spreading the difficulty" throughout the section more now than in the past? That wouldn't be so bad. Perhaps make it feel less formulaic.

Re: Question Difficulty Reversal

Posted: Wed May 28, 2014 10:07 pm
by 180kickflip
Is there a specific test (or couple of tests) that you guys would say marks the turning point between the 50s and 60s type tests? Obviously 59-60 is the literal turning point, but I mean stylistically. I just finished 60, and it seemed relatively normal. 10 in 10 was pretty easy, RC not too crazy, etc. I'm wondering if the "60s shift" or whatever happens later.

Re: Question Difficulty Reversal

Posted: Wed May 28, 2014 10:16 pm
by berkeleynick
Pneumonia wrote:LSAC is in a constant battle to supersede the advice given by test prep companies. So once the first 10 are easier thing got popular they started throwing harder ones in there to screw with everyone. It's not a full reversal, but it's def harder to do the first "10 in 10 mins" on recent tests then it is on tests in the 50's and before.
They totally would. Bastards! Lol. (J/k LSAC folk, I love you all!)

Re: Question Difficulty Reversal

Posted: Wed May 28, 2014 10:18 pm
by Clyde Frog
berkeleynick wrote:I just did the second LR portion of PT 61 and felt that the more difficult questions appeared first and then they got easier in the second half (while the conventional wisdom says easy 10-15 first questions). Is this a trend for the new PTs? I was freaking out about time at the beginning but finished just in time. I went into panic for the first half and it psyched me out.
Actually the last four questions in that section were the most missed. The first 15 were actually on the easy side.

Re: Question Difficulty Reversal

Posted: Wed May 28, 2014 10:25 pm
by dasani13
Clyde Frog wrote:
berkeleynick wrote:I just did the second LR portion of PT 61 and felt that the more difficult questions appeared first and then they got easier in the second half (while the conventional wisdom says easy 10-15 first questions). Is this a trend for the new PTs? I was freaking out about time at the beginning but finished just in time. I went into panic for the first half and it psyched me out.
Actually the last four questions in that section were the most missed. The first 15 were actually on the easy side.
Most missed = most difficult? What if people spent too much time on the first 15 and didn't get to the last 4.

Re: Question Difficulty Reversal

Posted: Wed May 28, 2014 10:44 pm
by Clyde Frog
dasani13 wrote:
Clyde Frog wrote:
berkeleynick wrote:I just did the second LR portion of PT 61 and felt that the more difficult questions appeared first and then they got easier in the second half (while the conventional wisdom says easy 10-15 first questions). Is this a trend for the new PTs? I was freaking out about time at the beginning but finished just in time. I went into panic for the first half and it psyched me out.
Actually the last four questions in that section were the most missed. The first 15 were actually on the easy side.
Most missed = most difficult? What if people spent too much time on the first 15 and didn't get to the last 4.
I took the test also. The only question in the first 15 that I would consider somewhat difficult is #5. This isn't an anomaly on the LSAT as they have since the test came out sometimes put a difficult question at the beginning of a section. The fish, paper mill, dioxin question which is considered the hardest LR question ever came early in the section at #12.