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Anyone tried The Fox LSAT Logical Reasoning Encyclopedia

Posted: Mon May 26, 2014 10:29 am
by AbhiJ
Has anyone tried The Fox LSAT Logical Reasoning Encyclopedia: Disrespecting the LSAT by Nathan Fox ?

It is full of rave reviews on Amazon.

http://www.amazon.com/LSAT-Logical-Reas ... 1479391271

Re: Anyone tried The Fox LSAT Logical Reasoning Encyclopedia

Posted: Mon May 26, 2014 11:16 am
by vracovino
The reviews seem kinda fake to me.

Re: Anyone tried The Fox LSAT Logical Reasoning Encyclopedia

Posted: Mon May 26, 2014 3:31 pm
by Clyde Frog
He related to Desert Fox?

Re: Anyone tried The Fox LSAT Logical Reasoning Encyclopedia

Posted: Tue May 27, 2014 1:20 am
by LauraS
I haven't gotten the book, but I know a bit about him. He has tons of rave reviews on yelp in the Bay Area, FWIW.

His approach to teaching the LSAT is just to jump in and solve problems like he's taking the test himself. He tells you what he's thinking, how he's attacking them.

It's quite different from the approach of most of the prep materials we know and love, where they explain material in a top-down, organized way. You can see some Amazon reviewers complain about this.

But you can learn A LOT from seeing a pro like Nathan attack a test. Mike does this sometimes in his Trainer, and it's really beneficial, in my opinion.

You can get a sense of Nathan's approach by signing up for his free course, where you see him go over five LSATs (not every question in each test):

http://www.foxlsat.com/online-lsat-course/

(under the "Enroll Now" button, you'll see a link to sign up for the free course).

Even if you're not thinking of buying his books, you may want to check out his free course. I watched the intro and one test several months ago, and I found them helpful. (Note: I'm a tutor, so I'm interested in things you wouldn't necessarily care about, like how he presents the material and interacts with the class. Still, I think the course is worth checking out.)

Re: Anyone tried The Fox LSAT Logical Reasoning Encyclopedia

Posted: Tue May 27, 2014 3:03 am
by AbhiJ
LauraS wrote:I haven't gotten the book, but I know a bit about him. He has tons of rave reviews on yelp in the Bay Area, FWIW.

His approach to teaching the LSAT is just to jump in and solve problems like he's taking the test himself. He tells you what he's thinking, how he's attacking them.

It's quite different from the approach of most of the prep materials we know and love, where they explain material in a top-down, organized way. You can see some Amazon reviewers complain about this.

But you can learn A LOT from seeing a pro like Nathan attack a test. Mike does this sometimes in his Trainer, and it's really beneficial, in my opinion.

You can get a sense of Nathan's approach by signing up for his free course, where you see him go over five LSATs (not every question in each test):

http://www.foxlsat.com/online-lsat-course/

(under the "Enroll Now" button, you'll see a link to sign up for the free course).

Even if you're not thinking of buying his books, you may want to check out his free course. I watched the intro and one test several months ago, and I found them helpful. (Note: I'm prepping to be a tutor, so I'm interested in things you wouldn't necessarily care about, like how he presents the material and interacts with the class. Still, I think the course is worth checking out.)
Thanks for the elaborate reply.

Re: Anyone tried The Fox LSAT Logical Reasoning Encyclopedia

Posted: Tue May 27, 2014 3:08 am
by jkhalfa
vracovino wrote:The reviews seem kinda fake to me.
They're kinda over-glowing.

Also, this seriously worries me (from the Amazon page):
Fox wrote:I ... scored 179. In 2008, I enrolled at UC Hastings Law. It was the best school within biking distance from my home

Re: Anyone tried The Fox LSAT Logical Reasoning Encyclopedia

Posted: Tue May 27, 2014 3:17 am
by Clyde Frog
LauraS wrote:I haven't gotten the book, but I know a bit about him. He has tons of rave reviews on yelp in the Bay Area, FWIW.

His approach to teaching the LSAT is just to jump in and solve problems like he's taking the test himself. He tells you what he's thinking, how he's attacking them.

It's quite different from the approach of most of the prep materials we know and love, where they explain material in a top-down, organized way. You can see some Amazon reviewers complain about this.

But you can learn A LOT from seeing a pro like Nathan attack a test. Mike does this sometimes in his Trainer, and it's really beneficial, in my opinion.

You can get a sense of Nathan's approach by signing up for his free course, where you see him go over five LSATs (not every question in each test):

http://www.foxlsat.com/online-lsat-course/

(under the "Enroll Now" button, you'll see a link to sign up for the free course).

Even if you're not thinking of buying his books, you may want to check out his free course. I watched the intro and one test several months ago, and I found them helpful. (Note: I'm prepping to be a tutor, so I'm interested in things you wouldn't necessarily care about, like how he presents the material and interacts with the class. Still, I think the course is worth checking out.)
Is someone holding a gun to your head?

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Posted: Tue May 27, 2014 4:07 am
by MistakenGenius
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Re: Anyone tried The Fox LSAT Logical Reasoning Encyclopedia

Posted: Tue May 27, 2014 6:36 am
by AbhiJ
Amazon.com displays this book with "The LSAT Trainer" under Frequently brought together section.
The price of the book is 75 USD. This makes it the most expensive LR strategy guide by a big margin.
lawschooli.com recommends this book.
Whether these 3 points makes the LR Encyclopedia any valuable is another LR problem :).

Re: Anyone tried The Fox LSAT Logical Reasoning Encyclopedia

Posted: Tue May 27, 2014 7:53 am
by LauraS
I'm definitely not Nathan. I don't even know him.

I didn't mean to sound like a fan girl. I don't know Nathan's work well enough for that.

If you're still undecided, you have an option: get the Kindle version and see if you like it. If you don't, you can get a refund within 7 days. (It's an easy, automatic process.)

The book has 550 questions from PTs 40 - 60. Working through the book means that you'll have seen a bunch of the LR questions from PTs 50 - 60. That may not be so great if you'd planned on taking them as full, timed tests. (Some people I respect around here don't think that would be is a problem.)

Re: Anyone tried The Fox LSAT Logical Reasoning Encyclopedia

Posted: Tue May 27, 2014 8:58 am
by Tyr
The reviews match some of his marketing language from his websites/books word for word. Also, I bought his "Exposing the LSAT" book. It is about as useful for LSAT prep as kindle wood. As far as his Reasoning Encyclopedia goes, I've never seen it. Hopefully it is better than his other prep books.