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I studied X hours and I got a Y.

Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2014 8:38 pm
by stef1330
Okay so this is how this works. If you studied for the LSAT and know the number of hours that you studied, this is for you. Comment below saying

"I studied 300 hours and I got a 170" or whatever.

Do not say
"I studied for 3 years and I got a 170"

We are using the measurement of HOURS.

If you don't know how many hours you studied, then you don't have to comment below.



I'm trying to find some data trends here. Thank you all!!

Re: I studied X hours and I got a Y.

Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2014 8:49 pm
by rpupkin
I studied for 9 months and I got a 174.

Re: I studied X hours and I got a Y.

Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2014 8:59 pm
by mirroroferised7
First time, Dec. 2012:

Studied around 48-60 hours, got a 168

Second time, Oct 2013:

Studied around 30 hours, got a 170.

Third time, Feb. 2014:

Studied around 45 hours, got a ???? (PT's in the 174-175 range, with a few 177-178)

Will update/edit when I have my actual score.

Re: I studied X hours and I got a Y.

Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2014 9:02 pm
by Sacred Cow
I studied for 333 hours and got a 175.

Re: I studied X hours and I got a Y.

Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2014 9:21 pm
by WaltGrace83
stef1330 wrote:Okay so this is how this works. If you studied for the LSAT and know the number of hours that you studied, this is for you. Comment below saying

"I studied 300 hours and I got a 170" or whatever.

Do not say
"I studied for 3 years and I got a 170"

We are using the measurement of HOURS.

If you don't know how many hours you studied, then you don't have to comment below.



I'm trying to find some data trends here. Thank you all!!
There are none.

Re: I studied X hours and I got a Y.

Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2014 10:26 pm
by Gravitas
I doubt you are going to find any sort of "trends" except that people who score well also tend to study.

However there are tons people who study for hundreds of hours who still can't break 165. Conversely, you'll have people (albeit very few) who put in ten hours and make 175+. Different people have different strengths/weaknesses and will improve at different paces.

I put about 200 hours moving from a 164 to a 170, but I spent a lot of that time taking PTs and not reviewing them properly. It took me a while to figure out how to meaningfully study. Remember, quality of studying trumps quantity of studying.

Re: I studied X hours and I got a Y.

Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2014 10:32 pm
by stef1330
I couldn't agree with you more but I have to think that outside of outliers there has to be a sort of trend.

Keep em coming guys!

Re: I studied X hours and I got a Y.

Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 12:30 am
by Jeffort
stef1330 wrote:I couldn't agree with you more but I have to think that outside of outliers there has to be a sort of trend.

Keep em coming guys!
Everyone that makes a significant improvement to a high score from lower than 160s starting cold diag score studies a LOT to get there. Since it is subjective, study hours needed for certain goals range widely, in the hundreds of hours for many to get to mid/high 160s.

High scoring naturals/super fast LSAT learners that can get away with few hours of prep know who they are right away because it happens/becomes obvious right away within a few tests worth of materials no matter what if any prep is done other than just working the questions and checking the answer key. If you've been prepping for at least two weeks and don't know whether you are one of these people or not yet, you aren't. This is pretty much almost everyone, the rumored naturals are pretty rare.

Those are the only trends that are important to know. If you are shooting for a significant score improvement, count on putting in a lot of hours over several months or more depending on target score. There is no way to shortcut study time without lowering your goal other than making sure you study properly so that it's quality prep time used efficiently. There are plenty of bad ways to waste available LSAT study hours.

There is no general one size fits all mathematical LSAT prep formula that accurately translates number of prep hours into number of points score increase in case that is what you're trying to figure out. Everyone is different and learns at different rates, you have to figure out how quickly YOU are able to improve once you get started so that you can then more accurately evaluate your timeline goals.

Re: I studied X hours and I got a Y.

Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 12:39 am
by Archangel
stef1330 wrote:Okay so this is how this works. If you studied for the LSAT and know the number of hours that you studied, this is for you. Comment below saying

"I studied 300 hours and I got a 170" or whatever.

Do not say
"I studied for 3 years and I got a 170"

We are using the measurement of HOURS.

If you don't know how many hours you studied, then you don't have to comment below.



I'm trying to find some data trends here. Thank you all!!
rpupkin wrote:I studied for 9 months and I got a 174.
:D

Re: I studied X hours and I got a Y.

Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 1:50 pm
by BPlaura
I'm pretty sure I've seen you ask similar questions here before. Honestly, no one's going to be able to tell you how many hours you should study to get the score you want. There are too many variables, such as quality of studying, starting score, methods used to study (and their efficacy), individual abilities, etc. I'd suggest that you stop focusing on the number of hours spent studying, because it's not a very useful metric.

Edit: However, since you asked, I'd estimate that I spent 150 hours studying (including time spent in a prep class), and I got a 178.

Re: I studied X hours and I got a Y.

Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 2:10 pm
by Cerebro
I studied all night and I got a rash.

Re: I studied X hours and I got a Y.

Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 3:53 pm
by stef1330
Y'all are some trolls. I was gonna make a spread sheet and everything:(

Re: I studied X hours and I got a Y.

Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 4:02 pm
by zhenders
stef1330 wrote:Y'all are some trolls. I was gonna make a spread sheet and everything:(
lol. This was adorably sad to read.

Re: I studied X hours and I got a Y.

Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 4:06 pm
by whereskyle
Studied 200 hours:

159----->170

Re: I studied X hours and I got a Y.

Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 4:10 pm
by Lwoods1020
rpupkin wrote:I studied for 9 months and I got a 174.
I studied around 300 hours over 4.5 months and got a 159... i choked

Re: I studied X hours and I got a Y.

Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 5:55 pm
by rebexness
stef1330 wrote:Y'all are some trolls. I was gonna make a spread sheet and everything:(
Spend that time reading the varying study guides. It will pay off a million times more than making spreadsheets of anecdotal data.

Re: I studied X hours and I got a Y.

Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 7:53 pm
by Grond
Including 2 PTs, about 10 hours. 174.

Re: I studied X hours and I got a Y.

Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 8:55 pm
by Pneumonia
Grond wrote:Including 2 PTs, about 10 hours. 174.
see OP? this is why anecdotes are useless.

Re: I studied X hours and I got a Y.

Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 9:20 pm
by Nova
I have no idea how many hours I studied.

Re: I studied X hours and I got a Y.

Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 9:40 pm
by stef1330
Welllllpp looks like I'm gonna pack mah bags an go home

Re: I studied X hours and I got a Y.

Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 2:58 pm
by Mack.Hambleton
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Re: I studied X hours and I got a Y.

Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 5:19 pm
by cahwc12
BPlaura wrote:I'm pretty sure I've seen you ask similar questions here before. Honestly, no one's going to be able to tell you how many hours you should study to get the score you want. There are too many variables, such as quality of studying, starting score, methods used to study (and their efficacy), individual abilities, etc. I'd suggest that you stop focusing on the number of hours spent studying, because it's not a very useful metric.

Edit: However, since you asked, I'd estimate that I spent 150 hours studying (including time spent in a prep class), and I got a 178.
Bingo, this is one of those 'help me justify my laziness please' threads.

Everyone's starting point is different, so the "I studied X hours and got Y" isn't going to have much value.

Re: I studied X hours and I got a Y.

Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 8:23 pm
by Jeffort
cahwc12 wrote:
BPlaura wrote:I'm pretty sure I've seen you ask similar questions here before. Honestly, no one's going to be able to tell you how many hours you should study to get the score you want. There are too many variables, such as quality of studying, starting score, methods used to study (and their efficacy), individual abilities, etc. I'd suggest that you stop focusing on the number of hours spent studying, because it's not a very useful metric.

Edit: However, since you asked, I'd estimate that I spent 150 hours studying (including time spent in a prep class), and I got a 178.
Bingo, this is one of those 'help me justify my laziness please' threads.

Everyone's starting point is different, so the "I studied X hours and got Y" isn't going to have much value.
Yeah, this is just another one of the super common "What's the least amount of prep I need to do to get a high score?" threads.

At least half of the threads new users start shortly after deciding to start LSAT prep have the same basic underling premise of "What are the time/effort/study time saving shortcuts and tricks to easily get a high score without putting in a lot of time and effort? / What's the easiest and fastest way to a 170+? / I cannot wait and HAVE to take the XYZ[month] LSAT and apply this year, how do I get to 170+ in X amount of weeks/months for the [month] LSAT?" It's the basic attitude/mindset that is largely responsible for why 50% of people that ever take the LSAT score below 151 on test day.