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redskinsgibbs wrote:People lie on message boards. They claim i got this score for crediblity for people to read their post. If they said i got a 158 who would care what they would say?

TITCR

It is common knowledge that at least 70% of LSAT test takers score between 145-160, so for this many people to have scored 167+ to post on this board presents a statistical anomaly. The truth of the matter is that its basically common sense what people need to do to score well on the LSAT, but many people lack the willpower to commit themselves to a regular prep regimen.

I don't know how much I believe that. Why would people lie to impress complete online strangers?

Also, if that is true, the whole TLS Stats thing is useless. LSN might be more accurate because there is no forum attached and thus no one to impress, by your theory.

TITCR? Statistical anomaly? Think again.

I say that yalls assumptions are unwarranted. The ppl who score high could be much more inclined to post on message boards. Also, all these ppl who post a lot are not all taking the same test... indeed high scorers could be more likely to stick around the forum and help others out.

In fact, I found this website after I got my LSAT score, because I was trying to find out if perfect scores were common. If I'd gotten a 170, I'm sure I'd still have no idea about TLS or LSN.

flywhiteguy wrote:I don't know how much I believe that. Why would people lie to impress complete online strangers?

Also, if that is true, the whole TLS Stats thing is useless. LSN might be more accurate because there is no forum attached and thus no one to impress, by your theory.

Under that line of logic, people wouldn't create flame or troll posts in internet forums either, but there are plenty of flames and trolls in this forum. Why would people try to annoy or anger complete online strangers?

goldengaff wrote:TITCR? Statistical anomaly? Think again.

I say that yalls assumptions are unwarranted. The ppl who score high could be much more inclined to post on message boards. Also, all these ppl who post a lot are not all taking the same test... indeed high scorers could be more likely to stick around the forum and help others out.

I have a 175 and this is the truth. I also operate under 5 more names on this site--all of them have scored 170+

I would like to give my two cents to anyone that thinks a 20+ point increase is impossible.

After scoring a 145 on my first practice, which was the 2007 exam off lsac.org, I was pretty discouraged, and I didn't think I would be able to improve my score more than 4 or 5 points due to the type of questions the LSAT asks. It has been three months since, and I now score as high as 168 and 173, with an average around 164-166 after about 30 practice tests. I would like to increase this average even further, of course, but I think a 20 point improvement over three months is pretty stellar.

Reading practice and attention to detail are key. Learn what you overlooked on questions you answered incorrectly.

Lyrrad wrote:Yes. http://www.lsatproctor.com/

I found it helpful to get my timing down and to know what to expect on test day. Previous to that I was using an online stopwatch to time myself.

mormondem32 wrote:I would like to give my two cents to anyone that thinks a 20+ point increase is impossible.

After scoring a 145 on my first practice, which was the 2007 exam off lsac.org, I was pretty discouraged, and I didn't think I would be able to improve my score more than 4 or 5 points due to the type of questions the LSAT asks. It has been three months since, and I now score as high as 168 and 173, with an average around 164-166 after about 30 practice tests. I would like to increase this average even further, of course, but I think a 20 point improvement over three months is pretty stellar.

Reading practice and attention to detail are key. Learn what you overlooked on questions you answered incorrectly.

That is quite the impressive improvement eh

helpmeplz91 wrote:

Lyrrad wrote:Yes. http://www.lsatproctor.com/

I found it helpful to get my timing down and to know what to expect on test day. Previous to that I was using an online stopwatch to time myself.

mormondem32 wrote:I would like to give my two cents to anyone that thinks a 20+ point increase is impossible.

After scoring a 145 on my first practice, which was the 2007 exam off lsac.org, I was pretty discouraged, and I didn't think I would be able to improve my score more than 4 or 5 points due to the type of questions the LSAT asks. It has been three months since, and I now score as high as 168 and 173, with an average around 164-166 after about 30 practice tests. I would like to increase this average even further, of course, but I think a 20 point improvement over three months is pretty stellar.

Reading practice and attention to detail are key. Learn what you overlooked on questions you answered incorrectly.

That is quite the impressive improvement eh

well it was the very first time i had seen one of the practice tests. I think 145 at 30 minutes per section wasn't too bad, given the circumstances.

mormondem32 wrote:

helpmeplz91 wrote:

Lyrrad wrote:Yes. http://www.lsatproctor.com/

I found it helpful to get my timing down and to know what to expect on test day. Previous to that I was using an online stopwatch to time myself.

mormondem32 wrote:I would like to give my two cents to anyone that thinks a 20+ point increase is impossible.

After scoring a 145 on my first practice, which was the 2007 exam off lsac.org, I was pretty discouraged, and I didn't think I would be able to improve my score more than 4 or 5 points due to the type of questions the LSAT asks. It has been three months since, and I now score as high as 168 and 173, with an average around 164-166 after about 30 practice tests. I would like to increase this average even further, of course, but I think a 20 point improvement over three months is pretty stellar.

Reading practice and attention to detail are key. Learn what you overlooked on questions you answered incorrectly.

That is quite the impressive improvement eh

well it was the very first time i had seen one of the practice tests. I think 145 at 30 minutes per section wasn't too bad, given the circumstances.

You should make another post detailing exactly how you did it mormondem!

I think the major contributor to my low score was my ignorance of the test. After my first diagnostic I went through and figured out why i got certain questions wrong. This trained my brain to analyze things differently and get into 'logic game' mode. On my second test I bumped all the way up to 157, I believe. Its all about practice and understanding different logic puzzles you might encounter.

I said in a past post that RC has been my struggle. It is what is keeping me from breaking 170, but I read a lot more now, and am working on increasing me comprehension and speed.

My biggest recommendation is start preparing as early as possible to reach your full potential.

Isn't there such thing as too early though?

helpmeplz91 wrote:Isn't there such thing as too early though?

how can there be?

goldengaff wrote:

helpmeplz91 wrote:Isn't there such thing as too early though?

how can there be?

running out of material, burn out, etc.

helpmeplz91 wrote:

goldengaff wrote:

helpmeplz91 wrote:Isn't there such thing as too early though?

how can there be?

running out of material, burn out, etc.

that is why you start early. So you don't burn out. You spread it all out into little chunks rather than one big burnout study session on the home stretch.

Bangalmafia wrote:Maybe you were just born with it?

Maybe it's Maybelline.

yolanda32 wrote:

mormondem32 wrote:

Lyrrad wrote:Yes. http://www.lsatproctor.com/

I found it helpful to get my timing down and to know what to expect on test day. Previous to that I was using an online stopwatch to time myself.

mormondem32 wrote:I would like to give my two cents to anyone that thinks a 20+ point increase is impossible.

After scoring a 145 on my first practice, which was the 2007 exam off lsac.org, I was pretty discouraged, and I didn't think I would be able to improve my score more than 4 or 5 points due to the type of questions the LSAT asks. It has been three months since, and I now score as high as 168 and 173, with an average around 164-166 after about 30 practice tests. I would like to increase this average even further, of course, but I think a 20 point improvement over three months is pretty stellar.

Reading practice and attention to detail are key. Learn what you overlooked on questions you answered incorrectly.

well it was the very first time i had seen one of the practice tests. I think 145 at 30 minutes per section wasn't too bad, given the circumstances.

You should make another post detailing exactly how you did it mormondem!

Did you use the RC Bible?

My diagnostic - 151, my last PT befeore the Oct test - 177. You guys can DO this! Just put in the time, stay determined, but most importantly be confident in your ability.

helpmeplz91 wrote:
Did you use the RC Bible?

Not yet. I will probably get both the RC and LG bible and take a RC psychology class they have at my uni.

mormondem32 wrote:

helpmeplz91 wrote:
Did you use the RC Bible?

Not yet. I will probably get both the RC and LG bible and take a RC psychology class they have at my uni.

Where do you go? I have never heard of such a class.

yolanda32 wrote: Where do you go? I have never heard of such a class.

Utah State.

I scored a 168 on my first diagnostic (as a college freshman). I attribute this in large part to childhood--my parents wouldn't let me watch TV, so I spent elementary and middle school reading ALL THE TIME. By the time I got to high school, my critical reading skills were pretty amazing through literally no intentional effort at all on my part (I also got a perfect score on the verbal SATs--let's not talk about the math ).

The LSAT is really all about reading and synthesizing information as quickly and accurately as possible. I think this is a skill that can be taught, but I agree with the OP that the best way to do it is to read as much as possible. Start with fiction books to get yourself into the habit of reading so much, then work your way up.

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redskinsgibbs wrote:People lie on message boards. They claim i got this score for crediblity for people to read their post. If they said i got a 158 who would care what they would say?

They would care if the advice the person provided was valid.

vasiok wrote:

redskinsgibbs wrote:People lie on message boards. They claim i got this score for crediblity for people to read their post. If they said i got a 158 who would care what they would say?

They would care if the advice the person provided was valid.

Yeah I dont know, I don't really care how people on the message boards see me so I tell the truth. Maybe others do.