The Official June 2014 Study Group Forum

[alexrodriguez]

Is this real life?

You are the most annoying person I have came across on this forum.

[the_pakalypse]

Dude why the hell are you not just drilling?

I have no idea why you're doing PTs so early in the game. You're wasting valuable drilling material. You shouldn't even be thinking about PTs for the next 4 months.You need to become a master at each question, each sub-question, each answer choice before you start taking PTs -- especially if you are willing to put in so much time.

I see this over and over again, but you don't become a better basketball player by playing full on games every day. You have to work on the dribbling, passing, shooting, zone defence, 1-on-1 situations etc. You need to break this test down to its essential core. You must see how each answer choice is wrong. You must see how incredibly consistent LR questions are. The LSAT is one big pattern and if you have so much time, you should be spending more than 75 percent of it on review.

I know why you are doing the PT -- you want that sweet, sweet ego boost of knowing that you have improved -- but you need to resist that temptation because an improvement of 1-2 points doesn't mean shit this early in the game. Drill, drill, drill.

[alexrodriguez]

Dude why the hell are you not just drilling?

you don't become a better basketball player by playing full on games every day. You have to work on the dribbling, passing, shooting, zone defence, 1-on-1 situations etc.

I do all this throughout the week.

Mondays are for dribbling.
Tuesdays are for passing.
Wednesday are for shooting.
Thursdays are for zone defence.
Friday is for 1-on-1 situations.
Saturday is for a comprehensive review.

Sunday I put it to the test.

Do this every week for a year and you're golden.

[myscoreonmysleeve]

Is this real life?

You are the most annoying person I have came across on this forum.

A ubiquitous DITTO... trust me.

[alexrodriguez]

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1. Scandk

*Every sunday we will be taking a practice test. On monday or directly after we will post our scores and discuss the exam. (I'm in a different time zone, so I'll probably be the first to post.)

June 30 - PT 10
July 7 - PT 11
July 14 - PT 12
July 28 - PT 13
August 4 - PT 14
August 11 - PT 15
August 18 - PT 16
August 25 - PT 18
September 1 - PT 29
September 8 - PT 30
September 15 - PT 31
September 22 - PT 32
September 29 - PT 33
October 6 - PT 34
October 13 - PT 35
October 20 -PT 36
Ocotber 27 - PT 37
November 3 - PT 38
November 10 - PT 39
November 17 - PT 40
November 24 - PT 41
December 1 - PT 42
December 8 - PT 43
December 15 - PT 44
December 22 - PT 45
December 29 - PT 46
January 5 - PT 47
January 12 - PT 48
January 19 - PT 49
January 26 - PT 50
February 2 - PT 51
February 9 - PT 52
February 16 - PT 53
February 23 - PT 54
March 2 - PT 55
March 9 - PT 56
March 16 - PT 57
March 23 - PT 58
March 30 - PT 59
April 6 - PT 60
April 13 - PT 61
April 20 - PT 62
April 27 - PT 63
May 4 - PT 64
May 11 - PT 65
May 18 - PT 66
May 25 - PT 67
June 1 - PT 68
June 8 - PT 69

Preptest 19-28 will be the bulk of the material you will use to drill.

I made some more changes. If you buy Steve Schwartz' 7 month study plan you'll be drilling from preptests 19 through 28, so I took these out of the Sunday PT routine.

[the_pakalypse]

Okay, cool. At least you are drilling a bit.

But what do you hope to gain by doing PTs 10-38? Endurance/confidence in taking 5 sections/?? You can learn those things and become perfect at them just by doing PT 45-69 & PT from June 2007. I would drill PT 1-38 by question time (buy cambridge). Then I would do individual sections drilling (38-44, SPA, SPB, SPC) until I became comfortable with section timing as a whole.

Also, I know you are not going to listen to me because you think you are special and you have some sort of commitment that most people cannot replicate, but you WILL get burned out. Trust me. If you are studying for 12 months make sure you have a break of at least a month in there (maybe split up) in some way. Plus you should not be studying 7 days a week to start with.. that's ludicrous.

[alexrodriguez]

I'm trying to look at this exam like it's a sport or a video game. I'm trying to get myself into the mindset of wanting to play it all the time. I want to be the best. I want a 180.

[TheMostDangerousLG]

I'm trying to look at this exam like it's a sport or a video game. I'm trying to get myself into the mindset of wanting to play it all the time. I want to be the best. I want a 180.

Put that enthusiasm into actually studying.

[Daily_Double]

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[myscoreonmysleeve]

I'm trying to look at this exam like it's a sport or a video game. I'm trying to get myself into the mindset of wanting to play it all the time. I want to be the best. I want a 180.

You were actually a pretty funny troll at points (in the personal statement). Those "jew" remarks and the length of your trolling endeavor, though...

I can't decide which scenario would be worse: the real poster or the troll. Doesn't it get old (either one)?

[alexrodriguez]

I'm trying to look at this exam like it's a sport or a video game. I'm trying to get myself into the mindset of wanting to play it all the time. I want to be the best. I want a 180.

Put that enthusiasm into actually studying.

I only use this forum when I'm at work.

[alexrodriguez]

Who wants to guess what I'll score on preptest 10 this Sunday?

I'd like to think I'll be between 151-155.

I won't be surprised if it's more like a 146 or something.

I'm so panicky with the logic games.

[TheMostDangerousLG]

Who wants to guess what I'll score on preptest 10 this Sunday?

I'd like to think I'll be between 151-155.

I won't be surprised if it's more like a 146 or something.

I'm so panicky with the logic games.

Why are you doing preptests right now, and why are you that preptest?

You are wasting your own time and the time of everyone you ask advice of. Although I'm sure that in two weeks you'll just pretend this was an elaborate trolling.

[alexrodriguez]

Well I'm about a year out from the real test. I figured I'd start with PT 10 because of this reason. I think learning to evolve with the test as it adapts to its current format would be beneficial. Maybe I'm wrong and I should listen to my critics, but these critics or more personally "you," have not provided adequate reasoning for this viewpoint.

[Nova]

You dont understand the material well enough for full PTs to be a good/efficient use of your time/material.

No sense in burning through 100 perfectly good questions like that before you finish the guides and are comfortable with the question types.

[Nova]

Who wants to guess what I'll score on preptest 10 this Sunday?

152

[magickware]

Maybe I'm wrong and I should listen to my critics, but these critics or more personally "you," have not provided adequate reasoning for this viewpoint.

What exactly do you expect to hear for reasoning besides "This worked for me/various personal experience stuff"?

And you're wrong. You're more or less doing what I did when I started prep for my first test, and I bombed spectacularly. You will do the same, I expect.

[myscoreonmysleeve]

Maybe I'm wrong and I should listen to my critics, but these critics or more personally "you," have not provided adequate reasoning for this viewpoint.

What exactly do you expect to hear for reasoning besides "This worked for me/various personal experience stuff"?

And you're wrong. You're more or less doing what I did when I started prep for my first test, and I bombed spectacularly. You will do the same, I expect.

My experience: improvement happens in extensive review of missed questions or those that gave you trouble (took too long or caused you to linger). Of course if I hadn't nailed conditional reasoning, assumptions, quantitative reasoning (some/most --there almost always seems to be at least one in contemporary lr sections), game diagraming, etc., then review would have been pointless. Maybe OP's strategy reflects a fear of running out of preptests? I ended up going over many games twice, I didn't really space everything out, and I modified preptests to be 5 sections. I basically saw the most improvement doing 10the over the span of two weeks with review. Did anyone else see rewards from a similar method?

[myscoreonmysleeve]

Fat fingers, posting on phone. Forgive the autopredict.

[myscoreonmysleeve]

Who wants to guess what I'll score on preptest 10 this Sunday?

I'd like to think I'll be between 151-155.

I won't be surprised if it's more like a 146 or something.

I'm so panicky with the logic games.

Why are you doing preptests right now, and why are you that preptest?

You are wasting your own time and the time of everyone you ask advice of. Although I'm sure that in two weeks you'll just pretend this was an elaborate trolling.

OP's a liar and a whore. I don't mind wasting time, sadly, waiting for my score, but plenty of visitors will be disserviced by this ...whatever he is. Or she.

[alexrodriguez]

If I completely fail then I will stop this nonsense of taking a PT every Sunday.

Honestly, I just feel like it's the only way for me to make progress.

I need this to work out. I want and need to go to law school.

My life is riding on this idea of being an attorney.

I'm getting out of the Navy with all my eggs in this basket. I have a lot to lose if this doesn't work out.

[magickware]

Then wouldn't it make sense to listen to people who made the same mistakes, or people who have (presumably) gotten very good scores on the LSAT instead of gunning it your way?

The LSAT is a learnable test, but emphasis needs to be on learn. There's a lot to learn, and taking PTs without first learning is pointless. It's like saying I can get better at my (insert random course here) final by just taking every final ever released for that course.

[jas1503]

I need this to work out. I want and need to go to law school.

My life is riding on this idea of being an attorney.

I'm getting out of the Navy with all my eggs in this basket. I have a lot to lose if this doesn't work out.

ETA: Goodluck OP

[Nova]

Then wouldn't it make sense to listen to people who made the same mistakes, or people who have (presumably) gotten very good scores on the LSAT instead of gunning it your way?

Exactly

[Daily_Double]

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