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I made my own Flaw question, check it out

Posted: Sun May 12, 2013 12:09 pm
by itachiuchiha
A TLSer with a 3.9 GPA and 160 LSAT posted on TLS asking for advice on law school admissions to a top 50 school. The response he received was to retake the LSAT or don't go to law school.

The argument of the TLS responder's reasoning is most vulnerable to criticism on which one of the following grounds?

(A) The argument fails to recognize that the student may receive admission to a top 50 school.
(B) The argument fails to consider that the student is a bad test taker and will not score above a 160, regardless of how much they study.
(C) The argument cites irrelevant evidence.
(D) The argument assumes what it sets out to prove.
(E) The argument concludes that a claim about a causal connection is false on the basis of a lack of evidence for the claim.

Don't bash me because this is a shitty question, I'm only human. The intent is to poke fun of the assumption of many TLSers.

Re: I made my own Flaw question, check it out

Posted: Sun May 12, 2013 12:29 pm
by Bildungsroman
(F) The advice is not flawed.

Re: I made my own Flaw question, check it out

Posted: Sun May 12, 2013 12:37 pm
by rad lulz
this is crap

Re: I made my own Flaw question, check it out

Posted: Sun May 12, 2013 12:39 pm
by Mal Reynolds
You're an idiot.

Re: I made my own Flaw question, check it out

Posted: Sun May 12, 2013 12:47 pm
by dr123
retake

Re: I made my own Flaw question, check it out

Posted: Sun May 12, 2013 7:10 pm
by itachiuchiha
hahahhahahahahaha, somehow I knew that these would be the type of responses that i would get LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Re: I made my own Flaw question, check it out

Posted: Sun May 12, 2013 7:27 pm
by Micdiddy
I don't see how any of these answers are right from YOUR perspective. C comes the closest, but the stimulus didn't mention responders providing evidence, so that can't be the flaw.

Eta: actually "don't go to law school" is pretty relevant no matter which way you swing it. B can't be right because "don't go to law school" is considering the test taker can't score above 160. D can't be right because no one "assumes op should retake or don't go" in order to conclude "op should retake or don't go."
Oh I get it, you wrote a flawed question, not a flaw question.

Re: I made my own Flaw question, check it out

Posted: Sun May 12, 2013 7:30 pm
by ManOfTheMinute
itachiuchiha wrote:hahahhahahahahaha, somehow I knew that these would be the type of responses that i would get LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOO
You are brilliant

Re: I made my own Flaw question, check it out

Posted: Sun May 12, 2013 7:34 pm
by txdude45
Micdiddy wrote:Oh I get it, you wrote a flawed question, not a flaw question.

Re: I made my own Flaw question, check it out

Posted: Sun May 12, 2013 7:50 pm
by Richie Tenenbaum
dr123 wrote:retake

Re: I made my own Flaw question, check it out

Posted: Sun May 12, 2013 8:50 pm
by itachiuchiha
Micdiddy wrote:I don't see how any of these answers are right from YOUR perspective. C comes the closest, but the stimulus didn't mention responders providing evidence, so that can't be the flaw.

Eta: actually "don't go to law school" is pretty relevant no matter which way you swing it. B can't be right because "don't go to law school" is considering the test taker can't score above 160. D can't be right because no one "assumes op should retake or don't go" in order to conclude "op should retake or don't go."
Oh I get it, you wrote a flawed question, not a flaw question.
indeed i did! indeed i did. the question wasn't meant to be answered really. just to troll some tlsers

Re: I made my own Flaw question, check it out

Posted: Sun May 12, 2013 8:57 pm
by Mal Reynolds
itachiuchiha wrote:
Micdiddy wrote:I don't see how any of these answers are right from YOUR perspective. C comes the closest, but the stimulus didn't mention responders providing evidence, so that can't be the flaw.

Eta: actually "don't go to law school" is pretty relevant no matter which way you swing it. B can't be right because "don't go to law school" is considering the test taker can't score above 160. D can't be right because no one "assumes op should retake or don't go" in order to conclude "op should retake or don't go."
Oh I get it, you wrote a flawed question, not a flaw question.
indeed i did! indeed i did. the question wasn't meant to be answered really. just to troll some tlsers
You trolled us with a bad joke criticizing good advice? Congrats bro.

Re: I made my own Flaw question, check it out

Posted: Sun May 12, 2013 9:10 pm
by Richie Tenenbaum
itachiuchiha wrote:
Micdiddy wrote:I don't see how any of these answers are right from YOUR perspective. C comes the closest, but the stimulus didn't mention responders providing evidence, so that can't be the flaw.

Eta: actually "don't go to law school" is pretty relevant no matter which way you swing it. B can't be right because "don't go to law school" is considering the test taker can't score above 160. D can't be right because no one "assumes op should retake or don't go" in order to conclude "op should retake or don't go."
Oh I get it, you wrote a flawed question, not a flaw question.
indeed i did! indeed i did. the question wasn't meant to be answered really. just to troll some tlsers
Richie Tenenbaum wrote:
dr123 wrote:retake

Re: I made my own Flaw question, check it out

Posted: Sun May 12, 2013 10:03 pm
by wtrc
itachiuchiha wrote:
Micdiddy wrote:I don't see how any of these answers are right from YOUR perspective. C comes the closest, but the stimulus didn't mention responders providing evidence, so that can't be the flaw.

Eta: actually "don't go to law school" is pretty relevant no matter which way you swing it. B can't be right because "don't go to law school" is considering the test taker can't score above 160. D can't be right because no one "assumes op should retake or don't go" in order to conclude "op should retake or don't go."
Oh I get it, you wrote a flawed question, not a flaw question.
indeed i did! indeed i did. the question wasn't meant to be answered really. just to troll some tlsers
You "trolled" TLSers by taking the time to write out a stimulus, question, and 5 responses... on TLS. WTF mate.

The advice you've gotten is good. People on TLS didn't have some secret meeting where they decided to team up against you and give you bad advice. If you go to a school with a 4.0/160, you will either get into a once decent school, but today that has marginal job prospects to pay off the debt (T 30- 50 or so, but the closer to T30 the less chance of any $ at all), or a school on a nice scholarship (T-100 level) with AWFUL job prospects.

You're one of the top few percent in GPA. You probably worked pretty hard for that GPA--- as anyone with a 4.0 has. It's not worth settling- you can do better on the LSAT.

And don't troll TLS. If you are looking for advice, don't come into it with a preconceived notion of what that advice should be. That's not how advice works dude.

Re: I made my own Flaw question, check it out

Posted: Sun May 12, 2013 10:30 pm
by dr123
Enjoy American

Re: I made my own Flaw question, check it out

Posted: Sun May 12, 2013 10:35 pm
by Clearly
And don't troll TLS. If you are looking for advice, don't come into it with a preconceived notion of what that advice should be. That's not how advice works dude.

This is the best thing I've ever read.

Re: I made my own Flaw question, check it out

Posted: Sun May 12, 2013 10:45 pm
by itachiuchiha
wtrcoins3 wrote:
itachiuchiha wrote:
Micdiddy wrote:I don't see how any of these answers are right from YOUR perspective. C comes the closest, but the stimulus didn't mention responders providing evidence, so that can't be the flaw.

Eta: actually "don't go to law school" is pretty relevant no matter which way you swing it. B can't be right because "don't go to law school" is considering the test taker can't score above 160. D can't be right because no one "assumes op should retake or don't go" in order to conclude "op should retake or don't go."
Oh I get it, you wrote a flawed question, not a flaw question.
indeed i did! indeed i did. the question wasn't meant to be answered really. just to troll some tlsers
You "trolled" TLSers by taking the time to write out a stimulus, question, and 5 responses... on TLS. WTF mate.

The advice you've gotten is good. People on TLS didn't have some secret meeting where they decided to team up against you and give you bad advice. If you go to a school with a 4.0/160, you will either get into a once decent school, but today that has marginal job prospects to pay off the debt (T 30- 50 or so, but the closer to T30 the less chance of any $ at all), or a school on a nice scholarship (T-100 level) with AWFUL job prospects.

You're one of the top few percent in GPA. You probably worked pretty hard for that GPA--- as anyone with a 4.0 has. It's not worth settling- you can do better on the LSAT.

And don't troll TLS. If you are looking for advice, don't come into it with a preconceived notion of what that advice should be. That's not how advice works dude.
Bad assumption. You thought I was talking about myself? I never took the LSAT

Re: I made my own Flaw question, check it out

Posted: Sun May 12, 2013 10:49 pm
by Clearly
itachiuchiha wrote:
wtrcoins3 wrote:
itachiuchiha wrote:
Micdiddy wrote:I don't see how any of these answers are right from YOUR perspective. C comes the closest, but the stimulus didn't mention responders providing evidence, so that can't be the flaw.

Eta: actually "don't go to law school" is pretty relevant no matter which way you swing it. B can't be right because "don't go to law school" is considering the test taker can't score above 160. D can't be right because no one "assumes op should retake or don't go" in order to conclude "op should retake or don't go."
Oh I get it, you wrote a flawed question, not a flaw question.
indeed i did! indeed i did. the question wasn't meant to be answered really. just to troll some tlsers
You "trolled" TLSers by taking the time to write out a stimulus, question, and 5 responses... on TLS. WTF mate.

The advice you've gotten is good. People on TLS didn't have some secret meeting where they decided to team up against you and give you bad advice. If you go to a school with a 4.0/160, you will either get into a once decent school, but today that has marginal job prospects to pay off the debt (T 30- 50 or so, but the closer to T30 the less chance of any $ at all), or a school on a nice scholarship (T-100 level) with AWFUL job prospects.

You're one of the top few percent in GPA. You probably worked pretty hard for that GPA--- as anyone with a 4.0 has. It's not worth settling- you can do better on the LSAT.

And don't troll TLS. If you are looking for advice, don't come into it with a preconceived notion of what that advice should be. That's not how advice works dude.
Bad assumption. You thought I was talking about myself? I never took the LSAT
Yeah, never would have guessed. :lol:

Re: I made my own Flaw question, check it out

Posted: Mon May 13, 2013 11:32 am
by objection_your_honor
There's no argument there. Just background info and a conclusion. We need at least one premise to spot a flaw.

Re: I made my own Flaw question, check it out

Posted: Mon May 13, 2013 1:36 pm
by monadologist
There's no flaw in the stimulus, and all the responses are flawed. Reading this question probably knocked 5 points off of my LR now, haha.