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Very generally, I think the schools at the extremes are impacted the least. The T-14 won't have a problem convincing plenty of people to pay sticker. The bottom 50 schools should have that problem, and they probably will have a more difficult time than in the past, however, many of the people attending these schools aren't paying attention to law school crisis talk.patienunderstanding wrote:Can someone give their thoughts on which schools are impacted the most? I mean from 50 down or from 75 down ?
Totally disagree. Others have shown that the number of 170+ applicants are dropping by more than 30%, and the number of 175+ applications are dropping by more than 35%. (see http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... start=1025) They probably have to take less sstudents, or soemthingjustonemoregame wrote:Very generally, I think the schools at the extremes are impacted the least. The T-14 won't have a problem convincing plenty of people to pay sticker. The bottom 50 schools should have that problem, and they probably will have a more difficult time than in the past, however, many of the people attending these schools aren't paying attention to law school crisis talk.patienunderstanding wrote:Can someone give their thoughts on which schools are impacted the most? I mean from 50 down or from 75 down ?
I would guess those impacted the most are the ones that seemed to be impacted the most last round - T25/35s shooting for rank bumps and prestige-by-association.
Looks like people are applying to less schools... but those probably aren't the best applicants, admittedly, because people familiar with the law school situation would likely apply more broadly (at least in terms of reach schools) because of the uncertainty involved in this cycle. (Unfortunately, I also think this means that while, by the numbers, people waitlisted will fare better, individually you'll have a lesser shot of getting in off the waitlist because everyone is going to be sticking around. Although, I suppose it might just be the folks on TLS who will be sticking around more than usual.)Who knows, maybe UVA is making a power play to solidify the #7 ranking or even try to crack the T6.bizzybone1313 wrote:UVA seems to be in full blown panic mode based on the money they are throwing out. For those of you who have been following this cycle closely, what other T-14 schools seem to try to be maintaining their medians at whatever the costs?
I guess I should clarify a bit. Which T-14 schools are throwing a lot more money around? That would seem to be pretty good indicator that the school knows shit is hitting the fan. The bust is coming or is already here. Retirement accounts are going down the gutter.sinfiery wrote:Who knows, maybe UVA is making a power play to solidify the #7 ranking or even try to crack the T6.bizzybone1313 wrote:UVA seems to be in full blown panic mode based on the money they are throwing out. For those of you who have been following this cycle closely, what other T-14 schools seem to try to be maintaining their medians at whatever the costs?
Michigan has been pretty active too.bizzybone1313 wrote:I guess I should clarify a bit. Which T-14 schools are throwing a lot more money around? That would seem to be pretty good indicator that the school knows shit is hitting the fan. The bust is coming or is already here. Retirement accounts are going down the gutter.sinfiery wrote:Who knows, maybe UVA is making a power play to solidify the #7 ranking or even try to crack the T6.bizzybone1313 wrote:UVA seems to be in full blown panic mode based on the money they are throwing out. For those of you who have been following this cycle closely, what other T-14 schools seem to try to be maintaining their medians at whatever the costs?
I was mostly referring to class sizes. I just don't think Penn and UVA should be concerned about letting the LSAT slip to 169. Why would they drop $$$ in revenue just to maintain 170 when all their peers are going to have the same problem? It's not like they're dropping out of the T-14 - these schools have been ranked virtually in the same spot for decades. They will surely have difficulty maintaining their median, and only naturally more difficulty than in the past, but not as much trouble as WUSTL / GWU.onionz wrote:Totally disagree. Others have shown that the number of 170+ applicants are dropping by more than 30%, and the number of 175+ applications are dropping by more than 35%. (see http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... start=1025) They probably have to take less sstudents, or soemthingjustonemoregame wrote:Very generally, I think the schools at the extremes are impacted the least. The T-14 won't have a problem convincing plenty of people to pay sticker. The bottom 50 schools should have that problem, and they probably will have a more difficult time than in the past, however, many of the people attending these schools aren't paying attention to law school crisis talk.patienunderstanding wrote:Can someone give their thoughts on which schools are impacted the most? I mean from 50 down or from 75 down ?
I would guess those impacted the most are the ones that seemed to be impacted the most last round - T25/35s shooting for rank bumps and prestige-by-association.
If you project UVA's median at 169 for this cycle, then their actions are pretty rational and in line with precious cycles (wrt $ for those above one or both medians).bizzybone1313 wrote:UVA seems to be in full blown panic mode based on the money they are throwing out. For those of you who have been following this cycle closely, what other T-14 schools seem to try to be maintaining their medians at whatever the costs?
Given that those are my numbers and I'm de facto waitlisted at NYU (deferred ED), I am also very curious about when they'll let those 170/3.7s off the waitlist.ncc5 wrote:I don't really see UVA throwing that much money around yet. It seems like what they are doing at this point is pretty standard for the scholarship money they usually give out. YP aside, I am interested to see when they are going to start letting those 170/3.7's off the waitlist.
It seems like every school has just been holding their breath waiting to see if God will give them an uptick in December scores, which clearly didn't happen. I have a feeling that we can't approach this cycle with established assumptions, as it seems the levies are breaking.
A few schools in the T14 have been strict on their acceptance numbers this year with this knowledge in mind. Berekeley, Cornell, and Duke come to mind. I expect any of these schools to make a move. Virginia will definitely be in the mix.sinfiery wrote:Who knows, maybe UVA is making a power play to solidify the #7 ranking or even try to crack the T6.bizzybone1313 wrote:UVA seems to be in full blown panic mode based on the money they are throwing out. For those of you who have been following this cycle closely, what other T-14 schools seem to try to be maintaining their medians at whatever the costs?
Brother Wormfather, just think about how much value the AA male/99% percentile LSAT just went up! Feelsgoodman.Wormfather wrote:Pure speculation, but when including 170 retakers, I'm thinking that when estimating liberally, the December administration only added 400-500 new 170+ers.
Err, yes. If Harvard's LSAT median fell to 170, "HYS" would probably become "YSC."moonman157 wrote:if Harvard's LSAT median fell to 170, would that really have a huge impact?
If I'm not mistaken, Harvard's drop from #2 to #3 was due to a drop in prestige. Enough people see Harvard as a diploma mill to make it a legitimate concern.Wormfather wrote:LOL, no.TripTrip wrote:Err, yes. If Harvard's LSAT median fell to 170, "HYS" would probably become "YSC."moonman157 wrote:if Harvard's LSAT median fell to 170, would that really have a huge impact?
Prestige bro: http://www.usnews.com/education/best-gr ... l-rankings
