JUNE 2013 Study Group / Study Partner Thread Forum

[Dr. Dre]

I love you guys. I hope we all get 170+s.

dood hope you that that 170+ bro

[CardozoLaw09]

I did 5 RC sections today - someone give me a fucking medal.

[Dr. Dre]

I did 5 RC sections today - someone give me a fucking medal.

that's pussy shit — bro

[CardozoLaw09]

I did 5 RC sections today - someone give me a fucking medal.

that's pussy shit — bro

I guess it's not THAT impressive. But still, boring as hell

[Daily_Double]

I did 5 RC sections today - someone give me a fucking medal.

that's pussy shit — bro

False. It is absolutely not pussy shit. Prove me otherwise Dre, and I might agree with you here, but honestly I doubt you, or anyone can.

[SteelPenguin]

I did 5 RC sections today - someone give me a fucking medal.

I didn't realize you were a sadist.

[TheMostDangerousLG]

Just retook PT 66. 178. Frustrating, because it was a retake (took it in February). I want to be getting 180s on the most recent tests, damn it.

PT 66:
RC: -2
LR1: -0
LG: -0
LR2: -1
Total: -3 (RS: 97)

Curve was surprisingly rough.

God damn tone Qs on RC always kill me. The editors of the RC passages and I clearly interpret authors' attitude differently. I do just fine understanding what the author is saying and how they feel about an issue (or else I wouldn't be doing well on the other Qs), but those tone Qs always have such bizarre answer choices. Definitely require the most subjective interpretation on the test.

Anyone have any tips for these? Or know of any good resources for help with these?

[rebexness]

I don't think I have ever gotten one correct. Clearly I don't know enough adjectives.

[Dr. Dre]

Just retook PT 66. 178. Frustrating, because it was a retake (took it in February). I want to be getting 180s on the most recent tests, damn it.

PT 66:
RC: -2
LR1: -0
LG: -0
LR2: -1
Total: -3 (RS: 97)

Curve was surprisingly rough.

God damn tone Qs on RC always kill me. The editors of the RC passages and I clearly interpret authors' attitude differently. I do just fine understanding what the author is saying and how they feel about an issue (or else I wouldn't be doing well on the other Qs), but those tone Qs always have such bizarre answer choices. Definitely require the most subjective interpretation on the test.

Anyone have any tips for these? Or know of any good resources for help with these?

[TheMostDangerousLG]

Just retook PT 66. 178. Frustrating, because it was a retake (took it in February). I want to be getting 180s on the most recent tests, damn it.

PT 66:
RC: -2
LR1: -0
LG: -0
LR2: -1
Total: -3 (RS: 97)

Curve was surprisingly rough.

God damn tone Qs on RC always kill me. The editors of the RC passages and I clearly interpret authors' attitude differently. I do just fine understanding what the author is saying and how they feel about an issue (or else I wouldn't be doing well on the other Qs), but those tone Qs always have such bizarre answer choices. Definitely require the most subjective interpretation on the test.

Anyone have any tips for these? Or know of any good resources for help with these?

Lulz. All the boys love my mad LSAT skills.

[ManoftheHour]

Just retook PT 66. 178. Frustrating, because it was a retake (took it in February). I want to be getting 180s on the most recent tests, damn it.

PT 66:
RC: -2
LR1: -0
LG: -0
LR2: -1
Total: -3 (RS: 97)

Curve was surprisingly rough.

God damn tone Qs on RC always kill me. The editors of the RC passages and I clearly interpret authors' attitude differently. I do just fine understanding what the author is saying and how they feel about an issue (or else I wouldn't be doing well on the other Qs), but those tone Qs always have such bizarre answer choices. Definitely require the most subjective interpretation on the test.

Anyone have any tips for these? Or know of any good resources for help with these?

With these questions, are you struggling between two answer choices? If you are, the more toned down one is always the answer. Tone questions to be pretty one dimensional. For example:

This following example is from an actual LSAT that has been edited changed to avoid copyright.

The author's view toward blah blah blah described as:

A) Unbridled enthusiasm
B) Qualified approval
C) Absolute neutrality
D) Rejection towards it
E) Strong hostility

Usually by reading the passage, you have some idea of whether the author supports something, feels neutral about it, or disagrees. After you've figured that out, it's pretty easy to pinpoint the answer. Answers like A are always wrong. If A is right, then B HAS to be right. If someone is unbridled with enthusiasm, he must have qualified approval. But since we can't have two right answers, B has to be the right answer because it's way easier to establish. Same goes for D and E. If someone has strong hostility towards something, then one has to reject it.

In this example, if I get the sense that the author is supportive of whatever claims the question is targeting, I'd pick B and not look back. If he's neutral, then C. If he's against it, then D. Looking at these answer choices, I wouldn't even touch A and E.

I've always used this method and I don't remember the last time I've missed a tone RC question. Like ever.

[rebexness]

My new hero <3

[NoWorries]

Manofthehour is right on there.

[Dr. Dre]

180 poast, manofthehour

[sublime]

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[patfeeney]

Hey guys,
Regarding photo ID, what did you use, and how old was the photo you used? My most recent ID photo is about four years old, and I just realized that this may be too old for LSAC usage.
Have any of you who've taken the test before encountered this issue?

[sublime]

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[mvonh001]

Do you guys drill before PTing, or jump right into PTing when you start studying and save the drilling for after when you are reviewing?

[SteelPenguin]

Hey guys,
Regarding photo ID, what did you use, and how old was the photo you used? My most recent ID photo is about four years old, and I just realized that this may be too old for LSAC usage.
Have any of you who've taken the test before encountered this issue?

Mine's fairly old, and although most people would be able to tell it's the same person, you can definitely tell it's not a recent photo. I had no problems.

[SteelPenguin]

Just retook PT 66. 178. Frustrating, because it was a retake (took it in February). I want to be getting 180s on the most recent tests, damn it.

PT 66:
RC: -2
LR1: -0
LG: -0
LR2: -1
Total: -3 (RS: 97)

Curve was surprisingly rough.

God damn tone Qs on RC always kill me. The editors of the RC passages and I clearly interpret authors' attitude differently. I do just fine understanding what the author is saying and how they feel about an issue (or else I wouldn't be doing well on the other Qs), but those tone Qs always have such bizarre answer choices. Definitely require the most subjective interpretation on the test.

Anyone have any tips for these? Or know of any good resources for help with these?

With these questions, are you struggling between two answer choices? If you are, the more toned down one is always the answer. Tone questions to be pretty one dimensional. For example:

This following example is from an actual LSAT that has been edited changed to avoid copyright.

The author's view toward blah blah blah described as:

A) Unbridled enthusiasm
B) Qualified approval
C) Absolute neutrality
D) Rejection towards it
E) Strong hostility

Usually by reading the passage, you have some idea of whether the author supports something, feels neutral about it, or disagrees. After you've figured that out, it's pretty easy to pinpoint the answer. Answers like A are always wrong. If A is right, then B HAS to be right. If someone is unbridled with enthusiasm, he must have qualified approval. But since we can't have two right answers, B has to be the right answer because it's way easier to establish. Same goes for D and E. If someone has strong hostility towards something, then one has to reject it.

In this example, if I get the sense that the author is supportive of whatever claims the question is targeting, I'd pick B and not look back. If he's neutral, then C. If he's against it, then D. Looking at these answer choices, I wouldn't even touch A and E.

I've always used this method and I don't remember the last time I've missed a tone RC question. Like ever.

I can't really recall encountering one of these questions where the correct answer is a negative one. I think it's usually the slightly positive answer, and rarely the neutral answer. I can only recall getting one of these wrong (vocabulary issue), but I could be wrong.

[RhymesLikeDimes]

PT 64 today:

LR1: -2 (#15, 23. Misinterpreted the context of "indifferent" in #15. #23 was just a biotch.)
LG: -1 (#3. Surprisingly time-consuming section, but missing this question was inexcusable)
LR: -1 (#14. Can't believe I missed this one. Not reading thoroughly.)
RC: -2 (#12, 19. #12 makes me furious (see my topic).)

Raw: 95 ---> Scaled: 175

Worst PT in a long time, but I'm honestly okay with it. High scores and a lack of fresh material had let me slip into complete burn-out mode these last couple weeks, and this is just the wake-up call I needed. The LR sections were surprisingly tricky, and I just made some silly mistakes on RC/LG. I only have PTs 65, 66, and 67 to go; hopefully I'll get back to form over the next week.

[wtrc]

PT 64 today:

LR1: -2 (#15, 23. Misinterpreted the context of "indifferent" in #15. #23 was just a biotch.)
LG: -1 (#3. Surprisingly time-consuming section, but missing this question was inexcusable)
LR: -1 (#14. Can't believe I missed this one. Not reading thoroughly.)
RC: -2 (#12, 19. #12 makes me furious (see my topic).)

Raw: 95 ---> Scaled: 175

Worst PT in a long time, but I'm honestly okay with it. High scores and a lack of fresh material had let me slip into complete burn-out mode these last couple weeks, and this is just the wake-up call I needed. The LR sections were surprisingly tricky, and I just made some silly mistakes on RC/LG. I only have PTs 65, 66, and 67 to go; hopefully I'll get back to form over the next week.

On the bright side, your disappointing/worst PT is still over the median for literally every law school in existence. Congrats!

[lawschoolplease1]

my PTs are all over the place--low to high 170s. One was a 168 just last week.
i usually just get tired during the test, and make silly mistakes.
im hoping test anxiety will pull me through.

congrats to all of those who are PTing closely at your target range though!!!!!

[ManoftheHour]

My new hero <3

My work here is done.

[sublime]

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