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Official signs of improvement thread
Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 1:11 pm
by LionelHutzJD
I thought this might be a good idea for all of us preparing for the exam, in terms of morale and tips. Just post something you've noticed in your studying that is an indication of improvement. I'll start...
I'm beginning to notice in necessary assumption LR questions that the leap in logic (correct answer choice) is beginning to jump out after I read the stimulus. This is definitely an improvement for me.
Re: Official signs of improvement thread
Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 5:45 pm
by kaseyb002
I was stuck around -4/-5 on RC for a long time. But after doing about 30 or 40 passages, thorough review, and few tweaks in approach I am up (or down I suppose) to -1/-2.
For me it was focusing on the FLOW of the passage. I also sped up my reading pace a little. I don't really annotate except for the thesis/main point and if something jumps out at me.
Re: Official signs of improvement thread
Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 1:36 pm
by CyanIdes Of March
kaseyb002 wrote:I was stuck around -4/-5 on RC for a long time. But after doing about 30 or 40 passages, thorough review, and few tweaks in approach I am up (or down I suppose) to -1/-2.
For me it was focusing on the FLOW of the passage. I also sped up my reading pace a little. I don't really annotate except for the thesis/main point and if something jumps out at me.
I'm still around the -4/-5. Decided to do a few more untimed to get the basics down. Hoping that will help me read passages with more confidence and retention.
Other than RC though I feel pretty good about the test overall. LG I have down solid, -0/-1 accounting for dumb detailed reading errors and LR to a max of -3 per section. Definitely need to cut 1 or 2 of those out but I think given the amount of time I have left I'll be able to bring that to a more consistent -0/-1 by test time. 175 looks possible so I'm happy.
kaseyb002 wrote:I was stuck around -4/-5 on RC for a long time. But after doing about 30 or 40 passages, thorough review, and few tweaks in approach I am up (or down I suppose) to -1/-2.
For me it was focusing on the FLOW of the passage. I also sped up my reading pace a little. I don't really annotate except for the thesis/main point and if something jumps out at me.
After a day of review? You posted on my thread the day before about being -4/-5 :p.
Re: Official signs of improvement thread
Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 3:13 pm
by NoodleyOne
I just got my highest raw score ever and tied my highest scaled score, so I'm feeling okay. Also, I studied and drilled Parallel reasoning and flaw the past few days and nailed them on my last PT. Hopefully that continues through multiple tests.
Re: Official signs of improvement thread
Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 5:35 pm
by mcs268
I hit my best score of -2 at RC. Games all time high at -4 today too. But LR raped me..the last two tests my LR has gone down from like -3 to -7/8!! per section! I just finished test 44 so hopefully it will fix itself soon.
I am super happy with LG and RC though

Re: Official signs of improvement thread
Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 6:15 pm
by LionelHutzJD
i too just saw my highest score today and highest raw score.

Re: Official signs of improvement thread
Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 2:09 am
by buddyt
LionelHutzJD wrote:i too just saw my highest score today and highest raw score.

Same. After a trio of 167s, I went -5 on PT48 today for a 174 (96 raw). Feeling amped.
Re: Official signs of improvement thread
Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 4:29 am
by CyanIdes Of March
177 on PT 4... buuuut I did the RC untimed because my RC question answering needs some serious work and it was split by individual section with several breaks between.
Re: Official signs of improvement thread
Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 8:33 am
by kaseyb002
CyanIdes Of March wrote:kaseyb002 wrote:I was stuck around -4/-5 on RC for a long time. But after doing about 30 or 40 passages, thorough review, and few tweaks in approach I am up (or down I suppose) to -1/-2.
For me it was focusing on the FLOW of the passage. I also sped up my reading pace a little. I don't really annotate except for the thesis/main point and if something jumps out at me.
I'm still around the -4/-5. Decided to do a few more untimed to get the basics down. Hoping that will help me read passages with more confidence and retention.
Other than RC though I feel pretty good about the test overall. LG I have down solid, -0/-1 accounting for dumb detailed reading errors and LR to a max of -3 per section. Definitely need to cut 1 or 2 of those out but I think given the amount of time I have left I'll be able to bring that to a more consistent -0/-1 by test time. 175 looks possible so I'm happy.
kaseyb002 wrote:I was stuck around -4/-5 on RC for a long time. But after doing about 30 or 40 passages, thorough review, and few tweaks in approach I am up (or down I suppose) to -1/-2.
For me it was focusing on the FLOW of the passage. I also sped up my reading pace a little. I don't really annotate except for the thesis/main point and if something jumps out at me.
After a day of review? You posted on my thread the day before about being -4/-5 :p.
Well for the past couple of practice tests/timed sections (like 3 total) I was at -1/-2 at the time of that post, but I didn't want to make a judgment based on that. Then I took two more and was again at -1/-2 so I felt pretty confident I had made the jump at that point. After looking back, and reading Mike Kim's 170 thread, I realized it has much less to do with practicing and review as it did just with changing my approach. Now I just read for flow/reasoning and don't worry about the details. If I remember the details, great, if not, I generally know where to find them.
Re: Official signs of improvement thread
Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 11:17 am
by CyanIdes Of March
I might give that a look. I've heard people say that before but I haven't given it much attention and I probably should.
Re: Official signs of improvement thread
Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 11:32 am
by wtrc
Sign of improvement:
After a 14 month break, I started studying for the LSAT a week ago. Have taken 3 PT's since. On the first PT, LG took me an hour (and I still got 4 wrong). On the second, took me 45 mins (got 4 wrong). Last night, I finished in exactly 35 minutes, and got 2 wrong (granted, it was PT 48, with the brutal curve). Definitely getting back into the hang of LG.
Still,

Re: Official signs of improvement thread
Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 11:28 pm
by Funkycrime
NoodleyOne wrote:I just got my highest raw score ever and tied my highest scaled score, so I'm feeling okay. Also, I studied and drilled Parallel reasoning and flaw the past few days and nailed them on my last PT. Hopefully that continues through multiple tests.
Those are my weakest LR question. Manhattan was decent for them, but the content on assumption questions made it well worth the purchase.
Re: Official signs of improvement thread
Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 11:44 pm
by NoodleyOne
I think the thing that always got me on PR is I couldn't see past the language. It's weird because I don't have a problem with that on other types and sections, but something about parallel always tripped me up. I think I'm better at eliminating that now, so I am feeling really confident.
Re: Official signs of improvement thread
Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 7:25 am
by Ixiion
NoodleyOne wrote:I think the thing that always got me on PR is I couldn't see past the language. It's weird because I don't have a problem with that on other types and sections, but something about parallel always tripped me up. I think I'm better at eliminating that now, so I am feeling really confident.
PRs are also my worst question type. Did you do anything other than drilling them, or was that sufficient enough to help? I'm drilling strengthen questions right now, but plan on doing PR after I'm done with these.
Yeah, I'm totally with you there. The language kills me on those questions, and I don't know why. I can usually eliminate three answer choices and am then left with 2, and somehow I often choose the wrong one.
Re: Official signs of improvement thread
Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 7:51 pm
by cloudhidden
I had my first -0 on a LG section the other day. I once missed sixteen questions on that section. I felt like a kid who just hit the game winning home run.
Re: Official signs of improvement thread
Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 10:32 pm
by Ixiion
Had my first -0 LR section today. Though I complemented that with my worst LR section in the same test. So, not sure if that's an improvement overall.
Re: Official signs of improvement thread
Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 10:40 pm
by cloudhidden
Ixiion wrote:Had my first -0 LR section today. Though I complemented that with my worst LR section in the same test. So, not sure if that's an improvement overall.
I once went -0 on one LR section and -8 on the other section - and this was on the real thing.
Re: Official signs of improvement thread
Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 10:59 pm
by espressocream
-3 on an LR section today.
Changed my strategy a bit - which was confusing at first - but I'll adjust.
Excited!
Re: Official signs of improvement thread
Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2012 6:04 pm
by buddyt
cloudhidden wrote:I had my first -0 on a LG section the other day. I once missed sixteen questions on that section. I felt like a kid who just hit the game winning home run.
There are few feelings quite like getting your first -0 on a section, or a -0 on any section at any time for that matter. I've done it once on twice on LG, once on LR, and zero on RC, but I've resigned myself to the fact that RC is a crap shoot no matter what anyhow.
Re: Official signs of improvement thread
Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 5:58 am
by CyanIdes Of March
buddytyler wrote:cloudhidden wrote:I had my first -0 on a LG section the other day. I once missed sixteen questions on that section. I felt like a kid who just hit the game winning home run.
There are few feelings quite like getting your first -0 on a section, or a -0 on any section at any time for that matter. I've done it once on twice on LG, once on LR, and zero on RC, but I've resigned myself to the fact that RC is a crap shoot no matter what anyhow.
I've gotten it once on RC, twice on LR (lots of -1 and -2), and countless times on LG. I agree, RC seems like a crapshoot. Can breeze through it for a -1/-2 or can get -4/-5.
Still though, went -1 on RC (PT 15) so I'm feeling pretty good about RC improvement. Although to be honest I feel like this was just a much easier section than many of the newer ones. No science passage, fewer inference questions, and 2 passages I had extensive background knowledge on.
Re: Official signs of improvement thread
Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 8:53 am
by cloudhidden
CyanIdes Of March wrote:buddytyler wrote:cloudhidden wrote:I had my first -0 on a LG section the other day. I once missed sixteen questions on that section. I felt like a kid who just hit the game winning home run.
There are few feelings quite like getting your first -0 on a section, or a -0 on any section at any time for that matter. I've done it once on twice on LG, once on LR, and zero on RC, but I've resigned myself to the fact that RC is a crap shoot no matter what anyhow.
I've gotten it once on RC, twice on LR (lots of -1 and -2), and countless times on LG. I agree, RC seems like a crapshoot. Can breeze through it for a -1/-2 or can get -4/-5.
Still though, went -1 on RC (PT 15) so I'm feeling pretty good about RC improvement. Although to be honest I feel like this was just a much easier section than many of the newer ones. No science passage, fewer inference questions, and 2 passages I had extensive background knowledge on.
Is anyone a consistent -0 or -1 on RC?
Re: Official signs of improvement thread
Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 1:17 pm
by LionelHutzJD
hell no ^....BUT I WAS SO CLOSE TO MY FIRST -0 LG LAST NIGHT!. I seriously thought i had it but ended up going -5. Still my best section yet though. My mistakes were just misreads. Very, very stupid rushing mistakes.

Re: Official signs of improvement thread
Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 1:19 pm
by NoodleyOne
I'm not consistent -0/-1, but I will be by October 6...
Here's hoping, at least. Now I'm -0/-4, which is a bit wide for my liking. Last two tests have been -0 and -1 though, so hopefully that maintains.
Re: Official signs of improvement thread
Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 1:24 pm
by LionelHutzJD
espressocream wrote:-3 on an LR section today.
Changed my strategy a bit - which was confusing at first - but I'll adjust.
Excited!
May i ask what your change of strategy was?
Re: Official signs of improvement thread
Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 1:24 pm
by LionelHutzJD
NoodleyOne wrote:I'm not consistent -0/-1, but I will be by October 6...
Here's hoping, at least. Now I'm -0/-4, which is a bit wide for my liking. Last two tests have been -0 and -1 though, so hopefully that maintains.
keep at it. you got it.
