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Reviewing missed questions VS drilling by type

Posted: Wed May 09, 2012 1:25 am
by volp
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Re: Reviewing missed questions VS drilling by type

Posted: Wed May 09, 2012 1:27 am
by gaud
volp wrote:I'm scoring 165+ consistently, but I'm wondering which is the most effective strategy since I'm studying dor June. Should I still be drilling by type (which I've done ad infinitum) or should I just intensively review missed PT questions and do more PTs? Please help me :(
At your level of scoring I would continue to take PTs.

Cut out missed problems and drill them again and again. Make sure, that for every question, you understand why each answer choice is correct or incorrect. Write this out on problems you miss and explain it to yourself.

Re: Reviewing missed questions VS drilling by type

Posted: Wed May 09, 2012 1:27 am
by jigglebottom
use the forum search feature on your internets there are a lot of detailed threads that will help answer your question.

Re: Reviewing missed questions VS drilling by type

Posted: Wed May 09, 2012 1:45 am
by volp
jigglebottom wrote:use the forum search feature on your internets there are a lot of detailed threads that will help answer your question.
I did this, but i wanted some more help. Sorry?

Re: Reviewing missed questions VS drilling by type

Posted: Wed May 09, 2012 1:51 am
by jigglebottom
Im not mad bro im just trying to help you out.. Also I'm sort of in the same position as you. I'm currently redoing some drills by type. I figured it'd help, maybe give me an illuminative boost. Sometimes there are those question that I just can't quite wiggle an answer out of. You look into mastering the flaw types?

Re: Reviewing missed questions VS drilling by type

Posted: Wed May 09, 2012 1:56 am
by volp
By mastering, do you mean memorizing? I do need to be more familiar with them, since flaw/flaw related questions are the worst for me. I read Dave Hal'ls post on flaws in his advice thread and read the velocity list of flaws, which has helped a bit. Just trying to be better at identifying them during the test :/

Re: Reviewing missed questions VS drilling by type

Posted: Wed May 09, 2012 2:00 am
by jigglebottom
practice practice practice. you taking any pt's soon?

Re: Reviewing missed questions VS drilling by type

Posted: Wed May 09, 2012 2:02 am
by gaud
volp wrote:
jigglebottom wrote:use the forum search feature on your internets there are a lot of detailed threads that will help answer your question.
I did this, but i wanted some more help. Sorry?
Don't worry about it.

You're at a point in your prep where you clearly know what you are doing. Fine tune your skills now. When you miss a problem, find out why you missed it. Was there something you didn't understand? Did you get tricked by the wording? Were you reading too fast? Could an energy drink or 5-hour energy help? Why is this choice wrong? Why is this one right? Do you miss the same types of problems? Do you miss them for the same reasons?

You need to dig deep and figure these things out. Always make sure you understand why each choice is wrong or right, for LR, RC, and LG. Redo your games. Redo them again. Start reading The Economist, NY Times, Science Journals, anything that has merit (not some Twighlight bullsh*t)

Remember that flaws are usually poor assumptions

Re: Reviewing missed questions VS drilling by type

Posted: Wed May 09, 2012 2:07 am
by volp
gaud wrote:
volp wrote:
jigglebottom wrote:use the forum search feature on your internets there are a lot of detailed threads that will help answer your question.
I did this, but i wanted some more help. Sorry?
Don't worry about it.

You're at a point in your prep where you clearly know what you are doing. Fine tune your skills now. When you miss a problem, find out why you missed it. Was there something you didn't understand? Did you get tricked by the wording? Were you reading too fast? Could an energy drink or 5-hour energy help? Why is this choice wrong? Why is this one right? Do you miss the same types of problems? Do you miss them for the same reasons?

You need to dig deep and figure these things out. Always make sure you understand why each choice is wrong or right, for LR, RC, and LG. Redo your games. Redo them again. Start reading The Economist, NY Times, Science Journals, anything that has merit (not some Twighlight bullsh*t)

Remember that flaws are usually poor assumptions
Thank you sooo much. I really appreciate you taking the time to answer my questions >.<

This is really helpful, since I wasn't sure what kind of prep I should be doing at this stage!

Re: Reviewing missed questions VS drilling by type

Posted: Wed May 09, 2012 2:08 am
by volp
jigglebottom wrote:practice practice practice. you taking any pt's soon?
Took PT54 today, maybe taking PT55 tomorrow since I had a reaaally off day today, but def. taking PT55 this week.

Re: Reviewing missed questions VS drilling by type

Posted: Wed May 09, 2012 2:11 am
by gaud
volp wrote:
jigglebottom wrote:practice practice practice. you taking any pt's soon?
Took PT54 today, maybe taking PT55 tomorrow since I had a reaaally off day today, but def. taking PT55 this week.
Also, beware of burnouts. Three-ish tests per week is sufficient. You'd be surprised how taking time off can actually help your scores.

Re: Reviewing missed questions VS drilling by type

Posted: Wed May 09, 2012 2:14 am
by volp
Gotcha, I'll watch it. Dont want to burn out too close to gameday... Btw, you are awesome.

Re: Reviewing missed questions VS drilling by type

Posted: Wed May 09, 2012 2:14 am
by jigglebottom
holy shit 3 a week? I thought one was enough.. I recently did 55 and 56.. good luck!

Re: Reviewing missed questions VS drilling by type

Posted: Wed May 09, 2012 2:16 am
by volp
Thanks dude

Re: Reviewing missed questions VS drilling by type

Posted: Wed May 09, 2012 2:17 am
by gaud
jigglebottom wrote:holy shit 3 a week? I thought one was enough.. I recently did 55 and 56.. good luck!
Lol, three is just a ballpark number. Do whatever works best for you. You may be more comfortable with 2 and drilling. Or 1 and drilling. Maybe even 3 and drilling. Just keep in mind that there is such thing as 'too much'.

Best of luck to you both.

Re: Reviewing missed questions VS drilling by type

Posted: Wed May 09, 2012 10:03 am
by markeconrad
I find that I have to force myself to stop once I get into it. I'll take a PT see that I did well, but made a few dumb mistakes, and then really want to rectify it and take another. I have to force myself to take a a day off or just drill the next day.

Re: Reviewing missed questions VS drilling by type

Posted: Wed May 09, 2012 1:13 pm
by volp
markeconrad wrote:I find that I have to force myself to stop once I get into it. I'll take a PT see that I did well, but made a few dumb mistakes, and then really want to rectify it and take another. I have to force myself to take a a day off or just drill the next day.
Yeah, this is exactly how I feel/felt. Gonna take some time and just drill, maybe take PT 55 on Monday.