February 2012 Waiting Thread (NEW POLL!!!1!) Forum

[Morpheus69]

What did everyone think about the LR problem about the fluoridated water in Britain and America? Without getting too specific, I remember having a hard time with it. I ended up choosing the answer that was a defender assumption something about diet affecting tooth decay...

Good news. That's the correct answer

well that's just depressing for me. I think I chose something about the kids starting care earlier in Britain, or something like that. It was one of the ones that I spent a lot of time on as well. I'm still confused as to how these sections seemed so much different as opposed to all the ones that I pt'd with. How did everyone finish in time? I'm seriously pissed the more I think about it. Not sure if I should cancel and be homeless for another year or take my chances.

[ross1004]

Am I the only one who struggled with the mars/earth meteor question?

[Circle Guy]

Long time stalker, first time poster.

Mine went:

LG/LR/LG/RC/LR

The first logic games section tore me a new one, however the 2nd section went quite well. The 1st LG section had the pet apartment (not cats, pets - did they really change the words or were people just misquoting?) and the one about movies. I specifically remember for the second LG section that the first game was a basic one about hiring lawyers, the 3rd game as the Wed AM / Fri AM/PM, and the 4th game as the bird one (which I found really easy, and LG isn't my greatest strength) It seems like they must "cherry pick" through the real questions, as they must have placed some experimental questions in the real section, and vice versa.

I found LR to be fairly normal for me, probably got the first 21 correct and found the remaining 4 questions to be more time consuming (as was usual for me on the prep tests). That one about Mars - I kept thinking it was an "follows logically if...assumption" question as I read it over and over and it just didn't make sense, so I thought something was missing

RC was meh, I just could not follow the passage on bankruptcy close enough and didn't feel too confident in my answers. The other 3 were decent.

I will most likely be writing again in June. Is it a coincidence that they released a rather odd LSAT in terms of experimental sections (assuming everyone remembers correctly!) and that it is a disclosed test?

Edit: I agree with the other posters, and that if this is the case, how can they justify in calling it a truly standardized test?

[displacedsoutherner]

Long time stalker, first time poster.

Mine went:

LG/LR/LG/RC/LR

The first logic games section tore me a new one, however the 2nd section went quite well. The 1st LG section had the pet apartment (not cats, pets - did they really change the words or were people just misquoting?) and the one about movies. I specifically remember for the second LG section that the first game was a basic one about hiring lawyers, the 3rd game as the Wed AM / Fri AM/PM, and the 4th game as the bird one (which I found really easy, and LG isn't my greatest strength) It seems like they must "cherry pick" through the real questions, as they must have placed some experimental questions in the real section, and vice versa.

I found LR to be fairly normal for me, probably got the first 21 correct and found the remaining 4 questions to be more time consuming (as was usual for me on the prep tests). That one about Mars - I kept thinking it was an "follows logically if...assumption" question as I read it over and over and it just didn't make sense, so I thought something was missing

RC was meh, I just could not follow the passage on bankruptcy close enough and didn't feel too confident in my answers. The other 3 were decent.

I will most likely be writing again in June. Is it a coincidence that they released a rather odd LSAT in terms of experimental sections (assuming everyone remembers correctly!) and that it is a disclosed test?

Edit: I agree with the other posters, and that if this is the case, how can they justify in calling it a truly standardized test?

THANK YOU. I think that I may have had the exact same test you did -- and kind of have mixed feelings on the LG real/experimental situation on the whole. On one hand, I'm super glad that the birds question didn't count (hit time on that one); but on the other hand, it really doesn't seem entirely fair as far as time management goes if they mixed up real and experimental questions.

I knew I wasn't crazy about birds and Wed/Fri/Fri being on the same section!

[noleknight16]

What did everyone think about the LR problem about the fluoridated water in Britain and America? Without getting too specific, I remember having a hard time with it. I ended up choosing the answer that was a defender assumption something about diet affecting tooth decay...

Good news. That's the correct answer

well that's just depressing for me. I think I chose something about the kids starting care earlier in Britain, or something like that. It was one of the ones that I spent a lot of time on as well. I'm still confused as to how these sections seemed so much different as opposed to all the ones that I pt'd with. How did everyone finish in time? I'm seriously pissed the more I think about it. Not sure if I should cancel and be homeless for another year or take my chances.

Stick it out. You probably did better than you think.

[Morpheus69]

the one about the planets i remember at that time thinking i did okay, but was again disturbed that i hadn't had to use any conditional jotting yet. There were at least two that I was able to do it in my head because the patterns were almost identical to a lot of the ones i practiced on.
I just couldn't get over how when i tried to do things that are routine like spot the conclusion everything seemed so similar, including the questions.
Sleep escapes me and to make matters worse my top choice (Iowa) sent another email to me. That's one a day for the past four days.
I just keep telling myself "someone is gonna say yes." I have a waiver from lsac so i can submit as many apps as i want, it's just hard to get a feel of what just happened.
I did find a post about why the February tests are undisclosed. If you do a simple google search for " lsat disclosed february " it should be the first thing that comes back. The second thing that comes back is pretty good as well. So basically all the rules that I've heard about being able to get feedback about what I've missed and on what sections is not for February. We just get our score out of 180.
Also, apparently their is a lot of bad stigma about February test-takers. And the hits jut keep on comin'.

[Morpheus69]

Stick it out. You probably did better than you think.

Here's hoping. I think I'm gonna go drink for a while.
Nice avatar by the way. It kinda reminds me of the fact that had my parents let me move away from home and go to high school in Bradenton, Fl where I would've been classmates with LD. Still tough to let go. Yet another reason to drink.

[Nick18]

Anyone remember the parallel the reasoning involving spices? I did not find that question to be too difficult; I remember chosing an answer about frogs or some animal or something.

[luuma]

Long time stalker, first time poster.

Mine went:

LG/LR/LG/RC/LR

The first logic games section tore me a new one, however the 2nd section went quite well. The 1st LG section had the pet apartment (not cats, pets - did they really change the words or were people just misquoting?) and the one about movies. I specifically remember for the second LG section that the first game was a basic one about hiring lawyers, the 3rd game as the Wed AM / Fri AM/PM, and the 4th game as the bird one (which I found really easy, and LG isn't my greatest strength) It seems like they must "cherry pick" through the real questions, as they must have placed some experimental questions in the real section, and vice versa.

I found LR to be fairly normal for me, probably got the first 21 correct and found the remaining 4 questions to be more time consuming (as was usual for me on the prep tests). That one about Mars - I kept thinking it was an "follows logically if...assumption" question as I read it over and over and it just didn't make sense, so I thought something was missing

RC was meh, I just could not follow the passage on bankruptcy close enough and didn't feel too confident in my answers. The other 3 were decent.

I will most likely be writing again in June. Is it a coincidence that they released a rather odd LSAT in terms of experimental sections (assuming everyone remembers correctly!) and that it is a disclosed test?

Edit: I agree with the other posters, and that if this is the case, how can they justify in calling it a truly standardized test?

THANK YOU. I think that I may have had the exact same test you did -- and kind of have mixed feelings on the LG real/experimental situation on the whole. On one hand, I'm super glad that the birds question didn't count (hit time on that one); but on the other hand, it really doesn't seem entirely fair as far as time management goes if they mixed up real and experimental questions.

I knew I wasn't crazy about birds and Wed/Fri/Fri being on the same section!

That's what I meant when I said we'll either get really lucky or unlucky. Because it could mean that I got all 4 four of the games everyone alleges to be the real ones right (if they are cherry picking from the two sections). However if they are scoring per section and the first one is the real one.. then I'm toast. Balls game I found hard. Especially because I choked on one of them and my confidence started sliding. So for me right now... to cancel or not to cancel, is a gamble.

Lol - btw for some reason someone started calling it cats game and it's stuck with us through this thread. So yes they are both the same haha. On my "experimental" I had the Mon/Weds. So they did spread the questions out. But we are a small minority. Thank goodness there are others out there, I was beginning to think my test was an error. Or that I was going LSAT-senile haha.

[FinallyGoing]

I've spoken to a friend who took the test on the other coast, he had double LG with 2 the LG's I had split between the two sections..WTFFFFFFFFFFFFF (posted in 2 relevant threads fyi)

[Fyo'Couch]

What were your responses for the mars/earth meteor question?

(c)an't discuss that.

[beebela]

^^ I would edit that post if I were you, we can't say specific answer choices like that.
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... 6&t=119285

[beebela]

I've spoken to a friend who took the test on the other coast, he had double LG with 2 the LG's I had split between the two sections..WTFFFFFFFFFFFFF (posted in 2 relevant threads fyi)

Yeah, a few people in this thread have talked about that too. And a couple of us had different LR experimental sections than the majority as well. We'll never know what crazy stuff happens on the Feb LSAT though...maybe we're all just going crazy?

[buck]

I've spoken to a friend who took the test on the other coast, he had double LG with 2 the LG's I had split between the two sections..WTFFFFFFFFFFFFF (posted in 2 relevant threads fyi)

I find this hard to believe but guess it's possible. However I very much doubt that LSAC would pick individual games out of a section. Even if it were the case that there are people who had LG sections different from everyone else, lsac will probably score 1 of those whole sections.


I had 2 LGs too and after the test I was confused about which game was in what section but now I'm sure. On my experimental I had a selection game about a law firm choosing clients, a grouping game about 8 people on a camping trip, pure sequencing about street paving and unbalanced sequencing with soccer fields.

[ross1004]

^^ I would edit that post if I were you, we can't say specific answer choices like that.
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... 6&t=119285

warning heeded.

[sooperdooper]

@ beebela above

what do you mean about a different experimental logical reasoning question? can you tell me what are some have said regarding the possible ones?

my test was the LR.LG.LR.LR.RC
I was heavily distracted with the third LR section (right after the break).

but this section I remember had a question about bird beaks.

[bjokay]

did ANYONE have a Reading Comp passage about Chinua Achebe's book Things Fall Apart or a game with KGL? I took it in Guam and I am fairly confident that they gave me a completely different test than the rest of the nation. This will probably make u guys upset, but my test was pretty damn reasonable (finished every problem) and thats coming from a 3rd time test taker with a cancel and a 160 who found december and october to be very difficult. I went on this forum on the morning of my LSAT and thought I would know exactly what was on the test, since you were all talking about it, and when I started taking it I realized that my RC and Games section didn't contain any of these games that you are talking about. Anyone that can give me some insight would be appreciated or maybe someone on the mainland had my same test? HOLLA

[Clearly]

This is TORTURE, its only been one day and I'm already dying to know how I did. I'm trying so hard not to speculate. One practice test I thought I had a 161 and scored 170, one test I thought I scored 174+ and scored 164...Clearly while I'm usually accurate within a range, this test is gonna be tough to estimate. I'm trying to avoid even thinking about it. I'd believe anything from 162-171 at this point. I know I did well on games, and I almost always destroy logical reasoning, and think I did well here too, although I'll admit they were harder then usual...so who knows. I felt like I did well on RC, but I can never tell with that section, plus it was my experimental, so by the time I took RC which was my last section, who knows. While I think I did well, I didn't realize how shot I was till I started the writing sample and had to use scratch paper to spell "believe" lol.

So hows everyone else feeling? I cant be the only one DYING to see the 3 magic number!

I woke up today and actually WANTED to study the LSAT...I got so used to it that I actually miss it. I specifically held off on buying Skyrim, so I wouldn't distract myself, and so I'd have a way to get through the next three weeks, and all I could think while playing it was I'd like to do a hybrid game right now.

I'm having a tough time deciding on what to do from here. My plan at this point is to basically just apply to Fordham, if I get in...I go. If not, I practice, retake it in June, and go to a t14. I could get into a Cardozo or Brooklyn this cycle, but I have a hard time justifying going, when I could wait and do better.

I know everyone thinks they can do better on the lsat, but I studied for basically three weeks. I never plateaued...I was picking up points literally every test...I know with a few months I could blow it away...

[Ronburgandy2468]

@ beebela above

what do you mean about a different experimental logical reasoning question? can you tell me what are some have said regarding the possible ones?

my test was the LR.LG.LR.LR.RC
I was heavily distracted with the third LR section (right after the break).

but this section I remember had a question about bird beaks.

I had 2 real LRs. The dinosaur/bird beak was in one of them.

[ross1004]

Without getting too specific, does anyone remember there being a method of argument question where one of the choices described the argument as using an analogy that was obviously fallacious?

[Impending1L]

Yes and I believe that was TCR.

[ross1004]

Yes and I believe that was TCR.

I think I had it down to that and one other answer choice. Hopefully I made the right selection.

[displacedsoutherner]

Yes and I believe that was TCR.

seconded

[ross1004]

If I could retake the logic games section, I would have done the first game last. That sequencing game was far more time consuming than I anticipated. I ultimately had to guess on four questions. Fortunately I completed every question in every other section.

[hooma]

Am I the only one who struggled with the mars/earth meteor question?

nope, can't remember what I ended up putting or how confident I was about it, but I definitely had to come back to this one at the end of the section.