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I'm on winter break and am studying for the Feb. LSAT. Today I PT'ed my highest ever at 163 on PT 41. I would have gotten a 166 but I missed 4 on the last game in the LG section because it was a circular/spoke diagram game, which I never ever practiced. I still have all of December and January to study and I'm hoping for a 167 but DAMN what a huge confidence booster considering my diagnostic at the beginning of summer was a 138. Hell yeah. Just wanted to post this on TLS because nobody else I know cares lol

Edit: Scroll toward bottom to see how I did on PT 48, which is 2 days after I took PT 41.

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Desert Fox wrote:Great, you can now attend the preftigious University of Illinois.

I know right?! Better than La Verne College of the Law! Woo hoo!

not to be a dick.. but there are some differences btwn PT 41 and the more recent tests to take into consideration..

otherwise, congrats! keep up the good work

gaud wrote:not to be a dick.. but there are some differences btwn PT 41 and the more recent tests to take into consideration..

otherwise, congrats! keep up the good work

Shit, I believe you're right. I just searched some of the threads and everyone is talking about riding the "high" on the 40s. Ah, FML lol. How much more difficult are the 50s and 60s? What gets substantially harder?

Congratulations! More than a month of solid study time can make a difference of up to ten additional points. There's no doubt that you can break 170. Aim at least that high--and do not let anyone tell you that this is unrealistic or that your diagnostic is evidence of an inherent limitation on this test. Keep going my friend; you've got a Yale worthy LSAT score potential.

notaznguy wrote:

gaud wrote:not to be a dick.. but there are some differences btwn PT 41 and the more recent tests to take into consideration..

otherwise, congrats! keep up the good work

Shit, I believe you're right. I just searched some of the threads and everyone is talking about riding the "high" on the 40s. Ah, FML lol. How much more difficult are the 50s and 60s? What gets substantially harder?

they aren't too different from the tests in the 40's so I wouldn't be too worried or nervous or anything like that.


Found this in an old thread... i kinda like it:

Older tests are qualitatively different. Depending on who you are, these changes might make them easier or harder.
Modern tests compared to old tests.
Modern tests...
LG: tend to be less susceptible to by-the-book techniques; more complex sequencing games; more grouping games
LR: have more trap answers; more unusual question stems
RC: have denser passages; more detail questions; more main idea questions and analogy questions - and the new RC passage type
Definitely concentrate on modern material over the last month.

that pretty much sums it up for me... the test is still roughly the same but just make sure as you near your test date that you are using the more recent tests

gaud wrote:

notaznguy wrote:

gaud wrote:not to be a dick.. but there are some differences btwn PT 41 and the more recent tests to take into consideration..

otherwise, congrats! keep up the good work

Shit, I believe you're right. I just searched some of the threads and everyone is talking about riding the "high" on the 40s. Ah, FML lol. How much more difficult are the 50s and 60s? What gets substantially harder?

they aren't too different from the tests in the 40's so I wouldn't be too worried or nervous or anything like that.


Found this in an old thread... i kinda like it:

Older tests are qualitatively different. Depending on who you are, these changes might make them easier or harder.
Modern tests compared to old tests.
Modern tests...
LG: tend to be less susceptible to by-the-book techniques; more complex sequencing games; more grouping games
LR: have more trap answers; more unusual question stems
RC: have denser passages; more detail questions; more main idea questions and analogy questions - and the new RC passage type
Definitely concentrate on modern material over the last month.

that pretty much sums it up for me... the test is still roughly the same but just make sure as you near your test date that you are using the more recent tests

Sounds good. I'm doing 2 PTs a week over 4 weeks with review and drills inbetween each exam. I will start on the 50s for my next 3 PTs and then spend my last 6 or so on modern ones.

congrats! keep it up! you're on the way to the promised land!

notaznguy wrote:I'm on winter break and am studying for the Feb. LSAT. Today I PT'ed my highest ever at 163 on PT 41. I would have gotten a 166 but I missed 4 on the last game in the LG section because it was a circular/spoke diagram game, which I never ever practiced. I still have all of December and January to study and I'm hoping for a 167 but DAMN what a huge confidence booster considering my diagnostic at the beginning of summer was a 138. Hell yeah. Just wanted to post this on TLS because nobody else I know cares lol

God some of those comments missed the mark. I remember the first time I broke 160. Coming up is something these "I'm pissed about my 169" people won't ever understand. It's not just a great feeling; it's a beautiful thing.

Congratulations! You're on your way to achieving something most people never do, that others take for granted! Keep it up

Congrats, keep it up. Focus on your weak spots and aim for the 170s

Thanks guys. I'll take a test in the 50s on Saturday and see what happens. If I can repeat or do better, it'll be LEGIT confidence and not this easy peezy PT 40s high wave crap haha

Congrats!

Congrats! As someone who improved 20 points from his diagnostic, I know how good the improvement feels. But remember, improvement doesn't come from taking more and more tests. You need to REVIEW. Open up that 163 and look through every single question, both right and wrong. Go to the LR questions that you debated between 2 answers and force yourself to understand exactly why one is right and why one is wrong. Try to think about what made you think the wrong answer is right. Take notes on the issues that are tripping you up.

I went from a 154 to a 174 on the real thing. Huge improvements are possible, but only if you do it the right way. Don't fall into the trap of taking test after test. Review and then drill your face off for weeks. Don't take another test until you feel like you've practiced so much that you're guaranteed to get a better score. Good luck!

mickeyD wrote:Congrats! As someone who improved 20 points from his diagnostic, I know how good the improvement feels. But remember, improvement doesn't come from taking more and more tests. You need to REVIEW. Open up that 163 and look through every single question, both right and wrong. Go to the LR questions that you debated between 2 answers and force yourself to understand exactly why one is right and why one is wrong. Try to think about what made you think the wrong answer is right. Take notes on the issues that are tripping you up.

I went from a 154 to a 174 on the real thing. Huge improvements are possible, but only if you do it the right way. Don't fall into the trap of taking test after test. Review and then drill your face off for weeks. Don't take another test until you feel like you've practiced so much that you're guaranteed to get a better score. Good luck!

Wow! Congrats to you too man! I love hearing about this kind of stuff

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Woo hoo! Guys I don't think it was a fluke. I took PT 48 today (5 timed sections, 3rd one being experimental) and I got a 165. Pretty good. Hope I can get into the 170s soon though...

I must admit, I really did feel like shit taking this exam. I only had 2 days rest since taking PT 41 so I kinda half assed it on the experimental section since I consciously knew it was experimental (can't help it though...). I also took the test in the afternoon at 12 PM instead of 10 AM. I did feel that LR 1 was especially hard though and I almost didn't finish the RC section. I guessed on 1 of the questions. My scores were:

LR: -4
LG: -2
RC: -6
LR: -3

This thread made me smile. Genuinely very happy for you and hope you increase until you hit your goals!

Fantastic work. That's a great jump; keep up the excellent practice and you'll be one hell of a contender come February.

Congratulations OP. Your next goal is that coveted 170+ mark. Don't settle for mid 160s as a goal (when you're already there!) with this much time left to prep before the test. You can do it.

Congrats notaznguy,

You've been working on improving your score range for a long time. I'm glad to hear that you have made some significant breakthroughs/improvements.

Just as a friendly reminder: Stay honest when taking timed practice tests down to every single detail. The second 35 minutes expires, that's it for the section, don't give yourself a few extra seconds to finish a problem or bubble in some answers. Only one 15 minute break after section three, no brief breaks between other sections, not even 30 seconds or a minute since that's the way it will be on test day. "Pencils down, stop working on section X, turn the page to section X+1, GO."

Also, don't use scratch paper, and certainly use an official bubble sheet for your answers. You also should transition yourself to taking timed practice tests at the time in the morning the test typically starts (9:15am-10am typically) and take them in an environment away from home that you don't have control over.

One thing I've had students do for timed practice tests close to test day is recruit/bribe a friend to come over and pound on the door at the time you'll need to wake up to get to the test center on time and then be your proctor for the day.

It's hardcore.

The friends job is to play drill sergeant and proctor. That includes the friend putting you through a bunch of time consuming activities before letting you start taking the test. After he/she makes sure you are awake on time to get your morning routine done and have the necessary items in a ziplock bag, you travel to a destination of his/her choice where you will take the test. Must arrive at that destination before 8:30am. Then, once settled in and at a table/desk the friend kills at least 30 minutes reading you instructions and/or whatever nonsense to waste time before handing you the test and answer sheet and gives you permission to start section one.

Desert Fox wrote:Great, you can now attend the preftigious University of Illinois.

Wow. You're quite the dick.

Gail wrote:

Desert Fox wrote:Great, you can now attend the preftigious University of Illinois.

Wow. You're quite the dick.

How dare you, I'm an alumnus.

Awesome man, keep up the good work. Don't listen to the negative posts.