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PT38, Section 2, #8-13

Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2011 10:10 pm
by noleknight16
I am missing a huge deduction in this logic game apparently. It turned an otherwise good game section into a terrible one for me. I looked at the diagram at Manhattan LSAT but I still cannot figure out the reasoning. Need some help

Thanks :)

Re: PT39, Section 2, #8-13

Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2011 10:21 pm
by SanDiegoJake
3 days, 3 identical sessions each day, 3 employees - each has to attend 2 different sessions on 2 different days, right?

2 of the employees only attend sessions on 1st 2 days, and employee 3 never attends one of the sessions, right?

Very easy deduction that I'm sure you made - nobody attends investing (or whichever one Employee 3 cannot attend) on Day 3.

I don't remember many other deductions. What's got you stumped? I just did a 3x3 diagram, with days across the top and sessions down the side, then placed employees in sessions according to the questions...

Re: PT38, Section 2, #8-13

Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2011 10:34 pm
by noleknight16
Ahhh crap!!! I'm sorry. I wrote down the wrong PT. It's PT38. The game with the 6 tasks demonstrated at a farm exhibition and 3 volunteers

Re: PT38, Section 2, #8-13

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 12:09 am
by Manhattan LSAT Noah
noleknight16 wrote: I looked at the diagram at Manhattan LSAT but I still cannot figure out the reasoning. Need some help
Thanks :)
Which inference in particular? I personally hate that game (thus sort of love it?), so I know what you're talking about. A lot of them are based on "piling up" inferences. If F can't be first, and F has to be before G, then when can G come - that sort of thing. There's also a lot of restrictions on folks that can't do certain tasks, leaving one task in someone hands.

Happy to work with you through it (either here or on our forums), but I suggest you sleep on it and then take one more look, especially at the relative ordering rule and the restrictions.

Re: PT38, Section 2, #8-13

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 12:19 am
by noleknight16
Manhattan LSAT Noah wrote:
noleknight16 wrote: I looked at the diagram at Manhattan LSAT but I still cannot figure out the reasoning. Need some help
Thanks :)
Which inference in particular? I personally hate that game (thus sort of love it?), so I know what you're talking about. A lot of them are based on "piling up" inferences. If F can't be first, and F has to be before G, then when can G come - that sort of thing. There's also a lot of restrictions on folks that can't do certain tasks, leaving one task in someone hands.

Happy to work with you through it (either here or on our forums), but I suggest you sleep on it and then take one more look, especially at the relative ordering rule and the restrictions.
I'll get a good nights rest and try the problem again in the morning. If there's no "aha" moment, I'll go on the Manhattan forums and talk to you on there. Thanks you Noah! Love the Manhattan books I bought and the help you guys are always willing to give.

Re: PT38, Section 2, #8-13

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 12:26 am
by barneytrouble
noleknight16 wrote:Ahhh crap!!! I'm sorry. I wrote down the wrong PT. It's PT38. The game with the 6 tasks demonstrated at a farm exhibition and 3 volunteers
I did it sort of like the mauve dinosaur game with 2 rows:

_ _ _ _ _ _
_ _ _ _ _ _

where the top row is the activity, and bottom row is the person. I've seen a lot of people do "F subscript h" for "Frank: harvesting," sort of notation, which seems awful.

Via the rules we know Frank must do harvesting since neither of the other 2 can.

Frank can't be 1st and F<G, so L is the first demonstration.

This answers 2 of the questions before you even get to them. I can't see any real inferences off the top of my head for this one but yeah. HTH.

Re: PT38, Section 2, #8-13

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 1:57 pm
by noleknight16
Thanks guys. I must have been exhausted because I was able to work the game out easily with 100% right after sleeping it off.

:)

Re: PT38, Section 2, #8-13

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 2:12 pm
by Manhattan LSAT Noah
noleknight16 wrote:Thanks guys. I must have been exhausted because I was able to work the game out easily with 100% right after sleeping it off.

:)
Nice. I am going to bask in my "I told you so" since it's a "I told you that you can figure it out." :)

Remember to not take the LSAT at night.

Re: PT38, Section 2, #8-13

Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2011 7:52 am
by yipeng024
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