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What was the consensus over Oct LSAT?

Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 1:42 pm
by WhiteGuy5
I know there was a lot of chatter immediately afterwards, but did a consensus emerge over which one was the experimental? And how many questions were there?

I had LR LG LR RC LR

Re: What was the consensus over Oct LSAT?

Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 2:00 pm
by qbt1990
The consensus is that different people had their experimentals in different spots. There were at least 3-4 versions of the 3LR test.

Re: What was the consensus over Oct LSAT?

Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 6:19 pm
by WhiteGuy5
What about the # of questions? 101 or 102?

Re: What was the consensus over Oct LSAT?

Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2011 6:06 am
by Ocean64
what about consensus on difficulty?

Re: What was the consensus over Oct LSAT?

Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2011 10:04 am
by Jeffort
Ocean64 wrote:what about consensus on difficulty?
Achieving a 170+ score was difficult, only a very small percentage of people that took it will get a score release email that says 17X or 180 sometime soon. Somewhere in the ballpark of 98% of people that took it will get a number lower than 170 in the email.

Re: What was the consensus over Oct LSAT?

Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2011 10:07 am
by sportgirl234
but thats not any different than any other lsat...maybe i'm missing the joke

Re: What was the consensus over Oct LSAT?

Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2011 10:17 am
by Jeffort
sportgirl234 wrote:but thats not any different than any other lsat...maybe i'm missing the joke
You got the logical point of it. It is a standardized test designed to test and rate ability/performance/skill level, not a test graded on a forced curve against the other people that took the same one. Each scaled score represents the same performance/ability level regardless of the test form or date of administration, similar to how a ruler measures zero to twelve inches the same way every time or a stop-watch clocks how fast the competitors ran a 100 yard dash. The comparative percentile rank 'curve' of test takers performance based on scaled scores is just a natural byproduct of how the population of test takers have performed in the previous three years of testing.

I was trying to be sarcastic.

Re: What was the consensus over Oct LSAT?

Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2011 11:04 am
by sportgirl234
haha im sorry my brain is fried this morning generally do more or less people test in dec?

Re: What was the consensus over Oct LSAT?

Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2011 11:20 am
by Jeffort
sportgirl234 wrote:haha im sorry my brain is fried this morning generally do more or less people test in dec?
No worries.

Test taker volume is less in December than in October administrations. October (September some years) has always been the highest volume administration with December always being second highest.

The stats are here: http://www.lsac.org/LSACResources/Data/ ... stered.asp

Re: What was the consensus over Oct LSAT?

Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2011 11:50 am
by S-IV
They may as well just not send a score, but a percentile. After all, that's all that matters.

Re: What was the consensus over Oct LSAT?

Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2011 11:52 am
by kwais
S-IV wrote:They may as well just not send a score, but a percentile. After all, that's all that matters.
are you saying there is no difference between a 173 and a 180?

Re: What was the consensus over Oct LSAT?

Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2011 12:01 pm
by Jeffort
S-IV wrote:They may as well just not send a score, but a percentile. After all, that's all that matters.
For better or for worse, scaled scores matter a lot to the law schools, especially because of how the are used for making admission decisions and subsequently weighed to calculate school rankings.

Re: What was the consensus over Oct LSAT?

Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2011 6:37 pm
by imjustjoking22
kwais wrote:
S-IV wrote:They may as well just not send a score, but a percentile. After all, that's all that matters.
are you saying there is no difference between a 173 and a 180?
Those scores are different percentiles...