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The only type of LG game that consistently takes me more than 10 minutes to do is Grouping: Defined-Fixed, Unbalanced: Overloaded. Anyone have advice for this game type, besides reviewing the LGB grouping section?

I'm also having trouble with grouping games, so hopefully someone comes through!

For me its not all Grouping games, just the specific type I mentioned. I think most of the trouble comes when I make my setup, and its mostly empty.

I find it helpful to write all the rules down in an actual in/out chart. Makes it very visual and easy to tackle. These used to be my weakness to until I started using a chart.

lrslayer wrote:I find it helpful to write all the rules down in an actual in/out chart. Makes it very visual and easy to tackle. These used to be my weakness to until I started using a chart.

Could you maybe give an example? Ive only used Powerscore and I cant remember anything about in/out charts

msuz wrote:

lrslayer wrote:I find it helpful to write all the rules down in an actual in/out chart. Makes it very visual and easy to tackle. These used to be my weakness to until I started using a chart.

Could you maybe give an example? Ive only used Powerscore and I cant remember anything about in/out charts

No problem, I answered a question for someone yesterday in the following link with an actual picture of the setup. This one has a couple of layers, but I am sure you will get the idea:
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... 6&t=164686

lrslayer wrote:

msuz wrote:

lrslayer wrote:I find it helpful to write all the rules down in an actual in/out chart. Makes it very visual and easy to tackle. These used to be my weakness to until I started using a chart.

Could you maybe give an example? Ive only used Powerscore and I cant remember anything about in/out charts

No problem, I answered a question for someone yesterday in the following link with an actual picture of the setup. This one has a couple of layers, but I am sure you will get the idea:
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... 6&t=164686

Looks like that picture has been taken down.

Maye wrote:

lrslayer wrote:

msuz wrote:

lrslayer wrote:I find it helpful to write all the rules down in an actual in/out chart. Makes it very visual and easy to tackle. These used to be my weakness to until I started using a chart.

Could you maybe give an example? Ive only used Powerscore and I cant remember anything about in/out charts

No problem, I answered a question for someone yesterday in the following link with an actual picture of the setup. This one has a couple of layers, but I am sure you will get the idea:
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... 6&t=164686

Looks like that picture has been taken down.

ok, here is a pic of it fresh off my comp.
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Edit: The notes on the right side were the answers to his questions. But I just want you to see what I mean by charting the rules in a very visual way. Like I said, this one is a few layers. Usually you can have just 2 columns, in/out.

Thank you. This is helpful (for me anyway). I hadn't thought of visualizing the rules that way.