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And I'm a Puerto Rican male. Think I can get into the 170s and lock it up?

If you're starting off at 166, you need to focus on controlling test day nerves and simulating test conditions while drilling your question type weaknesses. You're in a pretty decent place as it is.


If you're aiming for 170+, you should want to put your 10-test PT average at least at 173-174 to feel secure.

My weakest section is Logical Reasoning but I was perfect on Logic Games on my diagnostic. Is LR easy to improve?

Flame. No one gets a full logic games section on their diagnostic.

HYSnNothingLess wrote:My weakest section is Logical Reasoning but I was perfect on Logic Games on my diagnostic. Is LR easy to improve?

LG is considered the most learnable (with -0 on that, you're ahead of the game), but LR isn't too bad either. You need to take a look at the types of questions you're primarily missing and find a method that works for you.


Also, onthemoney, you're apparently looking at two.

onthemoney wrote:Flame. No one gets a full logic games section on their diagnostic.

I finished logic games with three minutes to spare. It's so easy if you just understand the rules and scribble a quick diagram on a nice piece of paper.

I got a 166 on my diagnostic, had a bit of trouble breaking into the 170s, but then started scoring consistently in the mid-170s the last couple weeks after getting through most of my prep work. I ended up with a 174, which was my most common score, though a bit disappointing, since I had a few in the high-170s. But you get the URM bump and a 174 puts you into HYS with a decent GPA.

incompetentia wrote:

HYSnNothingLess wrote:My weakest section is Logical Reasoning but I was perfect on Logic Games on my diagnostic. Is LR easy to improve?

LG is considered the most learnable (with -0 on that, you're ahead of the game), but LR isn't too bad either. You need to take a look at the types of questions you're primarily missing and find a method that works for you.


Also, onthemoney, you're apparently looking at two.

Two what?

incompetentia wrote:

HYSnNothingLess wrote:My weakest section is Logical Reasoning but I was perfect on Logic Games on my diagnostic. Is LR easy to improve?

LG is considered the most learnable (with -0 on that, you're ahead of the game), but LR isn't too bad either. You need to take a look at the types of questions you're primarily missing and find a method that works for you.


Also, onthemoney, you're apparently looking at two.

OK thanks for the advice, my friend.
Would Kaplan courses be a waste of money if I'm only struggling on Logical Reasoning?

HYSnNothingLess wrote: OK thanks for the advice, my friend.
Would Kaplan courses be a waste of money if I'm only struggling on Logical Reasoning?

Kaplan courses are generally a waste of money in general. I don't think you need any courses considering the level you're at right now. Smart self-study should be all you need.

PSUdevon wrote:I got a 166 on my diagnostic, had a bit of trouble breaking into the 170s, but then started scoring consistently in the mid-170s the last couple weeks after getting through most of my prep work. I ended up with a 174, which was my most common score, though a bit disappointing, since I had a few in the high-170s. But you get the URM bump and a 174 puts you into HYS with a decent GPA.

I have a 3.8 right now. I'd say + or - .05 by next June.

Would 3.8/166 get me HYS?

HYSnNothingLess wrote:

PSUdevon wrote:I got a 166 on my diagnostic, had a bit of trouble breaking into the 170s, but then started scoring consistently in the mid-170s the last couple weeks after getting through most of my prep work. I ended up with a 174, which was my most common score, though a bit disappointing, since I had a few in the high-170s. But you get the URM bump and a 174 puts you into HYS with a decent GPA.

I have a 3.8 right now. I'd say + or - .05 by next June.

Would 3.8/166 get me HYS?

166 is your cold score. If you put in even a little bit of work, you'll be into the 170s. No sense worrying whether that would or wouldn't.

HYSnNothingLess wrote: Would 3.8/166 get me HYS?

Possibly, but don't take this as a reason not to prep.

onthemoney wrote:Flame. No one gets a full logic games section on their diagnostic.

I think that sounds right. I don't see how anyone could get -0 on games with no training.

HYSnNothingLess wrote:

PSUdevon wrote:I got a 166 on my diagnostic, had a bit of trouble breaking into the 170s, but then started scoring consistently in the mid-170s the last couple weeks after getting through most of my prep work. I ended up with a 174, which was my most common score, though a bit disappointing, since I had a few in the high-170s. But you get the URM bump and a 174 puts you into HYS with a decent GPA.

I have a 3.8 right now. I'd say + or - .05 by next June.

Would 3.8/166 get me HYS?

Probably not.
LSN for H
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lawgod wrote:

onthemoney wrote:Flame. No one gets a full logic games section on their diagnostic.

I think that sounds right. I don't see how anyone could get -0 on games with no training.

I have the Powerscore Logic Games book (although I only opened it once or twice so far) and did do about five or six practice logic games over the summer. I think I just have a natural aptitude for it.

Bildungsroman wrote:

HYSnNothingLess wrote:

PSUdevon wrote:I got a 166 on my diagnostic, had a bit of trouble breaking into the 170s, but then started scoring consistently in the mid-170s the last couple weeks after getting through most of my prep work. I ended up with a 174, which was my most common score, though a bit disappointing, since I had a few in the high-170s. But you get the URM bump and a 174 puts you into HYS with a decent GPA.

I have a 3.8 right now. I'd say + or - .05 by next June.

Would 3.8/166 get me HYS?

Probably not.
LSN for H
LSN for Y

I want to be like ads22

HYSnNothingLess wrote:

lawgod wrote:

onthemoney wrote:Flame. No one gets a full logic games section on their diagnostic.

I think that sounds right. I don't see how anyone could get -0 on games with no training.

I have the Powerscore Logic Games book (although I only opened it once or twice so far) and did do about five or six practice logic games over the summer. I think I just have a natural aptitude for it.

Then you can't call it a diagnostic! Geez!

There are people who can -0 LG cold.

onthemoney wrote:

HYSnNothingLess wrote:

lawgod wrote:

onthemoney wrote:Flame. No one gets a full logic games section on their diagnostic.

I think that sounds right. I don't see how anyone could get -0 on games with no training.

I have the Powerscore Logic Games book (although I only opened it once or twice so far) and did do about five or six practice logic games over the summer. I think I just have a natural aptitude for it.

Then you can't call it a diagnostic! Geez!

incompetentia wrote:There are people who can -0 LG cold.

If you read the OP's later post's, the OP did not do it cold. If the OP can't face his own truth in an anonymous internet forum, I say on test day the OP's score will be way lower than the "diagnostic."

onthemoney wrote:

incompetentia wrote:There are people who can -0 LG cold.

If the OP can't face his own truth in an anonymous internet forum, I say on test day the OP's score will be way lower than the "diagnostic."

You sound like an angry old man.

HYSnNothingLess wrote:

onthemoney wrote:

incompetentia wrote:There are people who can -0 LG cold.

If the OP can't face his own truth in an anonymous internet forum, I say on test day the OP's score will be way lower than the "diagnostic."

You sound like an angry old man.

At least I don't post smiley faces like a teenage girl. Hrrrrmph.

onthemoney wrote:

incompetentia wrote:There are people who can -0 LG cold.

If you read the OP's later post's, the OP did not do it cold. If the OP can't face his own truth in an anonymous internet forum, I say on test day the OP's score will be way lower than the "diagnostic."

Uh, which side are you on exactly?

HYSnNothingLess wrote:And I'm a Puerto Rican male. Think I can get into the 170s and lock it up?

For HYS? No. Hit a 170 and then you're probably in the conversation. 166 just won't do it. Check out law school predictor.

Also, this should be in the "What Are My Chances" thread. Not LSAT prep and discussion...