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blew off writing sample

Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 1:47 am
by henry flower
I think I rocked the test (except for stained glass, where I got the main inference, but still had to make some educated guesses), but at the end I was feeling mentally exhausted and a little cocky. My writing sample topic was ridiculously mundane (summer childcare?) and I ended up writing the sample with a humorous tone. I also included quite a few background details that weren't given in the topic, to make it a little more "interesting."

I don't think it's terrible piece of writing considering the circumstances, but it probably was not exactly appropriate, and now I'm regretting my lighthearted approach. Do you guys think it'll hurt me?

Re: blew off writing sample

Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 1:52 am
by iphone7
Nope. The writing sample doesn't matter. If you fee like you did well then congrats!

Re: blew off writing sample

Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 1:54 am
by KevinP
Here's my checklist for determining how good my writing section is:

Wrote name on both sheets? Check.
Wrote topic code correctly? Check.
Wrote more than 10 words for the writing section? Check

So I'm good to go.

Re: blew off writing sample

Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 1:56 am
by St.Remy
As long as you didn't write anything offensive then you're probably be fine. I would wager that 95% of schools don't even look at them except to make sure you didn't just draw a huge penis over the entire sheet.

Re: blew off writing sample

Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 1:58 am
by birdlaw117
St.Remy wrote:As long as you didn't write anything offensive then you're probably be fine. I would wager that 95% of schools don't even look at them except to make sure you didn't just draw a huge penis over the entire sheet.
Shiiitttttt...

Re: blew off writing sample

Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 11:32 am
by you_were_driving
my understanding of the writing sample has always been that it wont help your application in any way, but if you just don't do it, make no sense, write illegibly, etc. it can certainly hurt your chances.

most schools probably don't look at it, but its really not hard to write a few semi-coherent paragraphs to satisfy any adcomms that feel the need to dig into your file beyond the numbers.

Re: blew off writing sample

Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 11:46 am
by joebloe
Yeah, so long as you didn't write anything blatantly offensive you should be fine. Writing sample might have mattered more in the past when nobody did personal statements and legible handwriting was a requirement for any non-menial job. Adcomms have to say they look at it even if they don't; I could see an admission of completely ignoring any portion of someone's application materials grounds for a (probably frivolous) lawsuit.

Re: blew off writing sample

Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 1:44 pm
by 2014
Everyone had the same Little Wang topic btw, wasn't just you.

Re: blew off writing sample

Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 1:55 pm
by verklempt
I was still bummed about stained glass, so having a topic that I knew something about provided comic relief. Are there bugs at this camp? What about carpooling? It was good to end the test on a high.

Now, here's my question. They give you a piece of scratch paper to write an essay. If this were a research paper then sure, you'd need a place for your notes, but for an off-the-top essay? I had so much time I just drew pictures on it after I filled the essay pages. On the other hand, I could have used that sucker for the LG. Why not just hand out one piece of paper at the beginning and collect it at the end? Allow people to use it as they see fit!

Re: blew off writing sample

Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 2:04 pm
by 2014
My question about the essay was whether Little Wang would fit in at the 2nd camp. Most summer camps that fit the description of that one are extremely expensive and almost 100% Jewish (I've been a counselor before, not pulling this out of my ass) and would Little Wang really fit in?

Re: blew off writing sample

Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 2:07 pm
by 2011Law
Mine was 98 words in two paragraphs.

Re: blew off writing sample

Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 2:07 pm
by DoubleChecks
Probably does not matter, esp. if it is just a light hearted approach and not a complete blow-off/offensive.

But i have had some adcomms tell me that a few (not all) like to look at it and give it a good amount of weight (relative to the PS, not your #s lol) because, unlike the PS, the writing sample shows "true raw writing skill." Now im sure they are in the minority, but personally I would have taken it more seriously just because i see no reason as to why i should close any doors (even if it is just 1).

Re: blew off writing sample

Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 2:10 pm
by FlanAl
please tell me someone put square ponds camp

Re: blew off writing sample

Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 2:10 pm
by joebloe
2014 wrote:My question about the essay was whether Little Wang would fit in at the 2nd camp. Most summer camps that fit the description of that one are extremely expensive and almost 100% Jewish (I've been a counselor before, not pulling this out of my ass) and would Little Wang really fit in?
My god, I was totally thinking this.

Re: blew off writing sample

Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 2:15 pm
by Rawlberto
Mine was two paragraphs and I drew a bitchin T-Rex on the back, no joke.

Re: blew off writing sample

Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 2:22 pm
by Canadiana
WS was obv testing our ability to refrain from making penis jokes.

Re: blew off writing sample

Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 2:24 pm
by verklempt
Well, it is interesting that the ethnicity of the family could be inferred from the name. Would you all have responded differently had the surname been Goldstein?

The prompt did say, as I recall, that both camps fit within the Wangs' finances. I personally hate the wilderness and wouldn't want to sit on a bus for an hour each day going to and from camp. I figured my response might make an admissions officer smile, which is never a bad thing. Not that I expect anyone will ever actually read it.

Re: blew off writing sample

Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 2:31 pm
by joebloe
verklempt wrote:[...] Would you all have responded differently had the surname been Goldstein? [...]
Responded differently? No. Thought differently? Yes.

Re: blew off writing sample

Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 2:33 pm
by 2014
joebloe wrote:
verklempt wrote:[...] Would you all have responded differently had the surname been Goldstein? [...]
Responded differently? No. Thought differently? Yes.
++

I sent Little Wang to Outdoors camp regardless of perceived cultural differences.

Re: blew off writing sample

Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 3:56 pm
by Flips88
Was anyone else annoyed that they purposefully left it gender netural i.e. "their ten year old child"? when i was writing I was annoyed I had to stay mindful of pronouns, use the phrase "the child" a lot, and in any possessive sentence about the child write "its".

Re: blew off writing sample

Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 4:18 pm
by FlanAl
St.Remy wrote:As long as you didn't write anything offensive then you're probably be fine. I would wager that 95% of schools don't even look at them except to make sure you didn't just draw a huge penis over the entire sheet.
well we did have to write a whole essay about WANGS

Re: blew off writing sample

Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 4:21 pm
by Columbia Law
you_were_driving wrote:my understanding of the writing sample has always been that it wont help your application in any way, but if you just don't do it, make no sense, write illegibly, etc. it can certainly hurt your chances.

most schools probably don't look at it, but its really not hard to write a few semi-coherent paragraphs to satisfy any adcomms that feel the need to dig into your file beyond the numbers.
How would you even know that? This site is so funny sometimes. Do you have experience or evidence where it have hurt someone? I spent no more than 10 minutes on it and substituted my GF's name for the LULZ when it came out on the pdf. My applications weren't hurt at all.

Re: blew off writing sample

Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 4:23 pm
by joebloe
Flips88 wrote:Was anyone else annoyed that they purposefully left it gender netural i.e. "their ten year old child"? when i was writing I was annoyed I had to stay mindful of pronouns, use the phrase "the child" a lot, and in any possessive sentence about the child write "its".
As long as you weren't a dork who uses "xe" and "xer".

Re: blew off writing sample

Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 4:24 pm
by arism87
joebloe wrote:
Flips88 wrote:Was anyone else annoyed that they purposefully left it gender netural i.e. "their ten year old child"? when i was writing I was annoyed I had to stay mindful of pronouns, use the phrase "the child" a lot, and in any possessive sentence about the child write "its".
As long as you weren't a dork who uses "xe" and "xer".
Bahahahaha. Admission denied. (If anyone even noticed.)

Re: blew off writing sample

Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 4:29 pm
by joebloe
Columbia Law wrote:
you_were_driving wrote:my understanding of the writing sample has always been that it wont help your application in any way, but if you just don't do it, make no sense, write illegibly, etc. it can certainly hurt your chances.

most schools probably don't look at it, but its really not hard to write a few semi-coherent paragraphs to satisfy any adcomms that feel the need to dig into your file beyond the numbers.
How would you even know that? This site is so funny sometimes. Do you have experience or evidence where it have hurt someone? I spent no more than 10 minutes on it and substituted my GF's name for the LULZ when it came out on the pdf. My applications weren't hurt at all.
How nice to know you're willing to take that kind of risk based on word of mouth. All I'm saying is it's 35 minutes, a pencil, and some paper. It's not something to fret over, but why shouldn't you take it seriously? It's like assuming the kids on the playground are right about a rattlesnake actually being dead, and then playing with it.