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Don't Cancel: DEC LSAT always Biggest Curve

Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2010 10:42 pm
by Plato's Thoughts
The Dec LSAT has had the biggest curve in recent years.

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Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2010 10:43 pm
by SchopenhauerFTW
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Re: Don't Cancel: DEC LSAT always Biggest Curve

Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2010 10:47 pm
by jd20132013
Anyone have the curve history handy?

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Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2010 10:48 pm
by SchopenhauerFTW
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Re: Don't Cancel: DEC LSAT always Biggest Curve

Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2010 10:56 pm
by Anomaly
The argument is most vulnerable to criticism on the grounds that

A)relies on testimony from a sample that is unrepresentative
B)presumes what it sets out to establish
C)mistakes a cause of the biggest LSAT curve for an effect
D)presumes without justification that a traditional phenomenon of December LSATS will inevitably continue in the future
E)the recommendation is based on wishful thinking

Re: Don't Cancel: DEC LSAT always Biggest Curve

Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2010 10:57 pm
by minnie112
verrry clever lol

Re: Don't Cancel: DEC LSAT always Biggest Curve

Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2010 10:58 pm
by DukeCornell
minnie112 wrote:verrry clever lol
+1 :lol:

Re: Don't Cancel: DEC LSAT always Biggest Curve

Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2010 10:59 pm
by AshtonB
Fuck, I'd be happy as a clam with a 161/162 at this point. Sad but true. Here's hoping the curve will yield that for me.

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Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2010 11:02 pm
by SchopenhauerFTW
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Re: Don't Cancel: DEC LSAT always Biggest Curve

Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2010 11:04 pm
by ATR
Anomaly wrote:The argument is most vulnerable to criticism on the grounds that

A)relies on testimony from a sample that is unrepresentative
B)presumes what it sets out to establish
C)mistakes a cause of the biggest LSAT curve for an effect
D)presumes without justification that a traditional phenomenon of December LSATS will inevitably continue in the future
E)the recommendation is based on wishful thinking
Please don't.

Re: Don't Cancel: DEC LSAT always Biggest Curve

Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2010 11:09 pm
by jerrymander
I agree this test was a bear, but I don't think the curve is guaranteed to be generous, at all. In my experience taking PTs 39-61, curves just do not correlate well with difficulty. See PT 57 - one of the toughest LSATs I've ever seen (harder than today's), with a -11 curve I believe. Also see the June 2007 LSAT (PT 51.5), with medium games but above average RC and LR, for a -8 curve. Go figure.

I am hoping for a generous curve, but really would not be shocked by -11.

Re: Don't Cancel: DEC LSAT always Biggest Curve

Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2010 11:11 pm
by ATR
Flow chart: day of LSAT

Wake up --> take LSAT --> run to TLS ---> complain about LSAT difficulty --> speculate on monster curve ---> (month later) be disappointed by -10 curve

Re: Don't Cancel: DEC LSAT always Biggest Curve

Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2010 11:12 pm
by lightenrain
+1 :D
Anomaly wrote:The argument is most vulnerable to criticism on the grounds that

A)relies on testimony from a sample that is unrepresentative
B)presumes what it sets out to establish
C)mistakes a cause of the biggest LSAT curve for an effect
D)presumes without justification that a traditional phenomenon of December LSATS will inevitably continue in the future
E)the recommendation is based on wishful thinking

Re: Don't Cancel: DEC LSAT always Biggest Curve

Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2010 11:12 pm
by robotclubmember
Plato's Thoughts wrote:The Dec LSAT has had the biggest curve in recent years.
-8 in '05

Re: Don't Cancel: DEC LSAT always Biggest Curve

Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2010 11:26 pm
by xmrmckenziex
I think that a lot of people are also forgetting information that some people dub crucial to how the curve would eventually be determined. In a terrible economy, many people are seeking stronger professional jobs or attempting to stay out of the working world for longer periods of time when they would usually immediately jump into it. Now, based off of Logic I can't say that this has caused increases in the number of LSAT test takers in the last 18 months; however, I will state that the LSAT is seeing its largest numbers of test takers since the inception of the test.

With more test takers, comes more individuals who score near the mean of a bell curve and (in theory) bring down the curve. It is also hard to argue against recent trends in the LSAT curves (-9) being the lowest in the last 8 tests w/ the -9 being almost 2 years ago. I'm not saying expect -15 or -16 or that the difficulty will necessarily correlate with the curve. But, I do think it would be extremely unlikely that this curve isn't AT LEAST as forgiving as Oct 10's (-12)

Re: Don't Cancel: DEC LSAT always Biggest Curve

Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2010 11:28 pm
by Plato's Thoughts
Anomaly wrote:The argument is most vulnerable to criticism on the grounds that

A)relies on testimony from a sample that is unrepresentative
B)presumes what it sets out to establish
C)mistakes a cause of the biggest LSAT curve for an effect
D)presumes without justification that a traditional phenomenon of December LSATS will inevitably continue in the future
E)the recommendation is based on wishful thinking
LMFAO

Re: Don't Cancel: DEC LSAT always Biggest Curve

Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 12:30 am
by w.ftw
haha, you guys make me laugh

Re: Don't Cancel: DEC LSAT always Biggest Curve

Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 1:03 am
by dani37
Anomaly wrote:The argument is most vulnerable to criticism on the grounds that

A)relies on testimony from a sample that is unrepresentative
B)presumes what it sets out to establish
C)mistakes a cause of the biggest LSAT curve for an effect
D)presumes without justification that a traditional phenomenon of December LSATS will inevitably continue in the future
E)the recommendation is based on wishful thinking
None of the above....there is going to be a huge curve on the December LSAT. Get out of test mode!

Re: Don't Cancel: DEC LSAT always Biggest Curve

Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 1:08 am
by pattonthicke
jerrymander wrote:See PT 57 - one of the toughest LSATs I've ever seen (harder than today's),
This post actually scares me. I thought maybe i just struggled with pt57 but the rc was one of the hardest ever, and of course lg consisted of dinos

Re: Don't Cancel: DEC LSAT always Biggest Curve

Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 10:43 am
by niederbomb
PT 57 LG was easier than 61's because even dinos split wide open once you made a few key deductions, and game 1,2, and 4 were relatively easy. PT 61 had a lot of plug and chug, and from what I hear, PT 62 was much worse.

Some people (such as myself) freak out when we don't see the key deductions our PS Bibles (etc.) tell us always exist and waste valuable time searching in vain.

That said, although I took a different version, I think everything tracks pretty closely, and I don't think the RC was as bad as PT 59's.

I'm guessing a curve that is both -12 AND -13 for 170.

Re: Don't Cancel: DEC LSAT always Biggest Curve

Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 10:49 am
by thenewgeneration
The december lsat was tough. Does anyone know what the experimental section was. RC LR RC LG LR

Re: Don't Cancel: DEC LSAT always Biggest Curve

Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 10:51 am
by Anomaly
bebop jazz and comparative reading with scientists & paranormal activity was expo

Re: Don't Cancel: DEC LSAT always Biggest Curve

Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 10:58 am
by thenewgeneration
Does anyone know the curve for the dec lsat? Furthermore, what section did people find difficult on yesterdays lsat :oops:

Re: Don't Cancel: DEC LSAT always Biggest Curve

Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 4:25 pm
by confusedlawyer
thenewgeneration wrote:Does anyone know the curve for the dec lsat? Furthermore, what section did people find difficult on yesterdays lsat :oops:
Do you really have to ask??? LOl just go to the reactions thread, 27 pages of cursing logic games.

Re: Don't Cancel: DEC LSAT always Biggest Curve

Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 5:04 pm
by benito
atresia wrote:Flow chart: day of LSAT

Wake up --> take LSAT --> run to TLS ---> complain about LSAT difficulty --> speculate on monster curve ---> (month later) be disappointed by -10 curve

YES! this was an awesome post.......it happens every time