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Was Oct. test considered easy, average, or hard?

Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 8:48 pm
by gabletrained
Compared to tests from the past. What is the general consensus?

Re: Was Oct. test considered easy, average, or hard?

Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 8:50 pm
by kwais
Some may disagree, but I would say that it was on the easy side of average. Especially in the games department

Re: Was Oct. test considered easy, average, or hard?

Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 8:50 pm
by kkklick
Well I'm sure we'll find out tomorrow won't we...

Re: Was Oct. test considered easy, average, or hard?

Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 8:51 pm
by HowdyYall
predictable games. RC- average for last few LSATs, LG- harder/novel question types?

Re: Was Oct. test considered easy, average, or hard?

Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 8:52 pm
by kwais
I freakin hope so

Re: Was Oct. test considered easy, average, or hard?

Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 8:55 pm
by JoeShmoe11
LG - easy-ish. RC - easy. LR - pretty tough. Overall a 4.5 out of 10 I'd say where the average difficulty test is a 5. But a lot of people took it and it was an October test so I can almost guarantee a curve of -10.

Re: Was Oct. test considered easy, average, or hard?

Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 8:55 pm
by KevinP
Average to a bit harder, I would bet a -11 or -12 curve.
The games seemed straight forward... just time consuming.
LR was a bit weird and had a few new question types.
RC was easier (closer to pre-50s) tests on passages 1-3. But the transnational passage was difficult.

Re: Was Oct. test considered easy, average, or hard?

Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 9:06 pm
by am060459
KevinP wrote:Average to a bit harder, I would bet a -11 or -12 curve.
+1

Re: Was Oct. test considered easy, average, or hard?

Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 9:07 pm
by Sandro
-11 or -12 curve


OR -14 !!! MUHAUHAHUHA

Re: Was Oct. test considered easy, average, or hard?

Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 9:10 pm
by Rikkugrrl
LG: Easier than average, but not super easy
LR1: Harder than average
LR2: Easier than average
RC: Average (except the last passage, that one was harder than average)

My prediction: -10 or -11

Re: Was Oct. test considered easy, average, or hard?

Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 9:14 pm
by 58932ugahoige
Remember this is not a representative sample. Logic games were time consuming; most people would not have finished. That may lower the curve. At the same time, Logical Reasoning was time consuming and a bit more difficult, but I'm sure people came to the right answers. I venture -10, -11.

There is also like, 9 bajillion threads on this already.

Re: Was Oct. test considered easy, average, or hard?

Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 9:19 pm
by KevinP
Also, the influx of people taking the LSAT due to the economy could have made the curve more generous.

Re: Was Oct. test considered easy, average, or hard?

Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 9:23 pm
by masterthearts
It seems like all posters get 170+ ,but I guess you'll need to prove your score, per the new rulses. So no one will be able to make stuff up

Re: Was Oct. test considered easy, average, or hard?

Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 9:27 pm
by risktaker
I say a surprising -13 curve for the October 2010 test!

Re: Was Oct. test considered easy, average, or hard?

Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 9:29 pm
by Sandro
risktaker wrote:I say a surprising -13 curve for the October 2010 test!
not out of the question according to some guy on here who had way too much free time and analyzed the curve as it relates to every June/Oct test since the start.

Re: Was Oct. test considered easy, average, or hard?

Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 11:35 pm
by JurisDoctorate
Most of you are out of your minds.

While some may say it was "easy", that does not necessarily mean they would score higher. With the LG, there were SO MANY hypo's that performance on the LG will be as low as it's ever been. The LR had enough curveballs to trick a bunch, as well as some formidable difficult questions.

Additionally, with all of these students taking the LSAT who have not prepared and are only taking the test of the economy - scores will be down. If the curve is lower than -12, I'll be shocked and I'll completely eat crow. However, I'd be just as shocked if the curve was lower than -14.

I am certain that it will be -15 and we are in a trend that will lead to a -20, within the next 5 years.

Re: Was Oct. test considered easy, average, or hard?

Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 11:38 pm
by JJDancer
weird new LR.
average RC (based on recent ones PT 55+)
easier games but a couple of tricky things/possible rule messup --> time constraint

WE WILL TELL YOU AFTER WE GET OUR SCORES/THE CURVE

Re: Was Oct. test considered easy, average, or hard?

Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 11:39 pm
by etown989
Rikkugrrl wrote:LG: Easier than average, but not super easy
LR1: Harder than average
LR2: Easier than average
RC: Average (except the last passage, that one was harder than average)

My prediction: -10 or -11
agreed 100% on all points

Re: Was Oct. test considered easy, average, or hard?

Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 11:40 pm
by Ragged
I thought overall it was much easier except for the 26 LR, which had a handful of tricky questions.

Re: Was Oct. test considered easy, average, or hard?

Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 11:41 pm
by kkklick
Basically my feeling is there is a HUGE population of those taking the LSAT who aren't adequately prepared. This LSAT was easy for those who were fully or over prepared but presented huge difficulties for those who didn't prepare enough.

Re: Was Oct. test considered easy, average, or hard?

Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 11:41 pm
by kkklick
Ragged wrote:I thought overall it was much easier except for the 26 LR, which had a handful of tricky questions.
True, Ragged good luck tomorrow my friend. May the force be with you

Re: Was Oct. test considered easy, average, or hard?

Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 11:42 pm
by jazzmastersc
JurisDoctorate wrote:Most of you are out of your minds.

While some may say it was "easy", that does not necessarily mean they would score higher. With the LG, there were SO MANY hypo's that performance on the LG will be as low as it's ever been. The LR had enough curveballs to trick a bunch, as well as some formidable difficult questions.

Additionally, with all of these students taking the LSAT who have not prepared and are only taking the test of the economy - scores will be down. If the curve is lower than -12, I'll be shocked and I'll completely eat crow. However, I'd be just as shocked if the curve was lower than -14.

I am certain that it will be -15 and we are in a trend that will lead to a -20, within the next 5 years.
In five years will all Tier 1 and 2 schools then have a median LSAT of around 168?

Re: Was Oct. test considered easy, average, or hard?

Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 11:44 pm
by NJcollegestudent
Its quite difficult to actually get a consensus and thus can only be based on your performance. Logic games were tough, LR were about average and perhaps a bit easier, and RC seemed normal.

Re: Was Oct. test considered easy, average, or hard?

Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 11:45 pm
by 3|ink
Easy.

Re: Was Oct. test considered easy, average, or hard?

Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2010 12:11 am
by JurisDoctorate
jazzmastersc wrote:
JurisDoctorate wrote:Most of you are out of your minds.

While some may say it was "easy", that does not necessarily mean they would score higher. With the LG, there were SO MANY hypo's that performance on the LG will be as low as it's ever been. The LR had enough curveballs to trick a bunch, as well as some formidable difficult questions.

Additionally, with all of these students taking the LSAT who have not prepared and are only taking the test of the economy - scores will be down. If the curve is lower than -12, I'll be shocked and I'll completely eat crow. However, I'd be just as shocked if the curve was lower than -14.

I am certain that it will be -15 and we are in a trend that will lead to a -20, within the next 5 years.
In five years will all Tier 1 and 2 schools then have a median LSAT of around 168?
Perhaps. I don't know the historical data, but haven't top schools' medians been going up - already?

At the end of the day, the test is getting harder (harder games - which were designed in response to test prep companies) and students are less prepared which leads to the need for a bigger curve.

Like I said, I'll eat crow but it's going to be another huge curve and I think we've seen our last single digit curves.