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LR Red Herrings
Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 11:41 am
by FlanSolo
...on rule of law. Everyone keeps mentioning a red herring answer, I don't remember the question well enough to figure out what I selected. I diagrammed the question and since I was running low on time (after skipping ahead to 26 and answering confidently) connected the two items that had no connection. I'm slowing beginning to suspect this was the red herring. Sound right?
Re: LR Red Herrings
Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 11:42 am
by Patriot1208
FlanSolo wrote:...on rule of law. Everyone keeps mentioning a red herring answer, I don't remember the question well enough to figure out what I selected. I diagrammed the question and since I was running low on time (after skipping ahead to 26 and answering confidently) connected the two items that had no connection. I'm slowing beginning to suspect this was the red herring. Sound right?
this is what I did too, but it seems a lot of people don't fully remember the question so no one has come to a consensus.
Re: LR Red Herrings
Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 11:44 am
by FlanSolo
Oh well, I guess oct 29th will tell...
Re: LR Red Herrings
Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 11:44 am
by cowgirl_bebop
FlanSolo wrote:...on rule of law. Everyone keeps mentioning a red herring answer, I don't remember the question well enough to figure out what I selected. I diagrammed the question and since I was running low on time (after skipping ahead to 26 and answering confidently) connected the two items that had no connection. I'm slowing beginning to suspect this was the red herring. Sound right?
One of the premises was totally irrelevant. It had nothing to do with the missing assumption at all, and was obviously put there to throw us off. Once you realized that, the answer was as clear as day. I diagrammed at first, but that seemed to only throw me off more.
When I first read the question, the answer jumped out at me. But when I began thinking about it more, I confused myself. In the end, after going back, the answer my gut told me was right was actually right. The extra information made it tricky, but once you ignored it it was actually one of the easiest ones on the test.
Re: LR Red Herrings
Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 11:45 am
by jr1886
The conclusion was at the beginning and the following premises did not fully support the conclusion which had two gaps in it. Once diagrammed, only one answer connect the two gaps and it was...lol
Edit: to add "fully"
Re: LR Red Herrings
Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 11:47 am
by FlanSolo
So sort of like the MBT wigs question? I forget which PT that was on, but one of the more recent ones.
Re: LR Red Herrings
Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 11:50 am
by FlanSolo
cowgirl_bebop wrote:FlanSolo wrote:...on rule of law. Everyone keeps mentioning a red herring answer, I don't remember the question well enough to figure out what I selected. I diagrammed the question and since I was running low on time (after skipping ahead to 26 and answering confidently) connected the two items that had no connection. I'm slowing beginning to suspect this was the red herring. Sound right?
One of the premises was totally irrelevant. It had nothing to do with the missing assumption at all, and was obviously put there to throw us off. Once you realized that, the answer was as clear as day. I diagrammed at first, but that seemed to only throw me off more.
When I first read the question, the answer jumped out at me. But when I began thinking about it more, I confused myself. In the end, after going back, the answer my gut told me was right was actually right. The extra information made it tricky, but once you ignored it it was actually one of the easiest ones on the test.
Cowgirl can I PM you?
Re: LR Red Herrings
Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 11:53 am
by AverageTutoring
cowgirl_bebop wrote:FlanSolo wrote:...on rule of law. Everyone keeps mentioning a red herring answer, I don't remember the question well enough to figure out what I selected. I diagrammed the question and since I was running low on time (after skipping ahead to 26 and answering confidently) connected the two items that had no connection. I'm slowing beginning to suspect this was the red herring. Sound right?
One of the premises was totally irrelevant. It had nothing to do with the missing assumption at all, and was obviously put there to throw us off. Once you realized that, the answer was as clear as day. I diagrammed at first, but that seemed to only throw me off more.
When I first read the question, the answer jumped out at me. But when I began thinking about it more, I confused myself. In the end, after going back, the answer my gut told me was right was actually right. The extra information made it tricky, but once you ignored it it was actually one of the easiest ones on the test.
You know what's funny? I got that question immediately because I was too lazy by the end of the test to read the entire stimulus...I know, how bad is that

but it actually helped tremendously because I didnt have to keep that extra crap in my head. So yes...definately half the question was there to through us off because I definately answered correctly only knowing half the stimulus
Re: LR Red Herrings
Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 11:56 am
by Ragged
FlanSolo wrote:...on rule of law. Everyone keeps mentioning a red herring answer, I don't remember the question well enough to figure out what I selected. I diagrammed the question and since I was running low on time (after skipping ahead to 26 and answering confidently) connected the two items that had no connection. I'm slowing beginning to suspect this was the red herring. Sound right?
If this is what you did, you got it right.
Re: LR Red Herrings
Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 11:57 am
by cowgirl_bebop
FlanSolo wrote:cowgirl_bebop wrote:FlanSolo wrote:...on rule of law. Everyone keeps mentioning a red herring answer, I don't remember the question well enough to figure out what I selected. I diagrammed the question and since I was running low on time (after skipping ahead to 26 and answering confidently) connected the two items that had no connection. I'm slowing beginning to suspect this was the red herring. Sound right?
One of the premises was totally irrelevant. It had nothing to do with the missing assumption at all, and was obviously put there to throw us off. Once you realized that, the answer was as clear as day. I diagrammed at first, but that seemed to only throw me off more.
When I first read the question, the answer jumped out at me. But when I began thinking about it more, I confused myself. In the end, after going back, the answer my gut told me was right was actually right. The extra information made it tricky, but once you ignored it it was actually one of the easiest ones on the test.
Cowgirl can I PM you?
sure thing
Re: LR Red Herrings
Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 11:58 am
by KylieMorrison
Was rule of law question a MBT or justify (sufficient assumption)? I cant remember...
Re: LR Red Herrings
Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 11:58 am
by jr1886
KylieMorrison wrote:Was rule of law question a MBT or justify (sufficient assumption)? I cant remember...
The latter
Re: LR Red Herrings
Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 12:00 pm
by FlanSolo
Ragged wrote:FlanSolo wrote:...on rule of law. Everyone keeps mentioning a red herring answer, I don't remember the question well enough to figure out what I selected. I diagrammed the question and since I was running low on time (after skipping ahead to 26 and answering confidently) connected the two items that had no connection. I'm slowing beginning to suspect this was the red herring. Sound right?
If this is what you did, you got it right.
Thanks, I'm hopeful. Truth be told, my memory of the test isn't clear enough to feel confident about any of these difficult questions which people are now rehashing in such a painfully oblique fashion that I'm not second guessing virtually every question.
Re: LR Red Herrings
Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 12:01 pm
by Patriot1208
FlanSolo wrote:Ragged wrote:FlanSolo wrote:...on rule of law. Everyone keeps mentioning a red herring answer, I don't remember the question well enough to figure out what I selected. I diagrammed the question and since I was running low on time (after skipping ahead to 26 and answering confidently) connected the two items that had no connection. I'm slowing beginning to suspect this was the red herring. Sound right?
If this is what you did, you got it right.
Thanks, I'm hopeful. Truth be told, my memory of the test isn't clear enough to feel confident about any of these difficult questions which people are now rehashing in such a painfully oblique fashion that I'm not second guessing virtually every question.
Ok, i'm hoping I got this right too. I can't remember but this one and the car park one are the only two i'm worried about that we have been talking about.
Re: LR Red Herrings
Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 12:10 pm
by Sandro
this is the only problem on LR I'm pretty sure I missed. I cant remember exactly but I think I picked the one dealing with tha guoud lyfe
Re: LR Red Herrings
Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 1:37 pm
by smithryan94
what was the rule of law question? few keywords to jog my memory? can't remember it for the life of me, could've been a guess question on my behalf
Re: LR Red Herrings
Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 3:03 pm
by nireca
I am a bad person and posted what I thought was the answer. Tsk Tsk on me
Re: LR Red Herrings
Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 3:24 pm
by Lasers
faintly remember this, don't remember what i chose; i think i got this one wrong.
Re: LR Red Herrings
Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 3:25 pm
by littlepixie11
nireca wrote:I am a bad person and posted what I thought was the answer. Tsk Tsk on me
um not me.
Re: LR Red Herrings
Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 8:13 pm
by littlepixie11
I am a bad person and posted what I thought was the answer. Tsk Tsk on me
Re: LR Red Herrings
Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 9:17 pm
by alphagamma
littlepixie11 wrote:I am a bad person and posted what I thought was the answer. Tsk Tsk on me
I remember this.
Re: LR Red Herrings
Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 9:33 pm
by YCrevolution
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