Can we get to the bottom of this Experimental nonsense? Forum
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Can we get to the bottom of this Experimental nonsense?
I apologize if any part of this is redundant. but I keep getting conflicting answers from a lot of the posts. Maybe this will help?
My exam:
1 - LR: Very difficult with some strange questions stems. Very different feel from most PT's. Not sure I remember any q's.
2- LR: Definitely much easier
3- RC: (real) - African American/ historical writing, animal communication, UN human rights, etc.
4- LR: Easier again
5- LG: (real) - artifacts, van +drivers, running a race, etc.
The most confusion I have seen has been figuring out which LR is experimental. People have been claiming that sections containing Kofka, alcohol drinking, soaking beans have been real. I had three LR's and did not have any of these questions. I am fairly certain on that. Someone did raise a point that it is possible that 2 different experimentals existed, and further, that even tests with the same layout had the experimental at a different time. I tend to this this is possible, and would certainly explain the difficulty in figuring this out.
I do remember these LR questions, more than likely from the last 2 sections: Antibiotics/Chef analogy, College presidents, car theft, earthworms, spotted fish, time devoted to recreation/psychologist, liberty/freedom/goodlife, etc.
I assume that the 4th LR was real, and I believe it had 25 ques. and I also believe my second LR had 26. It appears that the test ended up with a 26 and 25 LR, so if I am not incorrect by this logic (which i am hoping!) if you had the same sequence as me the first LR was experimental.
PLEASE SHARE THOUGHTS/INPUT!
My exam:
1 - LR: Very difficult with some strange questions stems. Very different feel from most PT's. Not sure I remember any q's.
2- LR: Definitely much easier
3- RC: (real) - African American/ historical writing, animal communication, UN human rights, etc.
4- LR: Easier again
5- LG: (real) - artifacts, van +drivers, running a race, etc.
The most confusion I have seen has been figuring out which LR is experimental. People have been claiming that sections containing Kofka, alcohol drinking, soaking beans have been real. I had three LR's and did not have any of these questions. I am fairly certain on that. Someone did raise a point that it is possible that 2 different experimentals existed, and further, that even tests with the same layout had the experimental at a different time. I tend to this this is possible, and would certainly explain the difficulty in figuring this out.
I do remember these LR questions, more than likely from the last 2 sections: Antibiotics/Chef analogy, College presidents, car theft, earthworms, spotted fish, time devoted to recreation/psychologist, liberty/freedom/goodlife, etc.
I assume that the 4th LR was real, and I believe it had 25 ques. and I also believe my second LR had 26. It appears that the test ended up with a 26 and 25 LR, so if I am not incorrect by this logic (which i am hoping!) if you had the same sequence as me the first LR was experimental.
PLEASE SHARE THOUGHTS/INPUT!
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Re: Can we get to the bottom of this Experimental nonsense?
My experimental section was LG.
I did not have a question about soaking beans or Kafka.
I did not have a question about soaking beans or Kafka.
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Re: Can we get to the bottom of this Experimental nonsense?
I had:
RC (real)
LR (25) easy
LR (25) super hard... every stimulus seemed really long. Lots of complex questions.
LG
LR easy
Unfortunately I don't remember where any specific questions were for LR.
RC (real)
LR (25) easy
LR (25) super hard... every stimulus seemed really long. Lots of complex questions.
LG
LR easy
Unfortunately I don't remember where any specific questions were for LR.
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Re: Can we get to the bottom of this Experimental nonsense?
I had the same as minnbills, but I don't remember which questions were in which sections. I thought the first LR was SUPER easy. I actually had time to go to the bathroom when I was done. the second and third were harder, but I still thought they were really easy. I have no idea which was experimental.
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Re: Can we get to the bottom of this Experimental nonsense?
DearCan wrote:My experimental section was LG.
I did not have a question about soaking beans or Kafka.
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Re: Can we get to the bottom of this Experimental nonsense?
I had:
LR
*LG
RC
LR
LG
LR
*LG
RC
LR
LG
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Re: Can we get to the bottom of this Experimental nonsense?
Kafka was definitely experimental. I had an experimental RC section so both of my LRs were real, and there was definitely no Kafka question on my test. I would remember that, because I like him so much
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Re: Can we get to the bottom of this Experimental nonsense?
Cowgirl, did you have a question about technicians vs. writers salaries in terms of seniority?
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Re: Can we get to the bottom of this Experimental nonsense?
I did and I only had two LR'slieg wrote:Cowgirl, did you have a question about technicians vs. writers salaries in terms of seniority?
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Re: Can we get to the bottom of this Experimental nonsense?
Yes, that one was real as welllieg wrote:Cowgirl, did you have a question about technicians vs. writers salaries in terms of seniority?
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Re: Can we get to the bottom of this Experimental nonsense?
Was the section that contained the salary question included in the "weird" one that everyone is freaking out about, or in an easier section?
PS I really appreciate the input guys, thanks so much!
PS I really appreciate the input guys, thanks so much!
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Re: Can we get to the bottom of this Experimental nonsense?
I saw the thread where they were talking about those questions, but the first post is actually from 2006. That could explain things! I remember those questions from PTs.lieg wrote: The most confusion I have seen has been figuring out which LR is experimental. People have been claiming that sections containing Kofka, alcohol drinking, soaking beans have been real. I had three LR's and did not have any of these questions. I am fairly certain on that. Someone did raise a point that it is possible that 2 different experimentals existed, and further, that even tests with the same layout had the experimental at a different time. I tend to this this is possible, and would certainly explain the difficulty in figuring this out.
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Re: Can we get to the bottom of this Experimental nonsense?
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Re: Can we get to the bottom of this Experimental nonsense?
I was thinking LR1 was experimental towards the end because it had a couple of question structures that I had not seen often. I believe one was what role something played in an analogy. I don't remember that one too often from practice. I only had 2 LRs so it was a real one.
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Re: Can we get to the bottom of this Experimental nonsense?
Great info guys, that's so funny about the one thread being a few years old.
Still can't get a handle on which LR was experimental, wish I could remember what questions were from which sections. Anyone with only 2 LR's remember one just seeming a bit odd? I know that's really vague, but honestly its the best way I can describe my first LR, I found it a bit difficult and after the first few I was just thinking, "Wow, these are just really unlike the last 6 or so PT's"
Still can't get a handle on which LR was experimental, wish I could remember what questions were from which sections. Anyone with only 2 LR's remember one just seeming a bit odd? I know that's really vague, but honestly its the best way I can describe my first LR, I found it a bit difficult and after the first few I was just thinking, "Wow, these are just really unlike the last 6 or so PT's"
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Re: Can we get to the bottom of this Experimental nonsense?
Hmm well 2 of my LR were very typical, with another being very weird. I think we may have our answer here folks.LSU Undergrad wrote:I was thinking LR1 was experimental towards the end because it had a couple of question structures that I had not seen often. I believe one was what role something played in an analogy. I don't remember that one too often from practice. I only had 2 LRs so it was a real one.
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Re: Can we get to the bottom of this Experimental nonsense?
Don't think my post was against the rules but editing just to be safe...
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Re: Can we get to the bottom of this Experimental nonsense?
I had two LG sections, and I had the salary question, so I'd imagine that it's in a real section.lieg wrote:Was the section that contained the salary question included in the "weird" one that everyone is freaking out about, or in an easier section?
PS I really appreciate the input guys, thanks so much!
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Re: Can we get to the bottom of this Experimental nonsense?
fatduck, you better edit out that question or you will get banned. But yes that was real.
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ITSBLARG, do you remember if that section you had it in was the "unusualy LR" or one that seemed fairly normal?
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Re: Can we get to the bottom of this Experimental nonsense?
i had the same layout. however, i definitely did not have two 25 LRs in sections 2 and 3 (25, 26, but not sure in which order). i felt the same way about the two sections, but in reverse order:minnbills wrote:I had:
RC (real)
LR (25) easy
LR (25) super hard... every stimulus seemed really long. Lots of complex questions.
LG
LR easy
Unfortunately I don't remember where any specific questions were for LR.
RC (real)
LR (?) very difficult, very long, complex stimuli
LR (?) felt like a normal LR, ended with university president elections, a question that appears to have been on the scored section. i think this section also contained the sandstone worm question
LG (real)
LR (real)
i've concluded that there were two RC LR LR LG LR layouts, and that for some, section 2 was exp., for others, section 3.
can anyone corroborate?
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Re: Can we get to the bottom of this Experimental nonsense?
I had the same one I think, i'm assuiming LR 1 (sec2) was experimental because it was a lottt harder....
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Re: Can we get to the bottom of this Experimental nonsense?
My experimental LR identified itself by being SUPER DUPER EASY and I loved every question and rocked my way through it and then found another LR and then another and was sad .
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Re: Can we get to the bottom of this Experimental nonsense?
actually i'm not even so sure anymore if LR1 or LR2 was easier for me. I know I finished LR2 with more time left but went back to a question or two. I hate not being able to remember much.
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Re: Can we get to the bottom of this Experimental nonsense?
jonillson wrote:i had the same layout. however, i definitely did not have two 25 LRs in sections 2 and 3 (25, 26, but not sure in which order). i felt the same way about the two sections, but in reverse order:minnbills wrote:I had:
RC (real)
LR (25) easy
LR (25) super hard... every stimulus seemed really long. Lots of complex questions.
LG
LR easy
Unfortunately I don't remember where any specific questions were for LR.
RC (real)
LR (?) very difficult, very long, complex stimuli
LR (?) felt like a normal LR, ended with university president elections, a question that appears to have been on the scored section. i think this section also contained the sandstone worm question
LG (real)
LR (real)
i've concluded that there were two RC LR LR LG LR layouts, and that for some, section 2 was exp., for others, section 3.
can anyone corroborate?
I think this is the case. unfortunately I don't remember where any questions were in particular.
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