Curve Discussion
Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2010 7:09 pm
Voice your thoughts on the curve and give reason why.
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Agreed, this test was easier than 59 and 60. I am guessing a -11, but we'll see what kind of cooky algorithm/method LSAC does to finally make that curve.Sinra wrote:I'm figuring a -10. I honestly didn't think it was too hard. RC was very easy IMO. LG were ok and LR is LR. I felt more like PT 58 than 59 or 60. No way it's a -14 monster like Dec 09. That test deserved a generous curve.
Imagine a -15.... just so they can look at TLS for shits and giggles. Kind of like when the -14 curve was first posted for December.WonkyPanda wrote:Agreed, this test was easier than 59 and 60. I am guessing a -11, but we'll see what kind of cooky algorithm/method LSAC does to finally make that curve.Sinra wrote:I'm figuring a -10. I honestly didn't think it was too hard. RC was very easy IMO. LG were ok and LR is LR. I felt more like PT 58 than 59 or 60. No way it's a -14 monster like Dec 09. That test deserved a generous curve.
I'm hoping it was! Sure felt like it. I mean leaving the test I felt really good about it. Of course, TLS tends to bring my confidence post-test down..but I can't stay away. People bringing up questions that I remember being absolutely sure about and then just by virtue of hearing about them I think "Wait, did I choose wrong??" Whatever. I didn't get dumber or become less prepared between yesterday and this morning. But going from my real reaction post-test...not a ridiculous curve. Games even were OK. A little bit tricky and time-consuming but overall not hard. And thank the gods no courses to take except for three and writing or theater. I fracking hate those.WonkyPanda wrote:Agreed, this test was easier than 59 and 60. I am guessing a -11, but we'll see what kind of cooky algorithm/method LSAC does to finally make that curve.Sinra wrote:I'm figuring a -10. I honestly didn't think it was too hard. RC was very easy IMO. LG were ok and LR is LR. I felt more like PT 58 than 59 or 60. No way it's a -14 monster like Dec 09. That test deserved a generous curve.
I wish we could look back and see what people thought the curve would be for december. Does TLS tend to overestimate or underestimate? I'd bet under. Lot's of amazing takers here can skew the apparent difficulty of the test. Normal people do exists everyone!KevinP wrote:Imagine a -15.... just so they can look at TLS for shits and giggles. Kind of like when the -14 curve was first posted for December.WonkyPanda wrote:Agreed, this test was easier than 59 and 60. I am guessing a -11, but we'll see what kind of cooky algorithm/method LSAC does to finally make that curve.Sinra wrote:I'm figuring a -10. I honestly didn't think it was too hard. RC was very easy IMO. LG were ok and LR is LR. I felt more like PT 58 than 59 or 60. No way it's a -14 monster like Dec 09. That test deserved a generous curve.
December FELT like that though. my head was fried after that test. I should have canceled.KevinP wrote:Imagine a -15.... just so they can look at TLS for shits and giggles. Kind of like when the -14 curve was first posted for December.WonkyPanda wrote:Agreed, this test was easier than 59 and 60. I am guessing a -11, but we'll see what kind of cooky algorithm/method LSAC does to finally make that curve.Sinra wrote:I'm figuring a -10. I honestly didn't think it was too hard. RC was very easy IMO. LG were ok and LR is LR. I felt more like PT 58 than 59 or 60. No way it's a -14 monster like Dec 09. That test deserved a generous curve.
June was -12+1 question removed and Dec was -14.DearCan wrote:The curves on the last two tests has been -14 and I'm honestly hoping for that. Probably won't get it but it doesn't hurt to hope.
Ah, my bad. I just saw that a raw score of 87 on both tests got you a 170.LogicGamez wrote:June was -12+1 question removed and Dec was -14.DearCan wrote:The curves on the last two tests has been -14 and I'm honestly hoping for that. Probably won't get it but it doesn't hurt to hope.
I'd give someone 10:1 odds that it's either -11 or -12.
That would be absolutely glorious.DearCan wrote:Ah, my bad. I just saw that a raw score of 87 on both tests got you a 170.LogicGamez wrote:June was -12+1 question removed and Dec was -14.DearCan wrote:The curves on the last two tests has been -14 and I'm honestly hoping for that. Probably won't get it but it doesn't hurt to hope.
I'd give someone 10:1 odds that it's either -11 or -12.
TLSers thought the curve was less generous than it really is.WonkyPanda wrote:I wish we could look back and see what people thought the curve would be for december. Does TLS tend to overestimate or underestimate? I'd bet under. Lot's of amazing takers here can skew the apparent difficulty of the test. Normal people do exists everyone!KevinP wrote:Imagine a -15.... just so they can look at TLS for shits and giggles. Kind of like when the -14 curve was first posted for December.WonkyPanda wrote:Agreed, this test was easier than 59 and 60. I am guessing a -11, but we'll see what kind of cooky algorithm/method LSAC does to finally make that curve.Sinra wrote:I'm figuring a -10. I honestly didn't think it was too hard. RC was very easy IMO. LG were ok and LR is LR. I felt more like PT 58 than 59 or 60. No way it's a -14 monster like Dec 09. That test deserved a generous curve.
Except that last test was a -12...DearCan wrote:The curves on the last two tests has been -14 and I'm honestly hoping for that. Probably won't get it but it doesn't hurt to hope.
You clearly didn't read the rest of the thread.St.Remy wrote:Except that last test was a -12...DearCan wrote:The curves on the last two tests has been -14 and I'm honestly hoping for that. Probably won't get it but it doesn't hurt to hope.
True... but from what I've read, they are usually equated in advance. A couple of years in advance since experimental sections seem to show up a couple years later from what I've read of people who took the test years back and had the same experimental section for their real one.ND'10 wrote:Isn't how hard the test is only one input into forming the curve? Unless I'm mistaken doesn't it rely in large part on the number of takers? If a large number of well, mediocre, test takers decided to take the LSAT because, say, they don't think they're going to get jobs in this still tight economy... couldn't that make an easy/average test get an average/generous curve?