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Help!!! "Start Writing Sample Early" Misconduct - How bad???

Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2010 4:42 pm
by bluebird
Just finished Oct LSAT and got a "Start Writing Sample Early" Misconduct. How bad was that???

I thought I heard the proctor said "Start" but maybe I was just daydreaming because I was so exhausted. So I got a warning for this after I finished the whole test.

How will this affect me? Should I call LSAC ASAP??? Will cancellation of score get this off record??? Anybody have similar experience and how this get resolved?? Will this hunt me forever? Can I still apply to law schools.

Need your help and input - Thanks!!

Re: Help!!! "Start Writing Sample Early" Misconduct - How bad???

Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2010 4:44 pm
by tazmolover
There are no words to describe.

Re: Help!!! "Start Writing Sample Early" Misconduct - How bad???

Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2010 4:45 pm
by ns77770
I've heard of this happening and I unfortunately think it's going to be on your record even if you cancel. You can still apply but you're going to have to write an addendum if you don't appeal or your appeal doesn't work. Also, I just realized this is probably a flame...

Re: Help!!! "Start Writing Sample Early" Misconduct - How bad???

Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2010 4:45 pm
by 3|ink
tazmolover wrote:There are no words to describe.
TITCR

Re: Help!!! "Start Writing Sample Early" Misconduct - How bad???

Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2010 4:46 pm
by WithoutMe
Calling LSAC wont do anything

Re: Help!!! "Start Writing Sample Early" Misconduct - How bad???

Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2010 4:47 pm
by tazmolover
Doesn't this mean you're pretty much fucked?

Re: Help!!! "Start Writing Sample Early" Misconduct - How bad???

Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2010 4:53 pm
by Pablo Ramirez
tazmolover wrote:There are no words to describe.

Re: Help!!! "Start Writing Sample Early" Misconduct - How bad???

Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2010 4:54 pm
by bluebird
tazmolover wrote:Doesn't this mean you're pretty much fucked?
Please!!! Why are you saying that? I am in deepest sorrow..

Re: Help!!! "Start Writing Sample Early" Misconduct - How bad???

Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2010 4:55 pm
by bluebird
ns77770 wrote:I've heard of this happening and I unfortunately think it's going to be on your record even if you cancel. You can still apply but you're going to have to write an addendum if you don't appeal or your appeal doesn't work. Also, I just realized this is probably a flame...
Thank you for your precious advice. BTW, this is NOT a flame. This really happened. Thanks again.

Re: Help!!! "Start Writing Sample Early" Misconduct - How bad???

Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2010 4:59 pm
by Pablo Ramirez
The worst part of this all is that it hangs a cloud of deep, morbid darkness over the rest of your exam. Does this mean you started other sections early, too, but just weren't caught?

This is major fuckage.

Re: Help!!! "Start Writing Sample Early" Misconduct - How bad???

Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2010 5:07 pm
by drake
damn and imagine you got a 175+ bro only to get proctor pwned.

pwn pwn pwn pwn pwn pwn pwn

Re: Help!!! "Start Writing Sample Early" Misconduct - How bad???

Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2010 5:14 pm
by bluebird
Pablo Ramirez wrote:The worst part of this all is that it hangs a cloud of deep, morbid darkness over the rest of your exam. Does this mean you started other sections early, too, but just weren't caught?

This is major fuckage.
BUT what's the point of starting writing sample early? I really thought I heard "Start" - probably I was too tired and thought the BIG game is over.

Re: Help!!! "Start Writing Sample Early" Misconduct - How bad???

Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2010 5:24 pm
by Pablo Ramirez
bluebird wrote:
Pablo Ramirez wrote:The worst part of this all is that it hangs a cloud of deep, morbid darkness over the rest of your exam. Does this mean you started other sections early, too, but just weren't caught?

This is major fuckage.
BUT what's the point of starting writing sample early? I really thought I heard "Start" - probably I was too tired and thought the BIG game is over.
Well, perhaps this doesn't apply to you, but some people are paranoid nutjobs and have an internal drive to get every edge possible over the rest of the competition even if the "edge" in question provides but a trivial advantage.

Re: Help!!! "Start Writing Sample Early" Misconduct - How bad???

Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2010 5:33 pm
by AreJay711
I mean it wouldn't affect me that much as an adcomm but you definitely want to do an addendum. I mean what is done is done and your chances wont be as bad as they would be if you don't apply at all... probably. Then again my proctors were lax as hell -- the dude in front of me blatantly bubbled in 5 answer choices after she called time -- so i am kind of curious how early you must have started to get a misconduct thing slapped on you.

Re: Help!!! "Start Writing Sample Early" Misconduct - How bad???

Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2010 5:34 pm
by homestyle28
The truth: nobody here knows, contact a school or two you're interested in, see what they say, then respond.

Re: Help!!! "Start Writing Sample Early" Misconduct - How bad???

Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2010 5:34 pm
by tazmolover
Pablo Ramirez wrote:
bluebird wrote:
Pablo Ramirez wrote:The worst part of this all is that it hangs a cloud of deep, morbid darkness over the rest of your exam. Does this mean you started other sections early, too, but just weren't caught?

This is major fuckage.
BUT what's the point of starting writing sample early? I really thought I heard "Start" - probably I was too tired and thought the BIG game is over.
Well, perhaps this doesn't apply to you, but some people are paranoid nutjobs and have an internal drive to get every edge possible over the rest of the competition even if the "edge" in question provides but a trivial advantage.
Provides no advantage.

I wish they would have let me out 10 minutes into the writing prompt. Shit was so useless.

Re: Help!!! "Start Writing Sample Early" Misconduct - How bad???

Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2010 6:02 pm
by bluebird
tazmolover wrote:
Pablo Ramirez wrote:
bluebird wrote:
Pablo Ramirez wrote:The worst part of this all is that it hangs a cloud of deep, morbid darkness over the rest of your exam. Does this mean you started other sections early, too, but just weren't caught?

This is major fuckage.
BUT what's the point of starting writing sample early? I really thought I heard "Start" - probably I was too tired and thought the BIG game is over.
Well, perhaps this doesn't apply to you, but some people are paranoid nutjobs and have an internal drive to get every edge possible over the rest of the competition even if the "edge" in question provides but a trivial advantage.
Provides no advantage.

I wish they would have let me out 10 minutes into the writing prompt. Shit was so useless.

- Exactly. I never think LSAT writing is important and I finished 15 min earlier by babbling sth to fill the paper. I just accidentally opened the TOPIC book when the proctor was about to start the clock -- just reading some lengthy instructions and something about "TIMER" later I realized she might be talking about she needs to recheck the timer.

Re: Help!!! "Start Writing Sample Early" Misconduct - How bad???

Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2010 6:04 pm
by Lasers
wow...that's the worst way to get some kind of warning.

everyone in my room half-assed the writing section, including me. everyone was looking at each other with like 5 minutes left.

Re: Help!!! "Start Writing Sample Early" Misconduct - How bad???

Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2010 6:08 pm
by s254w
Hey, just add an addendum to your application. Just mention that you thought you misheard the instructions, and started early. Don't cancel, since you worked hard and the misconduct stays on your record. Just be honest, it will work out :)

Re: Help!!! "Start Writing Sample Early" Misconduct - How bad???

Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2010 6:38 pm
by TCScrutinizer
This probably isn't that big of a deal, honestly. I'd contact some schools and see what they think about it... but really, anything having to do with the writing sample is meaningless. As long as you don't completely blow it off you've done your job.

Re: Help!!! "Start Writing Sample Early" Misconduct - How bad???

Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2010 6:42 pm
by northwood
if you got a misconduct, do they give you the piece of paper before you leave????

Re: Help!!! "Start Writing Sample Early" Misconduct - How bad???

Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2010 6:49 pm
by bluebird
northwood wrote:if you got a misconduct, do they give you the piece of paper before you leave????
Yeah, I get a piece of notice with Violation type VIII Other - "Started Writing Sample Early" (handwritten). And First Verbal/Written Notice Issued to test taker (gold copy), Violation Type VIII, Section 6, Time remaining 35 minutes.

I opened the topic book just before I was supposed to. Sigh.. And I really didn't mean to gain any advantage. LSAT writing is so stupid.

Re: Help!!! "Start Writing Sample Early" Misconduct - How bad???

Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2010 6:53 pm
by esj07
Yeah I got a misconduct because i had a red folder with my admission ticket inside it to keep it together and the lady gave me a "possession of a nonelectronic prohibited item" even when i asked her if I could bring it in before I checked in with her and gave her the ticket. Then she said to set it down in the front of the room and told me lsac requires her to report it. Needless to say, I'm agitated but she called up the "supervisor" and she claimed they said it is "highly unlikely they do anything." Still causes unnecessary stress on my part though. Also, a guy who rode his motorcycle to the test brought his helmet in and she wrote him up for the same exact thing. Did this happen to anybody and what ended up happening as a result? And also, are all write ups automatically displayed on your record or are some dismissed?

Re: Help!!! "Start Writing Sample Early" Misconduct - How bad???

Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2010 6:55 pm
by LogicGamez
No you're not screwed. Law schools know that most people finish their writing section in like 20 minutes and many law schools don't even read it.

Just write an addendum explaining exactly what happened.

Re: Help!!! "Start Writing Sample Early" Misconduct - How bad???

Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2010 7:03 pm
by bluebird
esj07 wrote:Yeah I got a misconduct because i had a red folder with my admission ticket inside it to keep it together and the lady gave me a "possession of a nonelectronic prohibited item" even when i asked her if I could bring it in before I checked in with her and gave her the ticket. Then she said to set it down in the front of the room and told me lsac requires her to report it. Needless to say, I'm agitated but she called up the "supervisor" and she claimed they said it is "highly unlikely they do anything." Still causes unnecessary stress on my part though. Also, a guy who rode his motorcycle to the test brought his helmet in and she wrote him up for the same exact thing. Did this happen to anybody and what ended up happening as a result? And also, are all write ups automatically displayed on your record or are some dismissed?
Are you going to call LSAC or just wait? The lady just said "Sorry, sorry" and she just asked me to contact LSAC for any questions.