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I was going to take this PT and attempt the infamous Snakes and Lizards game, but I saw the curve is a -16! A -10 nets you a 175!!! For those of you that took PT 27, is the curve really justified? I don't want to get a low raw score that correlates to a high lsat score if it's going to deceptively get my hopes up, haha.

Most of the difficulty seems to come out of the Snakes/Buffs LG and the first LR. I took the LG section timed and went -0 in the 3 games I finished (decided the Buff game was easier to tackle for me), but only had 5 minutes for snakes and enough concentration to answer the first two questions before time expired.

I tanked on the first LR (went -7). The second LR was less difficult (-3), while the RC didn't seem so bad (-3), timed. Overall raw was 88, but that is severally inflated because while I answered the snakes game Q's all correct, I was outside the time box. I believe I also carried over on both LR's. Only RC was where I stayed under the 35.

Took this about two weeks ago.

Damn I guess LG were killers on some of the older games.

I just took this test, and I don't know if the -16 curve is justified. I normally am -0 or -1 on LG, but got -5 on LG for this test (snakes and buffs sucked my time and I didn't get to the fourth game at all). Despite the big difference in my games performance, I only got 1 wrong on the entire rest of the test, which was in RC. I normally range from -3 to -8 total on LR and -2 to -4 on RC, so this test was quite abnormal for me. The games were brutal, but the rest of the sections definitely felt a little easier while I was taking them.

F*ck the curve!

Just do what you gotta do.

Ciao pussycat.

Movie buffs wasn't even that difficult, especially untimed the second time around, it was all about figuring out the distribution...snakes was a fucking pain in the ass that I didn't even attempt. The rest of the games were fairly manageable I thought although I didn't do so hot on this PT.

the snakes gets a lot easier when you realize theres only two possible distributions for the snakes/lizards in cages

if i remember correctly it has to be either

S L
SSSLL

or

SSL
SSLL with one empty

Of course there is proximity involved and those distributions dont represent the proximity

I think that is accurate if I remember correctly. Oh at least one lizard and two snakes were always female. Something like that.

There is one other combo where you can have SS SS L L L. I think the last question on the game specifically deals with this scenario.

Seeing the distributions definitely helps...I just got caught up in all the different variables (habitats 1-5, m/f, s/l) at first, which brought my speed down. This is definitely good practice for using distribution to unlock games.

i don't know about a -16 curve, but that test was effing hard. although..wasn't the june test like a -14?

The June test was -12, but the December 09 test was -14. However, at least for June, the 170-180 scale was much more favorable toward the bottom of the range than the top, while the PT 27 scale was pretty generous throughout, with a -4 = 180 and -6 = 179.

Bumping this from 2 weeks old but I just took the thing.

First of all what a brutal LG section. Honestly snakes and lizards wasn't that bad (for me) but the buffs one sucked up 13 minutes. I spent 8 minutes on the first, 10 on snakes, 14 on buffs, leaving 3 minutes for the last one, which fortunately was easy, but realistically I wouldn't be able to rambo through it on test day conditions.

Other than that, I did well on the rest of the test, ended up with -8 overall for a 177, by far my best score yet but that curve was extremely generous. I'm not banking on that much help on the real thing, but I can't fathom a LG section that hard on the real deal either.