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logic question

Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 9:39 pm
by winnatech
Hi,

If there is a condition that is "All A are B", does that also mean that "some B are A" as well? Thanks.

Re: logic question

Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 9:45 pm
by stargazin
Yes. It's that "inference ladder" thing. A --> B also means A <--some--> B.

Re: logic question

Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 9:48 pm
by Anaconda
Correct.

Ex)

All MLB all-stars are baseball players.

You can infer that some baseball players are all-stars, but you can't imply that ALL baseball players are all-stars.

Re: logic question

Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 9:49 pm
by gdane
You must remember that when you have an If A then B statement, SOME B are A, but not ALL B are A.

If youre confused about conditional reasoning go over that section in the logical reasoning bible and there's a conditional reasoning guide here on TLS that is also helpful.

Good luck!

Re: logic question

Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 9:51 pm
by tamlyric
Strictly speaking, no. But, assuming that at least one thing is A, then yes. Since LSAC probably doesn't worry about the situation in which nothing is A, I think it's a pretty safe bet that "All As are Bs" entails "Some B is A." So, for example, if all politicians are liars, then at least one liar is a politician--i.e., assuming that there is at least one politician.

Re: logic question

Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 10:22 pm
by dub
tamlyric wrote:Strictly speaking, no. But, assuming that at least one thing is A, then yes. Since LSAC probably doesn't worry about the situation in which nothing is A, I think it's a pretty safe bet that "All As are Bs" entails "Some B is A." So, for example, if all politicians are liars, then at least one liar is a politician--i.e., assuming that there is at least one politician.
Right. In LSAT logic, if a word for something exists, that something exists.

Re: logic question

Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 10:37 pm
by lawgod
There could be no A.

My system: Forget the rules and just think about what makes sense.
(easy for me to say, I'll never take another LSAT)

Re: logic question

Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 3:00 pm
by arean.ryan
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Re: logic question

Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 3:15 pm
by 094320
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Re: logic question

Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 3:20 pm
by op-ti
gdane5 wrote:You must remember that when you have an If A then B statement, SOME B are A, but not ALL B are A.

If youre confused about conditional reasoning go over that section in the logical reasoning bible and there's a conditional reasoning guide here on TLS that is also helpful.
Good luck!

Really?

Does anyone have a link to this?

Re: logic question

Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 4:01 pm
by Dany
op-ti wrote:
gdane5 wrote:You must remember that when you have an If A then B statement, SOME B are A, but not ALL B are A.

If youre confused about conditional reasoning go over that section in the logical reasoning bible and there's a conditional reasoning guide here on TLS that is also helpful.
Good luck!

Really?

Does anyone have a link to this?
http://www.top-law-schools.com/conditio ... oning.html

-I don't know if that was the one being referenced, but it's the only one I know of on here.

Re: logic question

Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 4:02 pm
by op-ti
eskimo wrote:
op-ti wrote:
gdane5 wrote:You must remember that when you have an If A then B statement, SOME B are A, but not ALL B are A.

If youre confused about conditional reasoning go over that section in the logical reasoning bible and there's a conditional reasoning guide here on TLS that is also helpful.
Good luck!

Really?

Does anyone have a link to this?
http://www.top-law-schools.com/conditio ... oning.html

-I don't know if that was the one being referenced, but it's the only one I know of on here.
THANK YOU eskimo!