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Diagram a sentence

Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 9:29 pm
by icobes
Can you please diagram this for me?

"You will be happy only if you are noticed"

I diagrammed it as Happy --> Noticed but the solutions to the question diagrammed it as Noticed --> Happiness so I am uncertain now.

Thanks for the help.

Re: Diagram a sentence

Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 9:37 pm
by LSAT Blog
You are correct. The solutions are wrong.

What solutions are you using?

I'm happy only if I'm noticed. = My happiness requires being noticed.

Happy -> Noticed

"Only if" is a necessary condition indicator.

Re: Diagram a sentence

Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 9:49 pm
by Tanicius
icobes wrote:Can you please diagram this for me?

"You will be happy only if you are noticed"

I diagrammed it as Happy --> Noticed but the solutions to the question diagrammed it as Noticed --> Happiness so I am uncertain now.

Thanks for the help.
Sentence diagramming is fun!

S1: NP1 + verb be + ADJ
NP1: "you"
be verb: "will be"
ADJ: "happy"

conjunction: "only if"

S2, passive: NP1 + vt + NP2
NP1: "someone" (unwritten)
verb trans: "notice"
NP2: "you"

dotted line connects be verb to verb trans

Re: Diagram a sentence

Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 9:57 pm
by dakatz
icobes wrote:Can you please diagram this for me?

"You will be happy only if you are noticed"

I diagrammed it as Happy --> Noticed but the solutions to the question diagrammed it as Noticed --> Happiness so I am uncertain now.

Thanks for the help.
You most certainly have it right. I'm not sure what "solutions" you are looking at, but it is definitely incorrect.

Re: Diagram a sentence

Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 10:07 pm
by icobes
In the McGraw Hill 2010 book, it diagrammed it incorrectly. I guess I shouldn't be surprised given how terrible the book is in general.

Re: Diagram a sentence

Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 10:12 pm
by LSAT Blog
Found it - thanks, Google (and icobes).

It's a McGraw-Hill / Curvebreakers fail.

The question and its "explanation"

Aside from that, there's the issue that the book characterizes this as a Strengthen question when the question stem is one of a Necessary Assumption question. I haven't looked at the question itself, though. There may be other problems with it.

Re: Diagram a sentence

Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 10:16 pm
by DrackedaryMaster
icobes wrote:In the McGraw Hill 2010 book, it diagrammed it incorrectly. I guess I shouldn't be surprised given how terrible the book is in general.
That book is absolutely horrible! Many years ago I made the mistake of getting the M/H book on Games (before I had ever heard of Powerscore) thinking the books sold by the prep companies in the bookstore would probably be the same approach.....wrong!

If I remember, this book has like 3 or 4 typos in the diagramming in the first 10 pages alone. It's been a long time since I've looked at that book (2006?), but I remember the game about lights on/off having several typo errors for diagramming which was very frustrating because I didn't have any foothold on games at the time.

Fortunately, when I went online to see if this book had a bad reputation, it sure enough did, and that's where I found out about the Powerscore LGB. Of course if you get it, be sure to actually read through and practice with it (something I didn't) and I paid the high price.