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This is a totally random and irrelevant question spawned by some afternoon procrastination, but after looking through a lot of threads where people list their scores, it seems awfully interesting that so many people score 177's, 178's, 179's and 180's. I mean if less than 50 people score a 180 on any given test, it seems like a big chunk of those people are members of TLS, which is kind of hard to believe.

How many of the top scorers do you think are lying about their scores?

I know you want an answer, but...who cares? I only care how I'm scoring. At the end of the day, it's me who's applying to law school.

Anaconda wrote:

How many of the top scorers do you think are lying about their scores?

Search the forums for the thread about honesty in reporting LSAT scores, I feel like either LSN or TLS tried to do some sort of an audit about it a few years back. I forget what the bottom line was but I think most TLSers are honest, but do consider some people operate pure flame accounts with ridiculous stats.

The large number of students who attend the very top schools (YHS CCN) would suggest that the denizens of TLS do score highly on the LSAT.

Check out this thread: http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... =6&t=96641
It has a nice estimation of how many people earn each score. And while there are certainty enough top scores to make TLS believable I'm sure there are some people who bullshit. This is after all the internet.

you will always find people who lie on their LSAT. I would say a lot of it is obviously motivated by peer pressure but a lot probably has to do with those people who got perfect grades in college and wound up with a 147 don't want it to detract from their image of themselves being academically superior. And besides someone logging into your LSAC account... who is going to know really?

I can't imagine too many are lying. I'm sure that many (if not most) of the people who score very well have stumbled upon TLS in the course of their test preparation.

Wouldn't it be better to lie down so your cycle seems more impressive? Underperforming your numbers is way more embarrassing than underperforming your PTs.

personally, i believe TLS (emphasis on the T) has a biased sample of the LSAT-taking population

ppl who score higher tend to care more/look up resources/would actually go to a law school forum lol

also, a lot of ppl put "functionally equivalent" numbers up on TLS, which pretty much means if they have a 3.8 GPA and 178 LSAT, they may fudge it and say they have a 179 and 3.7, etc.

that could skew things a bit too at the very tippy-top, depending on how the fudging works out

DoubleChecks wrote:personally, i believe TLS (emphasis on the T) has a biased sample of the LSAT-taking population

ppl who score higher tend to care more/look up resources/would actually go to a law school forum lol

also, a lot of ppl put "functionally equivalent" numbers up on TLS, which pretty much means if they have a 3.8 GPA and 178 LSAT, they may fudge it and say they have a 179 and 3.7, etc.

that could skew things a bit too at the very tippy-top, depending on how the fudging works out

Based on the fact that people read crap like McGraw Hill and Dummies and use Kaplan/PR LG strategies since they've never heard of the LGB might give a lot of credibility to that theory.

If anything, I find it more motivating to achieve a high score when there are so many people here that do.

coastal112 wrote:If anything, I find it more motivating to achieve a high score when there's so many people here that do.

Agreed.

I'm going to go with the "person who's hanging out on an LSAT board is more likely to have a crazy high score" thing. Also if you get a high score you're gonna broadcast it.

Anaconda wrote:Based on the fact that people read crap like McGraw Hill and Dummies and use Kaplan/PR LG strategies since they've never heard of the LGB might give a lot of credibility to that theory.

Most people don't study very hard either. They take a couple of practice tests and decide to give it a whirl. Some of the test takers in this group are smart and still score in the 160's. This is good but they don't come anywhere near their full potential. It wasn't until I stumbled upon TLS that my idea of success on the LSAT became 170+ and every law school besides the T14 became TTT. TLS is like the Asian parents I never had.

KibblesAndVick wrote:TLS is like the Asian parents I never had.

+1.

KibblesAndVick wrote:

Anaconda wrote:Based on the fact that people read crap like McGraw Hill and Dummies and use Kaplan/PR LG strategies since they've never heard of the LGB might give a lot of credibility to that theory.

Most people don't study very hard either. They take a couple of practice tests and decide to give it a whirl. Some of the test takers in this group are smart and still score in the 160's. This is good but they don't come anywhere near their full potential. It wasn't until I stumbled upon TLS that my idea of success on the LSAT became 170+ and every law school besides the T14 became TTT. TLS is like the Asian parents I never had.

Agreed on this too. I thought my ceiling would be 167ish until I came to TLS, now I'm shooting for 180.

You got me. I got a 154, but I lied and said I was albino and was black.

Most people don't study very hard either. They take a couple of practice tests and decide to give it a whirl.

This is how I got my 176. Retake?

But seriously that link that was posted of all the people with 170+ scores is going to include a lot of people like me who have <3.0 GPAs and didn't cure cancer and who aren't really competing for the schools listed next to those scores.

This thread should include a poll asking whether or not you lie when you post your LSAT score online. It could be like "A. Total bullshit B. Slightly fudged to be more anonymous C. The real deal" or something like that.

KibblesAndVick wrote:This thread should include a poll asking whether or not you lie when you post your LSAT score online. It could be like "A. Total bullshit B. Slightly fudged to be more anonymous C. The real deal" or something like that.

Fixed.

This seriously the most poorly constructed poll I've seen. It's a good idea, though.

GettingReady2010 wrote:This seriously the most poorly constructed poll I've seen. It's a good idea, though.

lol +1, the poll is a good idea -- the way you phrased it will lead to ppl not taking it seriously/choosing ridiculous options, making it effectively worthless haha

DoubleChecks wrote:

GettingReady2010 wrote:This seriously the most poorly constructed poll I've seen. It's a good idea, though.

lol +1, the poll is a good idea -- the way you phrased it will lead to ppl not taking it seriously/choosing ridiculous options, making it effectively worthless haha

Not like anyone would be honest anyways.

Anaconda wrote:

DoubleChecks wrote:

GettingReady2010 wrote:This seriously the most poorly constructed poll I've seen. It's a good idea, though.

lol +1, the poll is a good idea -- the way you phrased it will lead to ppl not taking it seriously/choosing ridiculous options, making it effectively worthless haha

Not like anyone would be honest anyways.

I think they would be. I think about 90% of TLS is pretty truthful, maybe some small lies to maintain anonymity, but for the most part they're truthful.

I would say the TLSers who are heavy posters are all more or less honest, because they don't care. LSAT score is however, whether or not anyone will actually admit it, an online dick measuring contest. There is incentive for posters to up their scores because they want to be accepted as "just another 171", rather than an intellectually inferior whatever-their-score-is. I'd say probably half of the posters on TLS lie at least 1-2 points to make themselves feel better.

edit: I'm not saying someone with a lower score is intellectually inferior, just that they're afraid of being perceived that way.

MOAR editing: this poll wording sucks.

Polls are anonymous, so there's really not even the "cyber prestige" incentive that some of the more pathetic TLSers gain from lying about their score.

delBarco wrote:
MOAR editing: this poll wording sucks.

Fixed: The fudging your score by a few points seemed like it was the "honest" answer. Changed the choices to ones w/ more serious wording.