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Misconduct

Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 6:17 am
by Marino13
I accidentally bubbled in after time was called on one section of the June LSAT. I recently received a notice of a misconduct in my e-mail. Has anyone else gotten the same thing?

Re: Misconduct

Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 7:13 am
by miamiman
Marino13 wrote:I accidentally bubbled in after time was called on one section of the June LSAT. I recently received a notice of a misconduct in my e-mail. Has anyone else gotten the same thing?
Other people have received misconducts for bubbling after time. You aren't alone.

My advice is to take ownership -- and quickly -- for it even if it was (somehow?) accidental. The reason? Because as much as admissions committees may loathe cheaters/plagiarists, they have absolutely no pity for excuses from them. You're going to need to explain the event in a succinct and mature way, and, even still, you may have to sit out a cycle. Timing on these matters can be crucial.

I'm sorry if I'm the first person to inform you of this; it's rough. Best of luck to you.

Re: Misconduct

Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 11:10 pm
by 3|ink
Marino13 wrote:I accidentally bubbled in after time was called on one section of the June LSAT. I recently received a notice of a misconduct in my e-mail. Has anyone else gotten the same thing?
How do you do this accidentially?

Re: Misconduct

Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2010 12:20 am
by pu_golf88
I know someone that claims to have accidentally bubbled a few questions into section 2 while working on section 3. The answers being placed in 2 were his answers from 3. He said he could it after one bubble, but was worried about getting kicked out.

Re: Misconduct

Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2010 12:41 am
by 3|ink
pu_golf88 wrote:I know someone that claims to have accidentally bubbled a few questions into section 2 while working on section 3. The answers being placed in 2 were his answers from 3. He said he could it after one bubble, but was worried about getting kicked out.
I can see that happening, but I can't see somebody accidentially bubbling in immediately after time is called.

Re: Misconduct

Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2010 1:32 am
by mst
Just to repeat one of the guys above me, this is for-serious business. You're chances at getting accepted into a good law school this year have been significantly decreased. You might have a shot in the future (heck, maybe even this year), but realistically law school admission committees have way too many qualified applicants to have to resort to picking applicants who were caught cheating. And yes, cheating is what you were doing, regardless of what you claim your intent to be.

Re: Misconduct

Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2010 1:45 am
by FuManChusco
search came up with this thread. http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... =6&t=98409 might help you a little.

Re: Misconduct

Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2010 1:46 am
by eandy
3|ink wrote:
Marino13 wrote:I accidentally bubbled in after time was called on one section of the June LSAT. I recently received a notice of a misconduct in my e-mail. Has anyone else gotten the same thing?
How do you do this accidentially?

Re: Misconduct

Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 3:02 pm
by honestabe84
It's kind of unusual that they decided to wait and contact you by email. Did they even say anything to you at your test center?

Re: Misconduct

Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 3:05 pm
by eandy
honestabe84 wrote:It's kind of unusual that they decided to wait and contact you by email. Did they even say anything to you at your test center?
They don't have to tell you at the test center. Plenty of people find out via email.

Re: Misconduct

Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 3:18 pm
by matt6850
I think you will be fine.

Re: Misconduct

Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 3:24 pm
by thinkbig
pu_golf88 wrote:I know someone that claims to have accidentally bubbled a few questions into section 2 while working on section 3. The answers being placed in 2 were his answers from 3. He said he could it after one bubble, but was worried about getting kicked out.
This is exactly why you can cancel your score.

Re: Misconduct

Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 3:26 pm
by 1991
mst wrote:Just to repeat one of the guys above me, this is for-serious business. You're chances at getting accepted into a good law school this year have been significantly decreased. You might have a shot in the future (heck, maybe even this year), but realistically law school admission committees have way too many qualified applicants to have to resort to picking applicants who were caught cheating. And yes, cheating is what you were doing, regardless of what you claim your intent to be.
This is how I think about it too. Between a 171 that got a misconduct notice and a 170 that didn't get one, I think they'd prefer the latter.

Re: Misconduct

Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 10:32 pm
by BumpRnB
Marino13 wrote:I accidentally bubbled in after time was called on one section of the June LSAT. I recently received a notice of a misconduct in my e-mail. Has anyone else gotten the same thing?
How do you get a misconduct penalty? Is it only for filling in after time or if you go back to finish answers for section 1 while in section 2?

And your proctor didn't tell you on the test day that he or she saw you putting in answers after the time? Like you did not know of this until now?

Harsh rule, but I guess it does the job of making sure people stay within the time rules.

Re: Misconduct

Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 1:14 am
by eandy
BumpRnB wrote:
Marino13 wrote:I accidentally bubbled in after time was called on one section of the June LSAT. I recently received a notice of a misconduct in my e-mail. Has anyone else gotten the same thing?
How do you get a misconduct penalty? Is it only for filling in after time or if you go back to finish answers for section 1 while in section 2?

And your proctor didn't tell you on the test day that he or she saw you putting in answers after the time? Like you did not know of this until now?

Harsh rule, but I guess it does the job of making sure people stay within the time rules.
You can get a misconduct for anything that is against the rules. A while back, someone on TLS got one for drinking water during a section.

Re: Misconduct

Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 3:33 am
by BigA
So you still get a score, but basically get a big asterisk by your score in the form of a misconduct? I find it surprising they don't let you know when the incident occurs.
miamiman wrote: My advice is to take ownership -- and quickly -- for it even if it was (somehow?) accidental. The reason? Because as much as admissions committees may loathe cheaters/plagiarists, they have absolutely no pity for excuses from them. You're going to need to explain the event in a succinct and mature way, and, even still, you may have to sit out a cycle. Timing on these matters can be crucial.
I don't quite understand this post. Who is he supposed to explain this to? I assume he hasn't applied to any schools yet.

Re: Misconduct

Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 8:32 am
by Sparkz1920
So if im coughing, i guess i should keep on coughing because i cant take a sip of my water for fear that ill get a misconduct letter :roll:

How do you let someone get that close to you to notice whether you are bubbling in another section anyway

Re: Misconduct

Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 9:36 am
by dubsky
The individual written up for a misconduct usually gets a copy of the misconduct report that the proctor files with LSAC. They tell you to hang around and give it to you at the end of the test. I believe that the incidence of "surprise" misconduct proceedings after the test have concluded is extremely low and entirely due to irresponsible proctors.

Re: Misconduct

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2016 11:42 am
by Ips52
Marino13 wrote:I accidentally bubbled in after time was called on one section of the June LSAT. I recently received a notice of a misconduct in my e-mail. Has anyone else gotten the same thing?
How soon after the test did you receive this email?

Re: Misconduct

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2016 11:44 am
by RCSOB657
Ips52 wrote:
Marino13 wrote:I accidentally bubbled in after time was called on one section of the June LSAT. I recently received a notice of a misconduct in my e-mail. Has anyone else gotten the same thing?
How soon after the test did you receive this email?
6 years.

Re: Misconduct

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2016 12:16 pm
by RamTitan
This thread is making me paranoid as hell haha