Anyone Break 170 Yet?
Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 3:39 pm
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Grats! Are you available for free tutoring? In Texas?tomwatts wrote:I appear to have scored a 180.
If you don't mind, may I ask why you retook a 176? (I'm debating retaking 177)tomwatts wrote:I appear to have scored a 180.
LG choke here too.s0ph1e2007 wrote: me=choke on lg
CMDantes wrote:Grats! Are you available for free tutoring? In Texas?tomwatts wrote:I appear to have scored a 180.
What's your score? The curve must be tight assuming you performed well on all the other questions.whitman wrote:Yeah, I had been hitting -0 on the last 9 or 10 PTs and then left 4 blank on the real deal. I'm vaguely toying with the idea of taking June to try to get those 4 points and go for upper 170s, but it is a huge relief to have it done.
Wow! Remember the days people were ridiculed for thinking about retaking a mere 175? What do you hope to gain from >177, given its already above or level with any single school's 75%?ConsideringLawSchool wrote:If you don't mind, may I ask why you retook a 176? (I'm debating retaking 177)tomwatts wrote:I appear to have scored a 180.
Looks like you missed a bit more, though, I still doubt the curve was very forgiving. Prolly somewhere around -9.whitman wrote:172 with 4 blank on logic games. I felt very very good about the other sections, but I generally miss 1 or 2 on logical reasoning and reading comp - those duh! kind of questions.
Heh. I do online tutoring, but it isn't free.CMDantes wrote:Grats! Are you available for free tutoring? In Texas?
Why on Earth would you retake a 177? If I know my stats correctly, the highest 75th percentile out there is a 177 (for Yale), so what good would it do you to retake? My reason is below.ConsideringLawSchool wrote:If you don't mind, may I ask why you retook a 176? (I'm debating retaking 177)
Yeah. I was part of our (The Princeton Review's) Test Assessment Program. We TAP most major standardized tests every time they're offered to make sure that what we teach is still relevant and that nothing weird happens on test day. The most important thing we watch for on the LSAT is clues for the experimental section, because our students always want to know that right afterwards. So I got paid to retake a 176, and I figured I might as well make it count.skip james wrote:he's an lsat teacher. there is really no good reason to retake a 176+ except for that, in my opinion.
As I said on test day, this felt a lot like PTs 57-59, especially in the games. The preponderance of In/Out games, the "switch a rule for an equivalent rule" question, the types of games and deductions and so forth were all very reminiscent of the other tests in the past year. The rest of the test felt the same way. Now, PT 57 was hard. That was a jolt, compared to previous tests; I suspect that it was the beginning of the new trend in game types and such. Anyone who didn't work PTs 57-59 carefully and go over them carefully would've felt that jolt in February, and that's probably a big part of the reason that people have been saying that February seemed awful. If you only prepped off of PTs 1-56, you might have found February to be awful. But people who say that February was much harder than 57 or 58 are nuts.TheLuckyOne wrote:Tom, TLSers appear to be bitching about it, do you think it was considerably harder/trickier etc comparing to the previous administrations? Does it look like LSAC further modifies it? Any noticable differences?
Thanks.
Which game? Which ones are worse?tomwatts wrote: I do get, in hindsight, how presenting the juicers, mixers, and the rest could have thrown people off. I had a huge advantage because I've taught the similar (and worse) game in PT 38 so many times that this game didn't surprise me in the slightest.
I had experimental games (and was pretty sure it was experimental at the time — didn't fit the recent trends), and the distribution of types was different. No In/Out game. Had a "swap this rule for an equivalent rule" question. Looked like something more out of the 54-56 era than the 57-59 era. But nothing dramatically shocking (well, except that the fourth game was pretty awful).TheLuckyOne wrote:So what you're saying is that you have not noticed implementation of any new trends, right? Not even in the experimental section, right?
Oh, er, the third or fourth (I forget which) game in PT 38. Involved Nexus, Tailwind, flute, so forth. That game was somewhat like the hardest game on the February test, but PT 38's incarnation was worse.TheLuckyOne wrote:Which game? Which ones are worse?tomwatts wrote: I do get, in hindsight, how presenting the juicers, mixers, and the rest could have thrown people off. I had a huge advantage because I've taught the similar (and worse) game in PT 38 so many times that this game didn't surprise me in the slightest.
tomwatts wrote:I had experimental games (and was pretty sure it was experimental at the time — didn't fit the recent trends), and the distribution of types was different. No In/Out game. Had a "swap this rule for an equivalent rule" question. Looked like something more out of the 54-56 era than the 57-59 era. But nothing dramatically shocking (well, except that the fourth game was pretty awful).TheLuckyOne wrote:So what you're saying is that you have not noticed implementation of any new trends, right? Not even in the experimental section, right?
So no, no new trends yet. That's not to say that there won't be something different in June, just that it hasn't already happened.
Oh, er, the third or fourth (I forget which) game in PT 38. Involved Nexus, Tailwind, flute, so forth. That game was somewhat like the hardest game on the February test, but PT 38's incarnation was worse.TheLuckyOne wrote:Which game? Which ones are worse?tomwatts wrote: I do get, in hindsight, how presenting the juicers, mixers, and the rest could have thrown people off. I had a huge advantage because I've taught the similar (and worse) game in PT 38 so many times that this game didn't surprise me in the slightest.