Re: Let's hear some feedback on the REAL RC that counted.
Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 11:02 pm
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Camron wrote:I am hoping it was the first one, as I did horrible on this one. But in terms of what I was prepping with, this one does seem like the real deal.
I had to skim the last one (Nigerian thing), and of course all the wording threw me off in it (i.e. specific tribe names, etc.).
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Some girl got caught cheating at my LSAT in this RC section and it just threw me off. She started crying and I just wanted to stop reading this boring passage and see what was going on.
What did she do? Was she doing the RC when she should have been doing another section, or was she looking at somebody else's answers or what?Camron wrote:I am hoping it was the first one, as I did horrible on this one. But in terms of what I was prepping with, this one does seem like the real deal.
I had to skim the last one (Nigerian thing), and of course all the wording threw me off in it (i.e. specific tribe names, etc.).
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Some girl got caught cheating at my LSAT in this RC section and it just threw me off. She started crying and I just wanted to stop reading this boring passage and see what was going on.
I agree with this. I had RC as my first section and it was so ridiculously easy that I knew it had to be experimental. And yes, I got the real RC as section 4, and while not as easy as the first, thought it was pretty straightforward. BUT, I also thought the passages were pretty interesting, especially in comparison to other recent tests.dynomite wrote:RC on this test was definitely easier than it has been of late. (Both the experimental and real ones felt easier, in part because I found the passages enjoyable to read)
I agree. I wouldn't say that the passages were extremely entertaining, but the first 3 were fairly clear and not overloaded with details. When I finished them I knew exactly what the main point of the passages were. Obviously I could have missed a lot and not know it, but the questions seemed to be fairly basic. If you understood the passage then it was very easy to eliminate answer choices. I was running out of time on the hieroglyphics passage so it was nice that the answers seemed to be pulled right out of the text, you didn't really have to infer anything. The Wharton passage seemed to rely almost completely on a basic understanding of her views.evergirl23 wrote:I agree with this. I had RC as my first section and it was so ridiculously easy that I knew it had to be experimental. And yes, I got the real RC as section 4, and while not as easy as the first, thought it was pretty straightforward. BUT, I also thought the passages were pretty interesting, especially in comparison to other recent tests.dynomite wrote:RC on this test was definitely easier than it has been of late. (Both the experimental and real ones felt easier, in part because I found the passages enjoyable to read)
And +1 on cheating details.
bakemono wrote:i actually felt that it was something of a shift back to the more "simple" answer choices of the pre-PT 50 LSAT's. It was during the 50's that the answer choices became more difficult; it was more difficult to differentiate between the correctness of one or the other. The RC in this test while not easy was relatively straightforward, or so i thought... well... maybe except the African languages passage.
Actually only two of them were ones I remembered. Also, the questions were different I believe. And of course, the experimental sections we are given ARE recycled for future tests, and that goes for LG and LRs as well! So, this really isn't anything to be surprised about.IHaveDietMoxie wrote:Wow, I can't believe they recycled these passages. I had all of these topics in december (and thought they were quite a bit easier than the real ones btw). If I had gotten these in Feb I would have nailed it. Seems incredibly unfair that they did this....
except for the fact that many would get screwed because of it. I didn't write in Dec, why should should the curve be -8 to -9 for me?gltm wrote:Actually only two of them were ones I remembered. Also, the questions were different I believe. And of course, the experimental sections we are given ARE recycled for future tests, and that goes for LG and LRs as well! So, this really isn't anything to be surprised about.IHaveDietMoxie wrote:Wow, I can't believe they recycled these passages. I had all of these topics in december (and thought they were quite a bit easier than the real ones btw). If I had gotten these in Feb I would have nailed it. Seems incredibly unfair that they did this....
Also, if it just so happens that this recyling did make it easier for the test takers, I'm sure our undisclosed curve would represent that (we may have a -9 or -10).
So there really isn't anything to worry about. The LSAT is a fair, standardized test.
Do you believe they make an adjustment to the curve after the tests are reviewed? Many people seem to suggest otherwise, but I have yet to be convinced by either side on the issue.lgltm wrote:
Also, if it just so happens that this recyling did make it easier for the test takers, I'm sure our undisclosed curve would represent that (we may have a -9 or -10).
Well, okay, I don't think they would change the curve in that case. Let's try to see the probability of any adverse affects due to the recycling of the RC passages.maks25 wrote:except for the fact that many would get screwed because of it. I didn't write in Dec, why should should the curve be -8 to -9 for me?gltm wrote:Actually only two of them were ones I remembered. Also, the questions were different I believe. And of course, the experimental sections we are given ARE recycled for future tests, and that goes for LG and LRs as well! So, this really isn't anything to be surprised about.IHaveDietMoxie wrote:Wow, I can't believe they recycled these passages. I had all of these topics in december (and thought they were quite a bit easier than the real ones btw). If I had gotten these in Feb I would have nailed it. Seems incredibly unfair that they did this....
Also, if it just so happens that this recyling did make it easier for the test takers, I'm sure our undisclosed curve would represent that (we may have a -9 or -10).
So there really isn't anything to worry about. The LSAT is a fair, standardized test.
gltm wrote:Well, okay, I don't think they would change the curve in that case. Let's try to see the probability of any adverse affects due to the recycling of the RC passages.maks25 wrote:except for the fact that many would get screwed because of it. I didn't write in Dec, why should should the curve be -8 to -9 for me?gltm wrote:Actually only two of them were ones I remembered. Also, the questions were different I believe. And of course, the experimental sections we are given ARE recycled for future tests, and that goes for LG and LRs as well! So, this really isn't anything to be surprised about.IHaveDietMoxie wrote:Wow, I can't believe they recycled these passages. I had all of these topics in december (and thought they were quite a bit easier than the real ones btw). If I had gotten these in Feb I would have nailed it. Seems incredibly unfair that they did this....
Also, if it just so happens that this recyling did make it easier for the test takers, I'm sure our undisclosed curve would represent that (we may have a -9 or -10).
So there really isn't anything to worry about. The LSAT is a fair, standardized test.
How many test takers from December wrote again in Feb? I would say no more than 20%. How many of those 20% received an RC as an experimental? I'd say 25% of those, or in other words 5% of December test takers. How many remembered the content of the passages? I'd say a very, very small amount!
So the fact that someone did become exposed to these experimentals in the past does not mean that they had any unfair advantage. It's so easy to forget topics of discussion, so any chance of remebering the questions after writing the test seems miniscule.
I feel as if I did get a bit more familiar with the topics, but that doesn't mean that I did any better or worse than I would have if I hadn't.
The topics were just interesting which is why they felt easy.
Quite a leap there don't you think...all you've proven is that it's unlikely that the curve is affected by it, the individual itself on the other hand could very well have benefited greatly from having previously been exposed to the same passage.So the fact that someone did become exposed to these experimentals in the past does not mean that they had any unfair advantage.