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"if only" - sufficient v necessary
Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 5:48 pm
by Pax
How is "if only" treated in the context of sufficient and necessary condition indicators? For example,
Now, if only we could get the online TV, we'd be a truly high tech nation.
My understanding is that "if only" signifies sufficient condition since the sentence could be rewritten as
Now, if only we could get the online TV then we'd be a truly high tech nation.
Any thoughts?
Re: "if only" - sufficient v necessary
Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 5:52 pm
by pattymac
You're correct. You drop the only. So it's pretty much "if", so whatever follows it the sufficient condition. This doesn't apply to "only if" of course. And remember "if and only if" is inclusive so if "J goes if and only if H goes" means H & J go together no matter.
Re: "if only" - sufficient v necessary
Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 7:13 pm
by existenz
pattymac wrote:You're correct. You drop the only. So it's pretty much "if", so whatever follows it the sufficient condition. This doesn't apply to "only if" of course. And remember "if and only if" is inclusive so if "J goes if and only if H goes" means H & J go together no matter.
I think this is correct.
If only we could get the online TV, we'd be a truly high tech nation.
Online TV = O
Truly High Tech Nation = HT
O -- > HT
Regarding "if and only if", I'd clarify that H & J would either both go, or neither would go. But yes, they stay together in either instance.
Re: "if only" - sufficient v necessary
Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 10:30 pm
by borntokill
if only=if
Re: "if only" - sufficient v necessary
Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 10:57 pm
by pattymac
It's 100% correct. "If only" is equivalent to "if" vastly different from "only if."
Re: "if only" - sufficient v necessary
Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 10:00 am
by Pax
Thank you, Pattymac , existenz and borntokill.