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Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 10:01 pm
by Bloggr22
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Re: Very Low LSAT Score, High Hopes

Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 10:02 pm
by am060459
gotta break at least 155. keep studying for the june/september LSAT. good luck.

Re: Very Low LSAT Score, High Hopes

Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 10:07 pm
by Moxie
Please retake. Being an AA urm, and with a good GPA, there's no reason to ruin your cycle with your low LSAT score.

Re: Very Low LSAT Score, High Hopes

Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 10:10 pm
by Space_Cowboy
Not the LSAT in anyway predicts what kind of lawyer someone is going to be, but it does a decent job of test of testing some the skills needed during law school. If all you're getting is a 142, you might want to ask yourself if law school is a good fit with your skills and talents (which you obviously have given the 3.72 GPA).

Re: Very Low LSAT Score, High Hopes

Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 10:42 pm
by Bloggr22
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Re: Very Low LSAT Score, High Hopes

Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 10:49 pm
by GeesesAintTeethes
Bloggr22 wrote:So I took the June 2009 LSAT and scored a 137 (frankly speaking I was not ready and should have cancelled). I prepared for some months and took the Dec 2009 LSAT and got a 142. Needless to say, I am depressed and I feel as if I have a brain or test taking deficiency. I feel like an alien. I have a 3.72 from a moderately selective public undergrad institution. I have countless awards, part time/full time work, leadership, organizational, and volunteer experiences. I am an immigrant (came to the US at age 8 from a West African country). I also have some strong LORs.

1.What are the chances that my GPA will offset my LSAT??

2.Should I take the LSAT a THIRD time in June and wait to apply for the next cycle with a 150 or so?

3.Or should I apply anyway?

Surprisingly, I am considering Baltimore, Howard, Campbell, Temple, Charleston etc. Even more surprising, I am also looking at William and Mary, UVA, and American. Please be nice :cry:
Retake. You must be over 150 in order to even consider gaining admission.

Re: Very Low LSAT Score, High Hopes

Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 10:54 pm
by pattymac
Dude, no offence, but I would kill to be in your scenario. I'm locked into a shitty 2.6 GPA and I've worked really hard throughout University. I would kill for a 3.0 at this stage in the game, let alone a 3.7. COngrats on the awesome GPA, but don't let it go to waste.

Get the bibles, get Superprep, Mastery and all the 10 real/next ten/ten more books and sit down for three hours a day. Don't write the test until you're testing above 155.

Re: Very Low LSAT Score, High Hopes

Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 11:08 pm
by Kobe_Teeth
pattymac wrote:Dude, no offence, but I would kill to be in your scenario. I'm locked into a shitty 2.6 GPA and I've worked really hard throughout University. I would kill for a 3.0 at this stage in the game, let alone a 3.7. COngrats on the awesome GPA, but don't let it go to waste.

Get the bibles, get Superprep, Mastery and all the 10 real/next ten/ten more books and sit down for three hours a day. Don't write the test until you're testing above 155.

Everything he said I agree w/. Except the working hard during college.
Overall, buy the bibles, and the kaplan mastery and i would also advise....

Read everything you can get your hands on when you're not studying. Identify premises, conclusions, assumptions when you can, strengthen/weaken arguments in your head as you hear them come out of people's mouths etc...Become a machine. You can do this.

But also, if you can't break 150 (or even about 154 for that matter) on try #3 you might want to really re-consider.

Re: Very Low LSAT Score, High Hopes

Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 11:59 pm
by llawguru
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Re: Very Low LSAT Score, High Hopes

Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 12:05 am
by Bloggr22
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Re: Very Low LSAT Score, High Hopes

Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 12:06 am
by Bloggr22
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Re: Very Low LSAT Score, High Hopes

Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 12:07 am
by monkeyboy
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Exactly. "Don't stop believin', hold on to the feelin'." -Journey

Re: Very Low LSAT Score, High Hopes

Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 12:11 am
by strawinlemonade
everyone here's giving you great advice... you've earned an outstanding GPA and resume... beef up for feb lsat if you can, but don't let all your talents go to waste.

Re: Very Low LSAT Score, High Hopes

Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 12:12 am
by cubswin
Bloggr22 wrote:So I took the June 2009 LSAT and scored a 137... and took the Dec 2009 LSAT and got a 142.

UVA
Why waste the application fee?

Also: re-take in June.

Re: Very Low LSAT Score, High Hopes

Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 12:14 am
by chadwick218
Honestly, there is no use in applying anywhere this cycle! The URM bump will not give you the boost you need to possibly even crack a T3. Have you considered enrolling in a prep class?

Re: Very Low LSAT Score, High Hopes

Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 12:26 am
by Bloggr22
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Re: Very Low LSAT Score, High Hopes

Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 12:31 am
by vtoodler
What is the Kaplan Mastery. Is that Kaplan 180?

Re: Very Low LSAT Score, High Hopes

Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 12:45 am
by Space_Cowboy
Bloggr22 wrote:
chadwick218 wrote: Have you considered enrolling in a prep class?
Surprisingly, I took a PowerScore prep course before the Dec test from July-Sept. It was helpful, but I guess I went back to prepping the wrong way after the prep course ended *sighs*
Dude, I would really think twice about a career in law. Assuming you took the prep course seriously, a 142 seems to suggest real issues. Of the 125k unique test takers last year, there were only 85k unique applicants. A 142 is probably close to worst score among the people who end up applying. If law school was cheap, I'd say try it for a year and drop out.

Obviously give it your best shot if this is the career you want. You owe it to yourself. However, sometimes our talents don't line up with our desires. I would have loved to have been a scientist, but I realized I wasn't Rainman.

Re: Very Low LSAT Score, High Hopes

Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 12:48 am
by chass
Bloggr22 wrote:I will do a retake.

My issue is with time. I can't seem to finish the sections on time. And since I'm having to guess on one whole RC passage or on a game, I have more of a chance of getting more questions wrong. How can I speed up and maintain my accuracy at the same time? Any tips?
work on all accuracy forget timing for the moment. leave the last month for timing.

that's probably your issue. you sit down and study to get it over with rather than studying to understand each question, game.

Re: Very Low LSAT Score, High Hopes

Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 1:34 am
by Bloggr22
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Re: Very Low LSAT Score, High Hopes

Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 1:38 am
by monkeyboy
Space_Cowboy wrote:
Bloggr22 wrote:
chadwick218 wrote: Have you considered enrolling in a prep class?
Surprisingly, I took a PowerScore prep course before the Dec test from July-Sept. It was helpful, but I guess I went back to prepping the wrong way after the prep course ended *sighs*
Dude, I would really think twice about a career in law. Assuming you took the prep course seriously, a 142 seems to suggest real issues. Of the 125k unique test takers last year, there were only 85k unique applicants. A 142 is probably close to worst score among the people who end up applying. If law school was cheap, I'd say try it for a year and drop out.

Obviously give it your best shot if this is the career you want. You owe it to yourself. However, sometimes our talents don't line up with our desires. I would have loved to have been a scientist, but I realized I wasn't Rainman.
Dreams should always be followed. If law school is really your dream, if becoming an attorney is your goal in life, do not let it go. Study hard for the LSAT. Go over each question and understand what is going on. Don't just read and guess. Analyze, learn the form, comprehend. If this is your dream, make it happen. I know this post is a bit over the top, but do not give up on this if it is really your dream. If it is just an option that you've been considering, maybe you should reconsider, but don't let this one go if it is truly important to you.

Re: Very Low LSAT Score, High Hopes

Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 1:48 am
by monkeyboy
Bloggr22 wrote:
Space_Cowboy wrote: Dude, I would really think twice about a career in law.
I disagree.
Good for you. Don't listen to naysayers. I've seen people do some remarkable things in my limited experience on this planet, and the common denominator among all of those I've seen triumph is a will that can't be broken.

Re: Very Low LSAT Score, High Hopes

Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 1:53 am
by Space_Cowboy
Bloggr22 wrote:
Space_Cowboy wrote: Dude, I would really think twice about a career in law.
Please don't discourage me. One my professors was a law prof at Duke. She is one of my LORs and my pre-law adviser. I've had the highest average in all of her law related classes and yes she teaches them just like she did when she taught at the law school. I strongly disagree with you. I am more than just a number.
Well, even if its taught at the same level, I doubt your peers were on the same level of Duke 1/2/3Ls.

Anyway, I don't disagree about you being more than just a number. As I said earlier, you've clearly got some game as your GPA shows. I just think your struggles on the LSAT are worth some pause. We're not talking about a score in the middle of the pack, but one in 15th-20th percentile (and probably 5th percentile of actual applicants) after putting in real effort.

Re: Very Low LSAT Score, High Hopes

Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 1:56 am
by Space_Cowboy
monkeyboy wrote:
Bloggr22 wrote:
Space_Cowboy wrote: Dude, I would really think twice about a career in law.
I disagree.
Good for you. Don't listen to naysayers. I've seen people do some remarkable things in my limited experience on this planet, and the common denominator among all of those I've seen triumph is a will that can't be broken.
::shrugs:: Not everyone is going to be an exception to the rule. Law school can be an expensive mistake.

Re: Very Low LSAT Score, High Hopes

Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 2:04 am
by monkeyboy
Space_Cowboy wrote:
monkeyboy wrote:
Bloggr22 wrote:
Space_Cowboy wrote: Dude, I would really think twice about a career in law.
I disagree.
Good for you. Don't listen to naysayers. I've seen people do some remarkable things in my limited experience on this planet, and the common denominator among all of those I've seen triumph is a will that can't be broken.
::shrugs:: Not everyone is going to be an exception to the rule. Law school can be an expensive mistake.
We only get one rodeo. You know that. I feel sorry for anybody who doesn't follow his/her dreams.