June 2016 - Waiter's (+170 or bust) GRAY DAY HAS AWOKEN FROM ITS SLUMBER Forum

[R. Jeeves]

Just for another non LSAT discussion, what are some good law schools that have a good brand for biglaw outside of the t14? Obviously the higher up the better, but I'll be stuck with schools ranked in the 20's likely. I have a solid shot at Iowa (though thats mainly a regional super power), but how about GW, Fordham, Alabama, ASU?

Feel free to tell me to fuck off if you guys arent in an admissions talking mood on a waiters' thread .

Outside of the T14, you can get biglaw if you're top of your class from Fordham for NYC biglaw. GW, BU, USC, WUSTL, Vandy, etc. if you're also top of your class. Have you checked out law school transparency?

Thanks for the insight. I have not. I just looked it up, and it looks very helpful. There goes my afternoon.

wait law school transparency was what i was referring to by LST... what were you referring to?

[Mikey]

Just for another non LSAT discussion, what are some good law schools that have a good brand for biglaw outside of the t14? Obviously the higher up the better, but I'll be stuck with schools ranked in the 20's likely. I have a solid shot at Iowa (though thats mainly a regional super power), but how about GW, Fordham, Alabama, ASU?

Feel free to tell me to fuck off if you guys arent in an admissions talking mood on a waiters' thread .

Outside of the T14, you can get biglaw if you're top of your class from Fordham for NYC biglaw. GW, BU, USC, WUSTL, Vandy, etc. if you're also top of your class. Have you checked out law school transparency?

Thanks for the insight. I have not. I just looked it up, and it looks very helpful. There goes my afternoon.

Haha yeah, I've spent a fair amount of time looking at employment stats on there. It's good to know for schools of interest, imo.

[UltimateSplitter]

Just for another non LSAT discussion, what are some good law schools that have a good brand for biglaw outside of the t14? Obviously the higher up the better, but I'll be stuck with schools ranked in the 20's likely. I have a solid shot at Iowa (though thats mainly a regional super power), but how about GW, Fordham, Alabama, ASU?

Feel free to tell me to fuck off if you guys arent in an admissions talking mood on a waiters' thread .

Outside of the T14, you can get biglaw if you're top of your class from Fordham for NYC biglaw. GW, BU, USC, WUSTL, Vandy, etc. if you're also top of your class. Have you checked out law school transparency?

Thanks for the insight. I have not. I just looked it up, and it looks very helpful. There goes my afternoon.

wait law school transparency was what i was referring to by LST... what were you referring to?

I was thinking LSN for some reason sorry. I'm losing track of the acronyms.

[Mikey]

Just for another non LSAT discussion, what are some good law schools that have a good brand for biglaw outside of the t14? Obviously the higher up the better, but I'll be stuck with schools ranked in the 20's likely. I have a solid shot at Iowa (though thats mainly a regional super power), but how about GW, Fordham, Alabama, ASU?

Feel free to tell me to fuck off if you guys arent in an admissions talking mood on a waiters' thread .

Outside of the T14, you can get biglaw if you're top of your class from Fordham for NYC biglaw. GW, BU, USC, WUSTL, Vandy, etc. if you're also top of your class. Have you checked out law school transparency?

Thanks for the insight. I have not. I just looked it up, and it looks very helpful. There goes my afternoon.

wait law school transparency was what i was referring to by LST... what were you referring to?

I was thinking LSN for some reason sorry. I'm losing track of the acronyms.

LSN is great too

[R. Jeeves]

Just for another non LSAT discussion, what are some good law schools that have a good brand for biglaw outside of the t14? Obviously the higher up the better, but I'll be stuck with schools ranked in the 20's likely. I have a solid shot at Iowa (though thats mainly a regional super power), but how about GW, Fordham, Alabama, ASU?

Feel free to tell me to fuck off if you guys arent in an admissions talking mood on a waiters' thread .

Outside of the T14, you can get biglaw if you're top of your class from Fordham for NYC biglaw. GW, BU, USC, WUSTL, Vandy, etc. if you're also top of your class. Have you checked out law school transparency?

Thanks for the insight. I have not. I just looked it up, and it looks very helpful. There goes my afternoon.

wait law school transparency was what i was referring to by LST... what were you referring to?

I was thinking LSN for some reason sorry. I'm losing track of the acronyms.

yeah theres a bunch of them haha. I think the number that will interest you the most for each school is the Biglaw% + Fed Clerk%. Presumably this is becuase the fed clerkers could have gotten biglaw if they wanted (someone correct me if im off base here)

[UltimateSplitter]

yeah theres a bunch of them haha. I think the number that will interest you the most for each school is the Biglaw% + Fed Clerk%. Presumably this is becuase the fed clerkers could have gotten biglaw if they wanted (someone correct me if im off base here)

Thats a great point. I'll check that out next. My productivity just completely ended. I'll probably be scouring LST until beer league softball at 6.

[pretzeltime]

yeah theres a bunch of them haha. I think the number that will interest you the most for each school is the Biglaw% + Fed Clerk%. Presumably this is becuase the fed clerkers could have gotten biglaw if they wanted (someone correct me if im off base here)

Thats a great point. I'll check that out next. My productivity just completely ended. I'll probably be scouring LST until beer league softball at 6.

omg you do ALL the fun things!

I gotta kill time until my first french class this evening (lel) so I think I will do that, minus the league and the softball.

I'm of the opinion that all language classes should have a 2 drink minimum.

[UltimateSplitter]

yeah theres a bunch of them haha. I think the number that will interest you the most for each school is the Biglaw% + Fed Clerk%. Presumably this is becuase the fed clerkers could have gotten biglaw if they wanted (someone correct me if im off base here)

Thats a great point. I'll check that out next. My productivity just completely ended. I'll probably be scouring LST until beer league softball at 6.

omg you do ALL the fun things!

I gotta kill time until my first french class this evening (lel) so I think I will do that, minus the league and the softball.

I'm of the opinion that all language classes should have a 2 drink minimum.

There's absolutely nothing wrong with sluring French words. You should do 2 wine bottle minimum.

[pretzeltime]

yeah theres a bunch of them haha. I think the number that will interest you the most for each school is the Biglaw% + Fed Clerk%. Presumably this is becuase the fed clerkers could have gotten biglaw if they wanted (someone correct me if im off base here)

Thats a great point. I'll check that out next. My productivity just completely ended. I'll probably be scouring LST until beer league softball at 6.

omg you do ALL the fun things!

I gotta kill time until my first french class this evening (lel) so I think I will do that, minus the league and the softball.

I'm of the opinion that all language classes should have a 2 drink minimum.

There's absolutely nothing wrong with sluring French words. You should do 2 wine bottle minimum.

yeah I mean it's part of the French milieu anyways, right?

[UltimateSplitter]

yeah theres a bunch of them haha. I think the number that will interest you the most for each school is the Biglaw% + Fed Clerk%. Presumably this is becuase the fed clerkers could have gotten biglaw if they wanted (someone correct me if im off base here)

Thats a great point. I'll check that out next. My productivity just completely ended. I'll probably be scouring LST until beer league softball at 6.

omg you do ALL the fun things!

I gotta kill time until my first french class this evening (lel) so I think I will do that, minus the league and the softball.

I'm of the opinion that all language classes should have a 2 drink minimum.

There's absolutely nothing wrong with sluring French words. You should do 2 wine bottle minimum.

yeah I mean it's part of the French milieu anyways, right?

Absolutely. If you need to justify calories, then bike to the lesson. I am into cycling, and I bike to all the games, burn 1000 calories, and intake 800 in beer.

[pretzeltime]

yeah theres a bunch of them haha. I think the number that will interest you the most for each school is the Biglaw% + Fed Clerk%. Presumably this is becuase the fed clerkers could have gotten biglaw if they wanted (someone correct me if im off base here)

Thats a great point. I'll check that out next. My productivity just completely ended. I'll probably be scouring LST until beer league softball at 6.

omg you do ALL the fun things!

I gotta kill time until my first french class this evening (lel) so I think I will do that, minus the league and the softball.

I'm of the opinion that all language classes should have a 2 drink minimum.

There's absolutely nothing wrong with sluring French words. You should do 2 wine bottle minimum.

yeah I mean it's part of the French milieu anyways, right?

Absolutely. If you need to justify calories, then bike to the lesson. I am into cycling, and I bike to all the games, burn 1000 calories, and intake 800 in beer.

my kind of human!

yeah I do that except with walking! I try to walk everywhere.

[Hennessy]

Everyone post their hobbies!

[Bearlyalive]

Just for another non LSAT discussion, what are some good law schools that have a good brand for biglaw outside of the t14? Obviously the higher up the better, but I'll be stuck with schools ranked in the 20's likely. I have a solid shot at Iowa (though thats mainly a regional super power), but how about GW, Fordham, Alabama, ASU?

Feel free to tell me to fuck off if you guys arent in an admissions talking mood on a waiters' thread .

Outside the t14 schools get a lot more regional. USC would give you an alright shot at LA biglaw, Emory at Atlanta biglaw, WUSTL at Chicago, BC/BU at Boston, etc. I probably wouldn't recommend GW simply because DC biglaw is already a hyper-competitive market (few positions compared to demand due to the preftige of DC), so you'll be competing against heavy hitters from top schools. Some markets are also fairly insular; I've heard that breaking into Boston isn't very easy, even if you go to BC/BU, unless you were born there or have lived there a substantial amount of time. NYC is the easiest market to break into due to the sheer amount of jobs available and the fact that you don't really need ties to the city, but I don't know how well the regional schools (Fordham and such) do.

For each of these schools, you should look at the employment numbers. Law School Transparency has good breakdowns. But you should also not invest yourself too much in the idea of biglaw, because few schools outside the top 20 give you better than a coins flip chance. You should definitely not attend USC for 200k debt because you think you're a shoe in for LA biglaw.

[pretzeltime]

Everyone post their hobbies!

fun! you go

[Hennessy]

Just for another non LSAT discussion, what are some good law schools that have a good brand for biglaw outside of the t14? Obviously the higher up the better, but I'll be stuck with schools ranked in the 20's likely. I have a solid shot at Iowa (though thats mainly a regional super power), but how about GW, Fordham, Alabama, ASU?

Feel free to tell me to fuck off if you guys arent in an admissions talking mood on a waiters' thread .

Outside the t14 schools get a lot more regional. USC would give you an alright shot at LA biglaw, Emory at Atlanta biglaw, WUSTL at Chicago, BC/BU at Boston, etc. I probably wouldn't recommend GW simply because DC biglaw is already a hyper-competitive market (few positions compared to demand due to the preftige of DC), so you'll be competing against heavy hitters from top schools. Some markets are also fairly insular; I've heard that breaking into Boston isn't very easy, even if you go to BC/BU, unless you were born there or have lived there a substantial amount of time. NYC is the easiest market to break into due to the sheer amount of jobs available and the fact that you don't really need ties to the city, but I don't know how well the regional schools (Fordham and such) do.

For each of these schools, you should look at the employment numbers. Law School Transparency has good breakdowns. But you should also not invest yourself too much in the idea of biglaw, because few schools outside the top 20 give you better than a coins flip chance. You should definitely not attend USC for 200k debt because you think you're a shoe in for LA biglaw.

Thank you for all the advice re: schools and biglaw.

[UltimateSplitter]

Just for another non LSAT discussion, what are some good law schools that have a good brand for biglaw outside of the t14? Obviously the higher up the better, but I'll be stuck with schools ranked in the 20's likely. I have a solid shot at Iowa (though thats mainly a regional super power), but how about GW, Fordham, Alabama, ASU?

Feel free to tell me to fuck off if you guys arent in an admissions talking mood on a waiters' thread .

Outside the t14 schools get a lot more regional. USC would give you an alright shot at LA biglaw, Emory at Atlanta biglaw, WUSTL at Chicago, BC/BU at Boston, etc. I probably wouldn't recommend GW simply because DC biglaw is already a hyper-competitive market (few positions compared to demand due to the preftige of DC), so you'll be competing against heavy hitters from top schools. Some markets are also fairly insular; I've heard that breaking into Boston isn't very easy, even if you go to BC/BU, unless you were born there or have lived there a substantial amount of time. NYC is the easiest market to break into due to the sheer amount of jobs available and the fact that you don't really need ties to the city, but I don't know how well the regional schools (Fordham and such) do.

For each of these schools, you should look at the employment numbers. Law School Transparency has good breakdowns. But you should also not invest yourself too much in the idea of biglaw, because few schools outside the top 20 give you better than a coins flip chance. You should definitely not attend USC for 200k debt because you think you're a shoe in for LA biglaw.

Good points. I am pretty focused on the East coast, and I wasn't even thinking how competitive DC is already. I'll probably focus on Boston or NY then. Thanks for the detailed input.

[Bearlyalive]

BTW, for any and all waiters, my best advice is to just consume information posted on the Employment forum here. As 0Ls you are not allowed to post in that forum, but there are great threads about debt, what the day-to-day lives of attorneys actually look like, and what different jobs actually entail (and how to get the one you want).

[Mikey]

Hobbies: video games, binge watching netflix, bike riding in the summer (though I haven't started yet lol), and that's really it for me tbh.

eta: forgot to mention my interest in photography, but I'm terrible with manually doing it so I stopped

[Mikey]

BTW, for any and all waiters, my best advice is to just consume information posted on the Employment forum here. As 0Ls you are not allowed to post in that forum, but there are great threads about debt, what the day-to-day lives of attorneys actually look like, and what different jobs actually entail (and how to get the one you want).

Thanks! I've snooped in there a few times and attorneys' daily work and schedules seem really helpful, imo.

[Hennessy]

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[bmathers]

Everyone post their hobbies!

fun! you go

Hobbies for me include the gym, ANW/obstacle training, watching sports (college are my favorite), dogs/animals.

I'll leave it at that.

[meeseeks]

Everyone post their hobbies!

My dog, golf, Netflix, reading, College Football, and bar hopping. Nothing too adventurous.

[Dodocogon]

Everyone post their hobbies!

Golf, soccer, spectator sports (I'll watch anything, favorites being my College's athletics and MLS soccer), video games, Netflix binges, and I play assorted sports just stay active. Always open to new activities though!

[TAD]

PretZel I'll teach you French on here. And u can drink all u want. Best of both worlds. And A+ all around...should count as a credited class for lsac gpa.

J'ai Parle la langue d'amour depuis j'ai 12 ans.

Also I play basketball, lift weights and enjoy reading books by john Grisham.

[RoryC]

By Josh, do you mean John? If so, I agree and John Grisham is lots of fun.