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WHATS THE FUCKING CURVE

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Re: June 2016 - Waiter's Thread (+170 or bust)

Post by Mikey » Tue Jun 14, 2016 4:11 pm

Mr. Meeseeks wrote:
TheMikey wrote: If you go back to earlier on in this thread, people distinguished between the real LRs and the experimental LR with some of the question topics in each.
Yeah I read through those. My LR sections went 25Q 1st, 26Q 3rd, and 26Q 4th. However I can't remember for the life of me which of the two 26Q sections had the fake questions on it.

So instead I just sit anxiously and hope for some moments of recollection that could resolve the mystery.
Yeah I get you. I had an RC experimental section and luckily it was the one that I know I performed worse on compared to the real one. Thanks to TLS I know which was exp. and which was real ^_^

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Re: June 2016 - Waiter's Thread (+170 or bust)

Post by Hennessy » Tue Jun 14, 2016 4:12 pm

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HennessyVSOP wrote:Does anyone else feel like they legitimately may have overperformed themselves on this test?

I keep thinking back to both RC sections and both LR sections and how confident I felt in all the final 7 answers that I could check...
Mmm whenever my mind strays in this direction I try to get it back in check. I do have 5 second stretches where I'm like "what if I got a 177 or something gnarly like that" and then I rein it back in.

For me at least, the heightened vibes of test day make it hard to evaluate myself completely. Especially in RC as was mentioned. In Dec I thought I SLAYED RC, like it was the easiest RC section I've ever had, and it turns out I tanked an entire passage which has never ever happened to me on a PT.

I was so stressed for this RC that I honestly blacked out at the end. Really can't say how I did.

LR is also a bit hard for me to estimate correctly, as there are always a handful that are down to two answers and that could go my way or not.

The LG however I can pretty confidently say I nailed. Touch wood yo

(All of this not even taking into account my timing strugs)

Anyway I think it's best (for me) to try to set my expectations on the lower end. I guess if I fucked it up it'll be devastating no matter what my expectations are tho...
This is my worst fear, because there is a distinct possibility that this is what actually happened for me, in which case a little mistake here or there on LR/LG would put me below my target score

agggh stop y'all let me imagine this 174 just for a little while until the crushing blow of greyday hits

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Re: June 2016 - Waiter's Thread (+170 or bust)

Post by Mikey » Tue Jun 14, 2016 4:12 pm

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Mikey have you started thinking about what your 1000th post will be? My vote is for the number 180, 180 times.
I have no idea, I'll think of something or go with your suggestion ;)

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Re: June 2016 - Waiter's Thread (+170 or bust)

Post by pretzeltime » Tue Jun 14, 2016 4:12 pm

Smallville wrote:yeah dont wanna be a downer but I felt sooo much better on my second take, thought pretty good about a lot of it and my score ended up dropping :/ (though im sure y'all will have over performed and done killer!)

Nah, not a downer, just giving a reality check. Which is helpful.

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Re: June 2016 - Waiter's Thread (+170 or bust)

Post by forum_user » Tue Jun 14, 2016 4:13 pm

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HennessyVSOP wrote:Does anyone else feel like they legitimately may have overperformed themselves on this test?

I keep thinking back to both RC sections and both LR sections and how confident I felt in all the final 7 answers that I could check...
I also feel very confident about all 4 scored sections and am legitimately hoping I bested my highest PT score. Hopefully it wasn't just an easy test resulting in a million 170+ scores...
See this is where the curve/scale comes into play. It sounds like a lot of people think this was an easy test, which ought to indicate that it'll be -11 at most, more likely -10 or even -9. This is something a lot of people don't take into consideration when they think about their score, but it'll ultimately be the score scale that makes the difference here.

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Re: June 2016 - Waiter's Thread (+170 or bust)

Post by R. Jeeves » Tue Jun 14, 2016 4:14 pm

HennessyVSOP wrote:less pretzals, more cognac
I had one of the frapin multimillesime cognacs at my uncles house recently. it was really fucking smooth. i think its one of the fancier ones? (im no cognac expert). im usually a whiskey person but ive grown more partial to cognac recently and i want to cultivate a taste for them. give me some recs.
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Re: June 2016 - Waiter's Thread (+170 or bust)

Post by forum_user » Tue Jun 14, 2016 4:14 pm

TheMikey wrote:
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TheMikey wrote:
Mikey have you started thinking about what your 1000th post will be? My vote is for the number 180, 180 times.
I have no idea, I'll think of something or go with your suggestion ;)
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Re: June 2016 - Waiter's Thread (+170 or bust)

Post by meeseeks » Tue Jun 14, 2016 4:14 pm

pretzeltime wrote:
Smallville wrote:yeah dont wanna be a downer but I felt sooo much better on my second take, thought pretty good about a lot of it and my score ended up dropping :/ (though im sure y'all will have over performed and done killer!)

Nah, not a downer, just giving a reality check. Which is helpful.
Yeah I agree with Pretzel. The illusions of grandeur are nice but frankly I'm just hoping for -5 off of my PT average leading up to the test.

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Re: June 2016 - Waiter's Thread (+170 or bust)

Post by Keilz » Tue Jun 14, 2016 4:15 pm

pretzeltime wrote:
Smallville wrote:yeah dont wanna be a downer but I felt sooo much better on my second take, thought pretty good about a lot of it and my score ended up dropping :/ (though im sure y'all will have over performed and done killer!)

why would you tell me this

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Re: June 2016 - Waiter's Thread (+170 or bust)

Post by Mikey » Tue Jun 14, 2016 4:15 pm

forum_user wrote:
TheMikey wrote:
forum_user wrote:
TheMikey wrote:
Mikey have you started thinking about what your 1000th post will be? My vote is for the number 180, 180 times.
I have no idea, I'll think of something or go with your suggestion ;)
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Re: June 2016 - Waiter's Thread (+170 or bust)

Post by pretzeltime » Tue Jun 14, 2016 4:17 pm

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Re: June 2016 - Waiter's Thread (+170 or bust)

Post by carasrook » Tue Jun 14, 2016 4:18 pm

i'm positive i did worse than my average because of my LG eff up... but here's hoping i'm underestimating myself

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Re: June 2016 - Waiter's Thread (+170 or bust)

Post by Mikey » Tue Jun 14, 2016 4:18 pm

carasrook wrote:i'm positive i did worse than my average because of my LG eff up... but here's hoping i'm underestimating myself
I feel the same way honestly. I really hope I hit around my PT average but I don't feel like I did.

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Re: June 2016 - Waiter's Thread (+170 or bust)

Post by Bearlyalive » Tue Jun 14, 2016 4:19 pm

HennessyVSOP wrote:Does anyone else feel like they legitimately may have overperformed themselves on this test?

I keep thinking back to both RC sections and both LR sections and how confident I felt in all the final 7 answers that I could check...
FWIW, when I finished my LSAT (second take) I walked out humming James Brown's "I Feel Good" and ended up scoring above my PT average :D

Figured it'd be nice to spread good vibes to combat the bad juju.

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Re: June 2016 - Waiter's Thread (+170 or bust)

Post by Smallville » Tue Jun 14, 2016 4:19 pm

pretzeltime wrote:Unfortunately I only discovered TLS after my first take.

I went in scoring all over the place in the 160s, high of 169, and like many others thought I had a lil miracle shot at doing better than my average or personal best. Instead I did worse than my average

Hehe.

I think it's important to pipe up and be realistic so others know what to expect.

If I'd known that this is reality more or less, I wouldn't have taken the Dec test.

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Re: June 2016 - Waiter's Thread (+170 or bust)

Post by Mikey » Tue Jun 14, 2016 4:20 pm

Bearlyalive wrote:
HennessyVSOP wrote:Does anyone else feel like they legitimately may have overperformed themselves on this test?

I keep thinking back to both RC sections and both LR sections and how confident I felt in all the final 7 answers that I could check...
FWIW, when I finished my LSAT (second take) I walked out humming James Brown's "I Feel Good" and ended up scoring above my PT average :D

Figured it'd be nice to spread good vibes to combat the bad juju.
If a retake is needed, I will do exactly what you did when leaving the room after the test.

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Re: June 2016 - Waiter's Thread (+170 or bust)

Post by Smallville » Tue Jun 14, 2016 4:23 pm

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Bearlyalive wrote:
HennessyVSOP wrote:Does anyone else feel like they legitimately may have overperformed themselves on this test?

I keep thinking back to both RC sections and both LR sections and how confident I felt in all the final 7 answers that I could check...
FWIW, when I finished my LSAT (second take) I walked out humming James Brown's "I Feel Good" and ended up scoring above my PT average :D

Figured it'd be nice to spread good vibes to combat the bad juju.
If a retake is needed, I will do exactly what you did when leaving the room after the test.
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Re: June 2016 - Waiter's Thread (+170 or bust)

Post by Bearlyalive » Tue Jun 14, 2016 4:24 pm

TheMikey wrote:
Bearlyalive wrote:
HennessyVSOP wrote:Does anyone else feel like they legitimately may have overperformed themselves on this test?

I keep thinking back to both RC sections and both LR sections and how confident I felt in all the final 7 answers that I could check...
FWIW, when I finished my LSAT (second take) I walked out humming James Brown's "I Feel Good" and ended up scoring above my PT average :D

Figured it'd be nice to spread good vibes to combat the bad juju.
If a retake is needed, I will do exactly what you did when leaving the room after the test.
Step two is to go straight from the testing center to a hole-in-the-wall Mexican restaurant with fantastic tacos (and also probably the hottest salsa I have ever tasted).

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Re: June 2016 - Waiter's Thread (+170 or bust)

Post by Mikey » Tue Jun 14, 2016 4:24 pm

Smallville wrote:
TheMikey wrote:
Bearlyalive wrote:
HennessyVSOP wrote:Does anyone else feel like they legitimately may have overperformed themselves on this test?

I keep thinking back to both RC sections and both LR sections and how confident I felt in all the final 7 answers that I could check...
FWIW, when I finished my LSAT (second take) I walked out humming James Brown's "I Feel Good" and ended up scoring above my PT average :D

Figured it'd be nice to spread good vibes to combat the bad juju.
If a retake is needed, I will do exactly what you did when leaving the room after the test.
taking advice from bearly is credited
I believe you. Bearly's humming ritual looks legit af.

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Re: June 2016 - Waiter's Thread (+170 or bust)

Post by Keilz » Tue Jun 14, 2016 4:26 pm

FWIW I scored a point below what I wanted in order to not retake. I guess it was around my average, I took so many ones at the end that I didn't really average. I completely messed up one game and sporadically did the last one and only got -6 on that section. I also weirdly got -7 on one LR, which I didn't expect. Also on RC my watch didn't start (1st section) so I rushed it but only got -4. But I got a 166 so it's not like I bombed it. (October 2015)

This time I didn't mess up logic games because I prepped that way more, so I'm hoping I got a few points more

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Re: June 2016 - Waiter's Thread (+170 or bust)

Post by R. Jeeves » Tue Jun 14, 2016 4:27 pm

pretzeltime wrote:The LG however I can pretty confidently say I nailed. Touch wood yo
i felt really good about this LG. like REALLY good. in fact, the fact that i feel like i nailed it might be the reason that im not going apeshit over the timing fiasco. its the reason i prob wont cancel my score either.

I didnt have time to check stuff on LR and i had to make some fast decisions on the last RC passage due to the proctor fuckup. I didnt find the RC to be particularly hard, but since a lot of people are saying its hard it gives me hope for an average to generous curve even despite the easy LG.

I want to estimate that I missed like 3 ish on the RC, and I want to estimate that I missed 2-3 on LR. It might be a LOT worse than this though. Right now i don't feel like i missed any of the early questions in any section (or maybe like 1) - i feel like i only missed some of the later ones because of the time shafting, but I could be wrong about that and may have gotten severely fucked. Its always kinda hard to evaluate because youre always in a WAYYY different mental state during the test.

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Re: June 2016 - Waiter's Thread (+170 or bust)

Post by meeseeks » Tue Jun 14, 2016 4:32 pm

R. Jeeves wrote:
pretzeltime wrote:The LG however I can pretty confidently say I nailed. Touch wood yo
i felt really good about this LG. like REALLY good. in fact, the fact that i feel like i nailed it might be the reason that im not going apeshit over the timing fiasco. its the reason i prob wont cancel my score either.

I didnt have time to check stuff on LR and i had to make some fast decisions on the last RC passage due to the proctor fuckup. I didnt find the RC to be particularly hard, but since a lot of people are saying its hard it gives me hope for an average to generous curve even despite the easy LG.

I want to estimate that I missed like 3 ish on the RC, and I want to estimate that I missed 2-3 on LR. It might be a LOT worse than this though. Right now i don't feel like i missed any of the early questions in any section (or maybe like 1) - i feel like i only missed some of the later ones because of the time shafting, but I could be wrong about that and may have gotten severely fucked. Its always kinda hard to evaluate because youre always in a WAYYY different mental state during the test.
The whole mind set thing is tough for me. I can only remember the questions that I struggled on. Not the ones I found easy. I feel like that emphasis is making it seem like there are "more" of them when there actually might not be.

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Re: June 2016 - Waiter's Thread (+170 or bust)

Post by Alive97 » Tue Jun 14, 2016 4:33 pm

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Alive97 wrote:
HennessyVSOP wrote:Does anyone else feel like they legitimately may have overperformed themselves on this test?

I keep thinking back to both RC sections and both LR sections and how confident I felt in all the final 7 answers that I could check...
I also feel very confident about all 4 scored sections and am legitimately hoping I bested my highest PT score. Hopefully it wasn't just an easy test resulting in a million 170+ scores...
See this is where the curve/scale comes into play. It sounds like a lot of people think this was an easy test, which ought to indicate that it'll be -11 at most, more likely -10 or even -9. This is something a lot of people don't take into consideration when they think about their score, but it'll ultimately be the score scale that makes the difference here.
Yeah I was just noticing that this cycle, the number of 170+ scores went up disproportionately. Maybe LSAC is underestimating the level of preparation people put into it these days? Hopefully not.

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Re: June 2016 - Waiter's Thread (+170 or bust)

Post by Smallville » Tue Jun 14, 2016 4:36 pm

Alive97 wrote:
forum_user wrote:
Alive97 wrote:
HennessyVSOP wrote:Does anyone else feel like they legitimately may have overperformed themselves on this test?

I keep thinking back to both RC sections and both LR sections and how confident I felt in all the final 7 answers that I could check...
I also feel very confident about all 4 scored sections and am legitimately hoping I bested my highest PT score. Hopefully it wasn't just an easy test resulting in a million 170+ scores...
See this is where the curve/scale comes into play. It sounds like a lot of people think this was an easy test, which ought to indicate that it'll be -11 at most, more likely -10 or even -9. This is something a lot of people don't take into consideration when they think about their score, but it'll ultimately be the score scale that makes the difference here.
Yeah I was just noticing that this cycle, the number of 170+ scores went up disproportionately. Maybe LSAC is underestimating the level of preparation people put into it these days? Hopefully not.
even if its so, just gotta get apps in early, it'll take a bit b4 schools adapt to the plethora of higher scores

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Re: June 2016 - Waiter's Thread (+170 or bust)

Post by pretzeltime » Tue Jun 14, 2016 4:37 pm

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