Yes, yes I am.barkingbug wrote:Hilarious. It's USNWR. Since when does the methodology matter? Are you a Cooley student?aznflyingpanda wrote:If you think those specialty rankings matter, look at the methodology. It's totally bogus.
WTF Is Up With these USNWR IP Rankings???
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"These specialty rankings are based solely on votes by legal educators, who nominated up to 15 schools in each field. Legal educators chosen were a selection of those listed in the Association of American Law Schools Directory of Law Teachers 2007-2008 as currently teaching in that field. In the case of clinical and legal writing, the nominations were made by directors or members of the clinical and legal writing programs at each law school. Those programs that received the most top 15 nominations appear in descending order."
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Re: WTF Is Up With these USNWR IP Rankings???
Huh, I see DePaul got bumped off...
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Clearly, we can see that you must have been honest when writing that you went to Cooley. Only a graduate from that school could possibly copy and paste with such skill, even if the content contradicts the point you attempted to make.aznflyingpanda wrote:"These specialty rankings are based solely on votes by legal educators, who nominated up to 15 schools in each field. Legal educators chosen were a selection of those listed in the Association of American Law Schools Directory of Law Teachers 2007-2008 as currently teaching in that field. In the case of clinical and legal writing, the nominations were made by directors or members of the clinical and legal writing programs at each law school. Those programs that received the most top 15 nominations appear in descending order."
Bottom line, the specialty rankings are just as valid as anything else USNWR puts out there. If you know that you are going into a specific field, putting stock in these rankings would be wise.
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a little late on this, but no one has really been talking about santa clara. santa clara is a great school to go to for ip IF (IF!!!) you want to work in silicon valley. my family works in silicon valley and santa clara has an extremely good repuation there, and a lot of extremely established lawyers (including some general counsels of some pretty large tech companies) have come from there.
obviously this location caveat doesn't really apply to FP, but, they've got something else.
also, anyone who says the IP rankings are totally bogus is forgetting that GWU has always been famous for IP and you probably would be better off going there for IP and graduating with better grades than going to one of the generically higher ranked schools that doesn't have as established an IP program and being a mediocre student.
obviously this location caveat doesn't really apply to FP, but, they've got something else.
also, anyone who says the IP rankings are totally bogus is forgetting that GWU has always been famous for IP and you probably would be better off going there for IP and graduating with better grades than going to one of the generically higher ranked schools that doesn't have as established an IP program and being a mediocre student.
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- flyingpanda
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Legal educators are not going to hire you for legal jobs.barkingbug wrote:Clearly, we can see that you must have been honest when writing that you went to Cooley. Only a graduate from that school could possibly copy and paste with such skill, even if the content contradicts the point you attempted to make.aznflyingpanda wrote:"These specialty rankings are based solely on votes by legal educators, who nominated up to 15 schools in each field. Legal educators chosen were a selection of those listed in the Association of American Law Schools Directory of Law Teachers 2007-2008 as currently teaching in that field. In the case of clinical and legal writing, the nominations were made by directors or members of the clinical and legal writing programs at each law school. Those programs that received the most top 15 nominations appear in descending order."
Bottom line, the specialty rankings are just as valid as anything else USNWR puts out there. If you know that you are going into a specific field, putting stock in these rankings would be wise.
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It depends on what you define as "stock". UH shows up on that list and Texas doesn't. I know a couple of Houston IP attorneys that have said for an IP focus it would be smart to pick UH over a school like SMU, but that you would be nuts to pick UH over Texas.barkingbug wrote: Bottom line, the specialty rankings are just as valid as anything else USNWR puts out there. If you know that you are going into a specific field, putting stock in these rankings would be wise.
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It is not the be all and end all, but the rankings carry weight. I doubt that FP would be placing better than regional T2s (as it is) if not for the reputation of its IP program. Apparently, managing partners do not ignore specialty rankings when they hire specialty attorneys. Go figure.Stringer Bell wrote:It depends on what you define as "stock". UH shows up on that list and Texas doesn't. I know a couple of Houston IP attorneys that have said for an IP focus it would be smart to pick UH over a school like SMU, but that you would be nuts to pick UH over Texas.barkingbug wrote: Bottom line, the specialty rankings are just as valid as anything else USNWR puts out there. If you know that you are going into a specific field, putting stock in these rankings would be wise.
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Re: WTF Is Up With these USNWR IP Rankings???
Yes they do ignore specialty ratings. Some schools have known programs that cause them to appear in the IP rankings, but its not appearing in the rankings that get them noticed. Santa Clara and FP have good IP, and therefore are known. Since they are known they get in the IP rankings.barkingbug wrote:It is not the be all and end all, but the rankings carry weight. I doubt that FP would be placing better than regional T2s (as it is) if not for the reputation of its IP program. Apparently, managing partners do not ignore specialty rankings when they hire specialty attorneys. Go figure.Stringer Bell wrote:It depends on what you define as "stock". UH shows up on that list and Texas doesn't. I know a couple of Houston IP attorneys that have said for an IP focus it would be smart to pick UH over a school like SMU, but that you would be nuts to pick UH over Texas.barkingbug wrote: Bottom line, the specialty rankings are just as valid as anything else USNWR puts out there. If you know that you are going into a specific field, putting stock in these rankings would be wise.
Just look at the methodology of the IP rankings. It is ridiculous.
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