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Jobs during year off

Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2017 1:30 am
by O.J.
I'll have an entire year off between UG and LS. I was going to take it off to focus on family and creative endeavors, but now I'm wondering if I should take a job in law somewhere, maybe part time. What do you guys think? Would it have any bearing on my LS application, or just a useless soft? If I were to take a gig in law, what would you suggest for a year? What kind of entry level stuff is out there for prospective 0L students?

Re: Jobs during year off

Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2017 2:15 am
by emkay625
The answer to this question depends on a few things. Do you need the income from a job to live right now? And what will your financial situation be like in law school? But if neither is a huge concern, I'd recommend spending the year doing something you love that is still substantive. Intern somewhere part time in a field you're really interested in. Volunteer for a cause you care a lot about. Etc. Spend the rest of your time hanging out with friends and family and having fun.

Re: Jobs during year off

Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2017 2:16 am
by WamBamThankYouMaam
Definitely get at least a part-time job, some schools won't look fondly on a gap in your resume. I know people here have mentioned schools emailing them asking about gaps in their resumes.

Re: Jobs during year off

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 4:39 am
by brinicolec
In hindsight, I should've been a stripper for this time off. Surprisingly lucrative career, great full body workout. Anyway, to answer your questions: I'm not really sure how much a law job is going to boost your app. I had that same thought prior to my gap year but ended up just being a bartender because it's a chill job and I make enough. But also, I don't think having a job as like... a paralegal or something... is going to be the thing on your resume that gives you an edge over someone with similar stats. I agree with the person above me, just. do. something. to avoid a gap on your resume. Preferably something enjoyable.

Re: Jobs during year off

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 4:44 am
by KMart
emkay625 wrote:The answer to this question depends on a few things. Do you need the income from a job to live right now? And what will your financial situation be like in law school? But if neither is a huge concern, I'd recommend spending the year doing something you love that is still substantive. Intern somewhere part time in a field you're really interested in. Volunteer for a cause you care a lot about. Etc. Spend the rest of your time hanging out with friends and family and having fun.
This is 100% the right answer. A job in a law firm isn't going to materially help you. The only way I can see it being helpful is by showing you what it's like to work in a law firm, but this is only good for people who are unsure if they even want to go to Law School (i.e. not you). If you can, sit back and relax and do something you really love. If you need to make money for a year, chase money.

Re: Jobs during year off

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 8:10 am
by zeglo
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Re: Jobs during year off

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 10:39 am
by hangingtree
This shouldn't be a huge factor in your decision, but if you're very unfamiliar with the practice of law you'd probably benefit from working in law in some capacity. The experience would color how you approach interviewing, studying, and even taking exams. When I started law school it wasn't immediately clear to me what makes a good lawyer. I felt in the dark until at least OCI. Everyone feels this way, but I think the people who are familiar with practicing law before law school have a not insignificant edge. I'd venture to say you may even perform better on exams with prior legal experience. Maybe.

Exactly what KMart said, but wanted to elaborate on how it might help you.

Re: Jobs during year off

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 3:45 pm
by waldorf
Are you just so wealthy that you don't need to work at all during a year? You don't have to answer that but I'm confused as to how/why someone would go an entire year without working. Also, remember that you won't be working a lot (or at all) during law school - it wouldn't hurt to have even a small financial cushion.

During my gap year, I worked on political campaigns through election season and am now a legal assistant at a law firm. I do need the money to live, so not working at all wasn't an option for me, but I did decide to look for jobs that interested me. Being a legal assistant has definitely been helpful - my only exposure to law was through my dad, who did exclusively criminal law - and I have learned a lot about different areas of the law, even if it's just basic stuff.

Side note: I did not work at a law firm to boost my resume or help my chances (at school or in the career field). I did it because it interests me, it pays well, I love the people I work with, and I've learned a lot. I don't expect it to help my chances in any way. My work experience in politics is very extensive though, so I got some great recommendations through that and in interviews, brought up my extensive political work experience and GPA as indicators that I will be a successful law student despite my less than stellar LSAT score.

TLDR; I got a job because I need the money to live and I enjoy the work. I wouldn't have wanted to waitress, work retail, etc. as a part time job - I did want to do something I enjoy while making money and hopefully gaining some knowledge. Don't do it solely to boost your resume because it won't help your chances (besides not giving you a huge gap that some schools could look down upon).

Re: Jobs during year off

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 4:11 pm
by laqueredup
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Re: Jobs during year off

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 4:12 pm
by waldorf
laqueredup wrote:
brinicolec wrote:In hindsight, I should've been a stripper for this time off. Surprisingly lucrative career, great full body workout. Anyway, to answer your questions: I'm not really sure how much a law job is going to boost your app. I had that same thought prior to my gap year but ended up just being a bartender because it's a chill job and I make enough. But also, I don't think having a job as like... a paralegal or something... is going to be the thing on your resume that gives you an edge over someone with similar stats. I agree with the person above me, just. do. something. to avoid a gap on your resume. Preferably something enjoyable.
I think stripper would have been a more interesting resume bullet than paralegal.

I can just see it on the "Fun Facts" portion of Yale's Class Profile:
In our 2020 class we have:
48 Graduate Degrees
4 Rhodes Scholars, 2 Fulbright Research Fellows, and 4 Truman Scholars
8 Teach For America Corps Members
3 Veterans (1 Army, 1 Marine Corps, 1 Marine Corps and Navy)
1 Girl Scout Gold Award and 9 Eagle Scouts
Debate Coach at a Juvenile Correctional Facility
Soloist on Glee
Lead Guitarist in a Rock Band
and

An award winning stripper!
A woman that I know personally (who is now an excellent prosecutor and is extremely intelligent) had a very difficult time getting into the Illinois Bar because of her past as a stripper (came from a broken home, no parental support since she was like, 13, parents abused her - saw it as her only way to make enough money to go to college).

Re: Jobs during year off

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 4:21 pm
by laqueredup
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Re: Jobs during year off

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 4:23 pm
by waldorf
laqueredup wrote:
sjs12 wrote:
laqueredup wrote:
brinicolec wrote:In hindsight, I should've been a stripper for this time off. Surprisingly lucrative career, great full body workout. Anyway, to answer your questions: I'm not really sure how much a law job is going to boost your app. I had that same thought prior to my gap year but ended up just being a bartender because it's a chill job and I make enough. But also, I don't think having a job as like... a paralegal or something... is going to be the thing on your resume that gives you an edge over someone with similar stats. I agree with the person above me, just. do. something. to avoid a gap on your resume. Preferably something enjoyable.
I think stripper would have been a more interesting resume bullet than paralegal.

I can just see it on the "Fun Facts" portion of Yale's Class Profile:
In our 2020 class we have:
48 Graduate Degrees
4 Rhodes Scholars, 2 Fulbright Research Fellows, and 4 Truman Scholars
8 Teach For America Corps Members
3 Veterans (1 Army, 1 Marine Corps, 1 Marine Corps and Navy)
1 Girl Scout Gold Award and 9 Eagle Scouts
Debate Coach at a Juvenile Correctional Facility
Soloist on Glee
Lead Guitarist in a Rock Band
and

An award winning stripper!
A woman that I know personally (who is now an excellent prosecutor and is extremely intelligent) had a very difficult time getting into the Illinois Bar because of her past as a stripper (came from a broken home, no parental support since she was like, 13, parents abused her - saw it as her only way to make enough money to go to college).
Kind of messed up that the Bar cares about that since it is legal employment. I was more just pointing out that some schools seem to value unique applicants, and stripper to law school is probably much less common than paralegal- law school. While that person might have had some rough times in the past, they probably have a more interesting story, a very different perspective, and likely a more tested character.
Oh, absolutely. I totally understood your point - I was just sharing what I thought was kind of a sucky story.

Re: Jobs during year off

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 4:34 pm
by brinicolec
sjs12 wrote:
laqueredup wrote:
brinicolec wrote:In hindsight, I should've been a stripper for this time off. Surprisingly lucrative career, great full body workout. Anyway, to answer your questions: I'm not really sure how much a law job is going to boost your app. I had that same thought prior to my gap year but ended up just being a bartender because it's a chill job and I make enough. But also, I don't think having a job as like... a paralegal or something... is going to be the thing on your resume that gives you an edge over someone with similar stats. I agree with the person above me, just. do. something. to avoid a gap on your resume. Preferably something enjoyable.
I think stripper would have been a more interesting resume bullet than paralegal.

I can just see it on the "Fun Facts" portion of Yale's Class Profile:
In our 2020 class we have:
48 Graduate Degrees
4 Rhodes Scholars, 2 Fulbright Research Fellows, and 4 Truman Scholars
8 Teach For America Corps Members
3 Veterans (1 Army, 1 Marine Corps, 1 Marine Corps and Navy)
1 Girl Scout Gold Award and 9 Eagle Scouts
Debate Coach at a Juvenile Correctional Facility
Soloist on Glee
Lead Guitarist in a Rock Band
and

An award winning stripper!
A woman that I know personally (who is now an excellent prosecutor and is extremely intelligent) had a very difficult time getting into the Illinois Bar because of her past as a stripper (came from a broken home, no parental support since she was like, 13, parents abused her - saw it as her only way to make enough money to go to college).
That's crappy. Like, who cares? It's not like she did something illegal by poppin' it on the pole!