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I was considering this as my best option. Unfortunately the professor who taught the class is the least "human" of any professor I've ever had; he's literally like some savant-robot and as such I really doubt he'd have any empathy. And I don't really know anyone ... But I'll give it a try. God knows it's worth it. So upsetting.Helioze wrote:You could petition your school to get it off your transcript completely.
This strat works best if you know someone in the office/contact the professor who taught the class.
M.M. wrote:Bumping this ... because I'm a bit desperate honestly ... hope you guys don't mind ...
Yup, one F will cost you about a tenth of a grade point in overall GPA.In terms of sheer rankings it looks like this is going to drop me about 10 positions which is pretty irritating because otherwise I'd be a good candidate for T14 and I can't believe that such a mistake is going to have such profound repercussions.
Absent a petition to completely remove the F from your transcript, rock the LSAT. Get a score above a T14 median.Is there any way to rectify this?.... for T14...
Big Dog wrote:Yup, one F will cost you about a tenth of a grade point in overall GPA.In terms of sheer rankings it looks like this is going to drop me about 10 positions which is pretty irritating because otherwise I'd be a good candidate for T14 and I can't believe that such a mistake is going to have such profound repercussions.
Absent a petition to completely remove the F from your transcript, rock the LSAT. Get a score above a T14 median.Is there any way to rectify this?.... for T14...
1) lying for the purposes of a medical withdrawal without having a legitimate medical reason is not a "white lie"M.M. wrote:twenty wrote:Medical withdrawals sometimes work. Schools are getting more and more antagonistic about that, though. :/
It's been a couple years since I dropped the class... and I didn't leave it for medical reasons. Think there's any chance due to those two factors? E.g. I'd be lying and doing it years late lol ... I wouldn't consider it immoral because I'd classify it as a "white lie" right now anyway, but I feel like it wouldn't work (if I'm guessing right at what a medical wirthdrawal is)
That's neat that you've come up with this little trick to make yourself feel alright about egregiously unethical behavior.M.M. wrote:twenty wrote:Medical withdrawals sometimes work. Schools are getting more and more antagonistic about that, though. :/
It's been a couple years since I dropped the class... and I didn't leave it for medical reasons. Think there's any chance due to those two factors? E.g. I'd be lying and doing it years late lol ... I wouldn't consider it immoral because I'd classify it as a "white lie" right now anyway, but I feel like it wouldn't work (if I'm guessing right at what a medical wirthdrawal is)
..No problem, I thought, because my university has a policy wherein if you retake a class
In rare cases, an addendum explaining a bad grade might help a little. But considering the OP's attitude and perspective regarding this particular situation, I think that an addendum here is a poor idea.acr wrote:Unfortunately, there is no way around this. It sucks, I know, but the schools only care about your cumulative GPA and every single grade you've ever received must be reported in this.
A concise addendum that doesn't make excuses but explains the F might help your chances.
.A. Nony Mouse wrote:But you didn't finish the class and you didn't get a B. And now you have to live with that. Doesn't matter how ridiculous LSAC's policy is. You know the policy and getting around it would be lying no matter whether LSAC's policy makes sense. You're in the same position as a gazillion other people who've had to suck it up and deal with the consequences of bad grades, for whatever reason. You need to get over it.
I'm with you dude. I misbubbled the last seven answers of an LSAT section, thus knocking me down to a 168 and out of T14 consideration. I totally knew the answers; it was just a stupid bubbling mistake that had nothing to do with my actual ability. So I found a way around the problem by paying an LSAT employee $10,000 to change my score to a 175. It's not immoral because the reason for my low score (misbubbling) was arbitrary and not reflective of my actual ability. My updated score better measured my merit and was thus more valid.M.M. wrote:I've admitted that it's lying, I'm just saying it isn't immoral much less "egregious." Just because a system fails a large group of people and one person finds a way around that failure, making a measure of their merit more valid than it would've been if they accepted the failing of the system doesn't mean it's immoral.A. Nony Mouse wrote:But you didn't finish the class and you didn't get a B. And now you have to live with that. Doesn't matter how ridiculous LSAC's policy is. You know the policy and getting around it would be lying no matter whether LSAC's policy makes sense. You're in the same position as a gazillion other people who've had to suck it up and deal with the consequences of bad grades, for whatever reason. You need to get over it.
Not commenting on whether or not you would have considered doing this if you had thought it would be successful. Your reasoning in defending that action is problematic though. You have to be able to see how this is a pretty black/white ethical situation. Lying is bad m'kay?M.M. wrote:I've admitted that it's lying, I'm just saying it isn't immoral much less "egregious." Just because a system fails a large group of people and one person finds a way around that failure, making a measure of their merit more valid than it would've been if they accepted the failing of the system doesn't mean it's immoral. Though I feel like I should add the disclaimer that I never planned on doing it anyway, since that's how some are acting. And lastly, I really do find the general nonchalant attitude toward dropping ~10 spots in the rankings over something so stupid to be incredibly inconsistent with TLS' general "T14 or bust" attitude. "Oh you just lost the possibility of getting into the T14 because of something that can only be spuriously linked to your actual merit as an academic and potential law student, but shit happens, just get right over it" - yeah, right. Anyway if anyone wants to reply that isn't discussing about something I never intended to do feel free, otherwise this is my last post on the subject.
You realize LSAC claims they'll change your LSAT score via hand grading for a small fee if it was obvious that you misbubbled answers, right?rpupkin wrote:I'm with you dude. I misbubbled the last seven answers of an LSAT section, thus knocking me down to a 168 and out of T14 consideration. I totally knew the answers; it was just a stupid bubbling mistake that had nothing to do with my actual ability. So I found a way around the problem by paying an LSAT employee $10,000 to change my score to a 175. It's not immoral because the reason for my low score (misbubbling) was arbitrary and not reflective of my actual ability. My updated score better measured my merit and was thus more valid.M.M. wrote:I've admitted that it's lying, I'm just saying it isn't immoral much less "egregious." Just because a system fails a large group of people and one person finds a way around that failure, making a measure of their merit more valid than it would've been if they accepted the failing of the system doesn't mean it's immoral.A. Nony Mouse wrote:But you didn't finish the class and you didn't get a B. And now you have to live with that. Doesn't matter how ridiculous LSAC's policy is. You know the policy and getting around it would be lying no matter whether LSAC's policy makes sense. You're in the same position as a gazillion other people who've had to suck it up and deal with the consequences of bad grades, for whatever reason. You need to get over it.
Eventually, you will grow to learn that when you write rules, you have to draw the line somewhere. Yes, it sucks to be on the wrong side of the line, but so are hundreds of other applicants. (Think of all those high schoolers that get roped into dual enrollment courses and then get senior-itis.)I really do find the general nonchalant attitude toward dropping ~10 spots in the rankings over something so stupid to be incredibly inconsistent with TLS' general "T14 or bust" attitude. "Oh you just lost the possibility of getting into the T14 because of something that can only be spuriously linked to your actual merit as an academic and potential law student,